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What would need to happen for you to consider 2017 a successful season?

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1 minute ago, rock8591 said:

 

Below 20 a season is a realistic as trading a compensatory 7th rounder in the year 2050 for JJ Watt, who we then sign to $5.15 per hour minimum wage.

 

I don't think you're aware of sacks per season allowed by offensive lines in this league.

 

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/qb-sacked-per-game

 

The lowest is an average of 1.2 sacks per game, which is 19 per season. (rounding numbers appropriately)

 

The highest is 4.1 per game, or 66 a season.

 

The median is 2.2 per game, or 35 a season.

I understand it's not easy to accomplish. Especially with the lack of practice time for O lineman and the freaks of nature coming off the edge these days. Plus teams are throwing it more than ever. But Peyton & Ben (missed game or two to injury maybe) have gotten below 20 in these past few years. Carr did it last year. Eli was around that mark. 

 

I think you need a good line and a great scheme to consistently flirt with getting below 20 but it can be accomplished.  But it I see what you're saying. 25 isn't a bad number at all in today's NFL.  So I stand corrected. I'll settle for 25 sacks allowed. That will still probably be the fewest Luck has taken in a season. And compared to 41, it is a drastic improvement. But we should be shooting for above average. 

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12 hours ago, Superman said:

 

I'm "content with mediocrity," haven't you heard?

 

 

"Mediocrities everywhere, I absolve you!"  

 

Couldn't resist. Anyway, for the Colts to have a successful season: no major injuries and a winning record. Getting the AFC South division is icing on the cake. 

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Progress in every aspect of the team from last year.

offense, defense, lines, lbers, secondary and special 

teams.....and Luck making better decisions.

 

I'm not asking for much just progress over last year.

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-Improve slow starts on offense.

-Defensive improvement in all areas.

-Division win and atleast one playoff game win.

-Andrew to take another step forward (cutting down on bone-headed turnovers for instance).

 

I'd also like to see the Colts not let teams come back into games if they happen to get up early. This seemed like more of a product of having so many young players last season but it still cannot happen as much as it did.

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• Healthy Luck playing 16 games

• Significant strides with the offensive line

• An improved, faster defense that doesn't just get gashed game after game by mediocre offenses

 

Easier said than done, but if those 3 things happen, which is very likely IMO, I expect us to win no less than 10 games and make the playoffs.

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First a major reduction in the number of injuries we seem to experience every year.  If it happens again we need a write in campaign to replace the field IMO.  Hopefully they do it this summer.  That would really make me happy.  In addition a solid OL, finally, and a top 10-15 defense.  If that happens than I think we win the division and anything after that is icing on the cake. 

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11-5 or better regular season record c/w winning the division, along with a first round playoff victory.  Accomplish that and I would say the Colts had a successful bounce-back season.

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16 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

Thought this would be an interesting thread...

 

How would you consider 2017 a success? AFC South champs? A few playoff wins? Super bowl or bust(I'm not but I know some people are like that)?

 

For me, I'd say AFC South champs, with a few playoff wins would be a successful year for Pagano/Ballard. Anything short of that, would be a failure. JMO.

 

 

I'm not sure what Irsay will use as the litmus for his decision, but we as fans should be able to spot significant improvement from the team's performance on the field.  I have a feeling that this coming season will be better than the last two.

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21 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

Thought this would be an interesting thread...

 

How would you consider 2017 a success? AFC South champs? A few playoff wins? Super bowl or bust(I'm not but I know some people are like that)?

 

For me, I'd say AFC South champs, with a few playoff wins would be a successful year for Pagano/Ballard. Anything short of that, would be a failure. JMO.

 

 

 

Making the playoffs.  Would really love to be on top of the AFC South again.  

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6 hours ago, dodsworth said:

Progress in every aspect of the team from last year.

offense, defense, lines, lbers, secondary and special 

teams.....and Luck making better decisions.

 

I'm not asking for much just progress over last year.

 

 Yes, i want to feel good that we are Actually Building something.
 I like our D prospects.
 O-Line is destined for mediocrity again with current players.

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Getting consistent performances from the team as a whole.  The team has been very Jekyll and Hyde-ish under Chuck.

 

offensive philosophy that doesn't stress out the offensive line and protects Luck.  A man can dream.

 

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10-6 minimum, which should also make the playoffs.

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Top 10 in rushing D, better play from Oline, win AFC South

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Not to repeat the stupidest play in the history of football.

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On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 7:16 PM, RockThatBlue said:

Thought this would be an interesting thread...

 

How would you consider 2017 a success? AFC South champs? A few playoff wins? Super bowl or bust(I'm not but I know some people are like that)?

 

For me, I'd say AFC South champs, with a few playoff wins would be a successful year for Pagano/Ballard. Anything short of that, would be a failure. JMO.

 

 

To consider this upcoming season a success AFC South champs and back to the playoffs must happen for me to consider this season a success.

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On 4/19/2017 at 10:18 PM, GoColtsWin said:

Prying the South from the hearts of all the Texans fan base(Too dark?), and knocking the Pats out of the playoffs would be a great start!! :)

Win the first of multiple SBs. If that doesn't happen, knocking the Pats out of contention would be sweet. If someone else knocks them out, that would be great too!

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On 4/19/2017 at 10:16 PM, Smoke317 said:

I think you need a good line and a great scheme to consistently flirt with getting below 20 but it can be accomplished.

It can be accomplished. I see the existing O-line capable, but I have no confidence in the scheme - yet - so it probably won't be accomplished. We can't ignore the elephant in the room.

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9 hours ago, coltsfeva said:

Win the first of multiple SBs. If that doesn't happen, knocking the Pats out of contention would be sweet. If someone else knocks them out, that would be great too!

I'm on board with this also! :)

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For 2017 to be a success..... I'd like to see Luck have as much time in the pocket as Brady seems to have most times. And sacks. Lots and LOTS of sacks from our guys.

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1 hour ago, CrazyHorse said:

For 2017 to be a success..... I'd like to see Luck have as much time in the pocket as Brady seems to have most times. And sacks. Lots and LOTS of sacks from our guys.

 

Our offense needs to fall in love with the quick hitter like Brady's offense. Brady is one of the fastest from snap to throw. Luck is one of the slowest.

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On 4/19/2017 at 8:16 PM, WarGhost21 said:

I'm going to leave out team records and winning the division because it's still pre-draft and anything could happen. I'm going much more complex, though, saying that we need to get at least 40 sacks while our offensive line lets up less than 25. We need to get at least 25 takeaways from our defense (INT and FR combined), and also allowing under 100 rushing yards per game. Our offense needs to let up less than 15 turnovers and rush for 120 ypg. Oh, and finally, we need to keep Luck healthy.

 

I like that, but we could accomplish all that, and still be 4-12.  We have to at least win the division, even if 7-9 wins it.

 

On 4/19/2017 at 8:38 PM, Dingus McGirt said:

Escaping training camp with all expected starters intact...

 

Do you know how to keep children from trying to drink at the bar?  You raise it.  Because they're short.

 

We need to make it to the Divisional Round.  Be one of the top 8 teams in the league.  Be RELEVANT.

 

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- Winning record.

 

- Compete occasionally with playoff teams and teams outside of the AFC South.

 

- Inch closer to average on defense, the O-line and in the running game.

 

It's year 6 of Luck, yes, but it's year one of trying to clean up the Chernobyl level disaster left by Grigson.  It will likely take a new coach to finish the job.

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AFCCG would be a great success. A playoff win would be a start at least for the Ballard era.

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I, more than anything, just want to see some consistency. Since the Luck era we seem to never be able to string together major wins in clear fashion. One week we blow out a team, the next week we tank. I want this team to be more well-rounded!

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Making the playoffs by winning the AFC South. 

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For me personally? Winning the lottery or getting a big fat promotion.....for the team, well there are many ways to explain success, in short success as it relates to the Colts for me, would be growing a defensive spine. If they do that, they can go anywhere.......

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Win a Playoff game

 

We do that then it was a successful season.

 

Anything short of a win in the "Final" season is equivalent to & mired in the mediocre middle of the pack teams picking Draft picks in the teens and early twentys.

 

Let's prove we're back on track to reaching a Conference Title game sometime before the end of this decade.

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On 4/21/2017 at 7:44 PM, Lucky Colts Fan said:

 

I like that, but we could accomplish all that, and still be 4-12.  We have to at least win the division, even if 7-9 wins it.

 

 

Do you know how to keep children from trying to drink at the bar?  You raise it.  Because they're short.

 

We need to make it to the Divisional Round.  Be one of the top 8 teams in the league.  Be RELEVANT.

 

So...training camp injuries aren't relevant.  Interesting.

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On 21/04/2017 at 1:12 PM, needanoline63 said:

Finish in the top half of the league in defense

This, plus top 5 Offense. (Points, not yards).

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-Winning the division again would be a huge step in the right direction regardless of the playoffs.

 

-Luck staying injury free for an entire year would also be a huge step in the right direction.

 

-Also winning week 1 against a team again we should beat (like many week 1's) would also go a long ways to setting the tone for the year.

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10 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said:

So...training camp injuries aren't relevant.  Interesting.

 

I said the team needs to be relevant for a successful season.  I didn't say TC injuries aren't relevant.  Making it out of TC with our starters healthy would be a huge success, but that's the beginning of the season.  Not the whole season.

 

:shake:

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1. Lucks shoulder is normal.

2. A much improved defense with a good pass rush.

3. An improved secondary. 

Since the Texans are apparently going with Savage at QB despite their defense I see a runoff between the Colts and the Titans for the #1 spot. Curious to see how well Mariota's leg has healed and how his mobility is affected.

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Improved play on both offense and defense, win the AFC South and win at least the home playoff game

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-Play four quarters of football each game. 

-Running game improves due to O-line blocking improvement.

-Andrew isn't running for his life and throws picks because of having to force the ball.

-Defense doesn't make QB's like Osweiler look like Joe Montana.  Pass rush developes and becomes a threat.  CB's coverage improves. 

-Run D limits big run plays.  

 

Colts take the AFC South and win at least one playoff game.

Colts beat Pittsburgh and (been a while) and Seattle.   Record should be 11-5.  

 

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On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 6:16 PM, RockThatBlue said:

Thought this would be an interesting thread...

 

How would you consider 2017 a success? AFC South champs? A few playoff wins? Super bowl or bust(I'm not but I know some people are like that)?

 

For me, I'd say AFC South champs, with a few playoff wins would be a successful year for Pagano/Ballard. Anything short of that, would be a failure. JMO.

 

 

To win the AFC South

beyond that there's a lot of 'Luck' involved

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