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Carson Wentz came out, in primetime, while everyone was watching, and balled out!! He's finally settling in, getting healthy, and the offense is vibing. I think Carson proved tonight that he can be that guy to any Colts fan that was still on the edge about him. It only gets better from here on out. Once we get our oline whole, TY healthy, and even more chemistry this is going to be a very dangerous offense. Idk about y'all but I can't wait to see the growth.

His 9 INTs are the most of any linebacker since he entered the league. He has forced double digit fumbles in his career. He has forced five fumbles in the last four games. He’s a playmaker. That’s why.

Or they do and everyone here is just flying off the handle 2 games into the season......

… I believe the Colts will be 6-4. I think we will win our next five games. Houston San Fran Tennessee NYJ Jags I believe we win them all. You’re free to disagree.

How about? LT (draft or FA) - Q - Kelly - CR - Smith

I tried calling his cell and it just went straight to voicemail.

It's a fair point but I don't think to many of the complaints come down to Paye and Dayo. It's the lack of delayed gratification from Campbell, Banogo, Okereke, Willis, Stewart, Turay, Lewis, etc, etc. It's the players that we were told to be patient in but who don't seem to be getting any better or in some cases actually regressing that is causing the issue. We're no longer talking about a small sample size with these guys any more, to an extent they are what they are. Add into this some possible regression from our established players (I'm thinking Kelly and Doyle mainly) plus perpetual injuries to others and I'd say that the 2021 picks were the least of our concerns.

He has only been responsible for 2% of the pressures he has faced this season, which is #1 among all 34 qualifying QBs. Per PFF. He’s not running into pressure, he’s not holding the ball too long, etc. It’s the protection - or lack thereof. And I say protection because the OL, TEs, RBs, and coaching staff all have some blame here.

Pretty encouraging even at 2-4, seeing the Colts are tied for 3rd in the league with a turnover ratio of +7 with the Cowboys. Wentz, is protecting the ball well and is now rated in the top 10, and has 102 RTG.

Rivers : Passing yards: 984 Touchdowns : 4 Interceptions : 3 Completion percentage : 72.82 Wentz : Passing yards :920 Touchdowns : 5 Interceptions: 1 Completion percentage : 63.8 It took rivers 6 weeks to really start clicking after the browns game he had more picks than touchdowns . the bengals game is when the offense starting to gel ,and got hot for the rest of the year . If it took a hall of fame QB 6 weeks to get going on a new team we should be more patient with wentz . Wentz had no training camp and has been injured all 4 games so far , once he heals up the offense will be much better .

This isn’t blind faith either. Injuries have decimated the team early, but the team is fairly deep. Players will get healthy. Then other teams we play will have injuries, that’s the nature of the game. I don’t think they’re as deep. If the Titans lose Henry or Tannyhill, they’re done. I think we could survive losing Wentz or Taylor. I’m not saying we’ll win the division or make the playoffs. But with a little luck, it could happen. Either way, try to enjoy having football back.

Would Philadelphia trade us back our conditional pick we gave them for Wentz?

TY had Houston circled on his calendar lol

Ballard be like

As most of you know, the week after the draft, Ballard invites the media to watch video of the team's draft picks. He makes comments on the record, and some off the record so the media can use it on deep background and give context to needed issues. This year, Ballard spoke about what he calls..... delaying gratification. So he bypassed other players with pick 54 that might've helped us right now to take Dayo. Ballard and the staff believes Dayo to be a first round talent. And they're willing to wait a year to reap the reward. Delayed gratification. Similar to Paye. He'll likely be good this year. But he's going to get better over time. After the draft, Ballard compared Paye with Freeney. But clearly, it's going to take some time.l I'm going to link a story where Ballard talks about delaying gratification, but the quote I wanted is behind a pay walll on the Indy Star and The Athletic. He said the lesson was taught to him by Andy Reid when Ballard was with KC. Reid talked about drafting Donovan McNabb at Philly. And he knew it would be a long tough year. I think they went 3-13 or 4-12. But they went to the playoffs 9 of the next 11 years. Delayed gratification. I want to be clear, I am not -- repeat, NOT -- saying that Ballard planned to tank the season. Not at all. He knows how precious every season is. I'm only saying that as many things have gone badly, Ballard knew he wasn't bringing in a lot in this draft that would help this year. And Ballard keeps Irsay completely in the loop. While I'm sure everyone is disappointed, this front office has a plan for this year, but also for the longer term. That's where guys like Paye and Dayo and Fisher fit in. We could've signed Leno and he'd be doing fine for us at LT. But Fisher is the much better player at the most important spot on the line. Again, delayed gratification. So, if we end up missing the playoffs going 9-8 or whatever it turns out to be, the goal is to be much better next year. A week or two ago, poster @DougDew asked a fair question.... Where was the improvement this year supposed to come from? I'd like to answer that. The improvement is supposed to come from 2020 and 2019 classes. Even the 18 class. Pittman and Taylor and Blackmon. Rock, Banogu, Campbell, Okreke and Willis. Turay and Lewis too. Those young guys are supposed to get better. Many need more opportunity. So far, after 3 weeks, a mixed bag, and yes, that may be somewhat generous. But the season is long and you have to give these kids the season to know what we have and what we don't. Big decisions made in 3 weeks are typically bad ones. Here's the article about Ballard if you're interested. The part I've talked about is about halfway down the story. Not hard to find. https://www.heraldbulletin.com/sports/colts-believe-pass-rush-duo-will-be-worth-wait/article_49b4be04-b506-11eb-aeb7-e7aa561c2107.html Your comments are welcome...

Hell yes he should. As a black man, I find it stupid he’s being judged on one “joke” based on race. I’m not offended by it one way or the other. I won’t go further as it’ll get me on a soap box that will get me banned from this forum! “Marlons got it , we’re going to the Super Bowl!!

IMO, If Dayo doesn't turn out to be a quality starter by early next year, this draft is/was a bust. We're still waiting on the delayed gratification from all the other DEs we picked the last 4 years lol. Will we ever get gratification from them lol... I don't see our 4R amounting to much. Our 5R is gone and on the Packers PS. 6R was a head scratcher. Not even counting Strachan or Fries in the equation as both were pure shots in the dark in the 7th. Delayed gratification coach speak is great, but we overlooked some things that would have helped us a lot this year. And that won't change even if Dayo is a world beater. Remind me next year about all the pleasure we had watching Wentz get beat to hell this month, or our DBs getting burnt like toast. But hey, embrace the coach speak if you want.

I kinda had a feeling 0-5 was possible, under slightly better circumstances. Wentz has to get healthy and play better for this thing to ever get going in a different direction. Other than that, don't look at the schedule because you're not going to see lot's of clear W's on that list. It's a banged up team, it's also got an identity crisis and there's lot's of young guys who simply aren't living up to their draft status. Ballard has some serious issues on his hands as it stands right now.

His 80 yds receiving today, allowed him to pass Rob Moore to be 57th all time in receiving yards. Barring injury, I think TY gets to 10,000 this season. Luv me some TY

This is what Ballard has been saying since the start is main priority and cornerstone to what his teams should be built around. This is horrendous. And it cannot and should not be waved away with "Luck retired 2 weeks before the season 2 years ago, give it time". We are 5 years into Ballard's tenure and this has been the focus of Ballard and the FO. He has spent tons of resources on it. And we are dead last.

Dirt. You rub some dirt on it.

As always, please wait till the game gets done Give us your 5-10 post game thoughts. More if you have them. Bullets are free, and are your friend. Thank you Frank see what happens when you run JT more than 10 times see what happens when you have variety in the RZ see what happens when you make Mo a primary read Great clean game by Wentz even though he was pressured a lot. 2 TDs, no turnovers. Not flashy yards, but highly efficient and no mistakes. Very good at spreading the ball around. 10 different pass catchers. Hoping the chemistry between he and Mo continue Pass catchers are coming into their own Not perfect games by everyone, but great overall and good individual catch %s Pittman 6/8 again leads the way with 50+ and his chemistry looked great. Mo is a man sized weapon. Please keep him in the game plan. Write it down coaches.. 2 TDs vs some elite DBs Pascal solid 4/5. Campbell 2/2. And a couple key catches by Doyle and Dulin DL looked better. Turay (2 sacks), Grover, and Lewis all had some very nice moments. AQM and Defo too quiet DBs still looked suspect even vs a bad QB performance

Wentz gives the Colts the best chance to win, that’s why he started.

As always, if you don't like PFF... just don't click.. Keeping it simple Rounding up Under 50 - Red Over 70 - Blue Format Player - comments Snap count % (per game) PFF grades (year to date, not per game) Top 6 this week Cason Wentz - 94.1 Darius Leonard - 91.2 TY Hilton 85.7 DeForest Buckner - 82.3 Matt Pryor - 78.3 Khari Willis - 75.2 QB Note - C Wentz QB - He's approaching his career best 84.9 (2017) 100%/93%/100%/100%/100%/100%/ 60.1/67.8/68.5/72.6/73.8/ 80.6 #1 INT%, #7 ANY/A, #12 passer rating, #9 AVG J Eason QB - waived/cut NA/7%/NA/NA/NA/NA/ NA/29.6/NA/NA/NA/NA/ RB Note - J Taylor RB - 55/45%/48%/51%/52%/65%/ 60.3/60.5/64.1/71.2/73.8/ 75.1 #5 total yards, #7 AVG, #2 first downs N Hines RB - 45%/37%/56%/31%/38%/23%/ 69.6/60.9/67.9/64.2/64.7/ 62.5 M Mack RB - NA/19%/NA/31%/14%/19%/ NA/53.8/NA/57.9/60.8/ 58.4 TE Note - J Doyle TE - 59%/70%/57%/30%/72%/65%/ 64.7/71.2/68.1/72.1/75.1/ 72.2 M Alie-Cox TE - 51%/40%/46%/69%/45%/50%/ 50.0/51.2/56.1/61.4/65.2/ 64.9 K Granson TE - 9%/9%/20%/42%/12%/8%/ NA/NA/NA/49.9/51.6/ 51.3 WR Note M Pittman WR - still strong 97%/90%/93%/86%/88%/96%/ 60.8/68.8/72.7/69.7/71.2/ 71.3 Z Pascal WR - 91%/91%/89%/82%/86%/85%/ 64.9/62.0/57.7/57.4/58.5/ 57.2 P Campbell WR - 61%/NA/80%/44%/55%/10%/ 62.6/NA/56.9/53.8/60.1/ 63.1 M Strachan WR - 24%/51%/NA/7%/3%/NA/ 75.2/62.3/NA/61.9/61.8/NA/ A Dulin WR - not a huge impact, but doing well 8%/39%/11%/17%/33%/27%/ NA/59.5/58.6/64.4/65.9/ 64.4 D Harris WR NA/3%/NA/NA/NA/NA/ NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/ T Hilton - great start coming back. NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/50%/ NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/ 85.7 OL Note - while there still some struggles in pass pro, the run blocking has been on point lately. Taylor has the 4th best yards-before-contact of all RBs 3.7y/a (last year was 3.0). E Fisher LT - better game, still need more NA/73%/100%/100%/100%/100%/ NA/ 62.0 (1)/54.1 (3)/41.8 (3)/46.5 (4)/ 52.3 (4) B Smith RT - 100%/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/ 60.8 (1)/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/ J Davenport T - 100%/100%/72%/58%/NA/NA/ 59.8 (2)/43.0 (2)/47.4 (2)/47.2 (3)/NA/NA/ M Glowinski G - 100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/ 50.7/45.3/43.4 (1)/47.6 (1)/57.7 (1)/ 58.0 (1) Q Nelson G - 100%/100%/21%/NA/NA/NA/ 72.7/63.9/69.3/NA/NA/NA/ R Kelly C - 100%/100%/100%/96%/99%/100%/ 67.9/68.8 (1)/68.2 (1)/55.2 (2)/52.8 (2)/ 53.8 (2) M Pryor OT - holy cow playing well NA/27%/28%/42%/100%/100%/ NA/62.3/66.5/64.0/71.2/ 76.3 C Reed OG - still solid NA/NA/79%/100%/100%/100%/ NA/NA/68.6/58.7/67.7/ 65.4 D Pinter G/C - NA/NA/NA/14%/3%/2%/ NA/NA/NA/77.0/76.0/ 75.7 iDL Note - D Buckner DT - still need more for the pay. Hoping he gets help with Paye coming back. 87%/88%/76%/85%/82%/71%/ 59.6/71.3/66.9(1)/73.5 (1)/68.8 (1)/ 73.7 (2) G Stewart NT - 81%/75%/69%/50%/67%/57%/ 62.9/66.9/65.8/69.9 (1)/66.3 (1)/ 67.4 (1) T Stallworth DT - getting better 13%/27%/NA/19%/15%/37%/ 44.2/39.4/NA/43.5/51.4/ 61.3 C Williams - NA/NA/18%/6%/14%/NA/ NA/NA/55.5/55.3/50.4/NA/ A Woods - NA/NA/18%/NA/NA/NA/ NA/NA/54.3/NA/NA/NA/ K Davis - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/8%/ NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/ 56.4 DE Note - K Paye DE - good game coming back 76%/69%/10%/NA/NA/59%/ 77.7/75.1/74.2/NA/NA/ 73.1 A Muhammad DE - 70%/61%/78%/83%/82%/65%/ 68.0 (1) /67.7 (2)/66.7 (2)/68.1 (2)/65.0 (3)/ 64.3 (3) T Lewis DE - 54%/54%/78%/83%/81%/67%/ 66.7/69.7/79.5/76.4/76.2 (2)/ 72.9 (2) B Banogu DE - 11%/7%/19%/12%/16%/9%/ 54.1/59.5/60.2/61.4/58.8/ 59.8 K Turay DE - NA/19%/34%/46%/42%/NA/ NA/44.4/49.5/62.9 (2)/55.3 (2)/NA/ I Rochell - another really strong game with increased snaps. More please NA/NA/NA/17%/NA/27%/ NA/NA/NA/90.8/NA/ 89.5 LB Note - B Okereke LB - another decent game against a bad team. Let's hope this carries over to SF. 100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/ 58.3/57.4/53.1/65.5/55.8/ 60.1 Leads the team in missed tackles (7, up one from last week), and is allowing a 118 passer rating as LB D Leonard LB - very nice game against a bad team. Need these type of games vs good teams. 100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/89%/ 71.3/69.5/70.1/72.2/68.1/ 77.3 Good game, but still co-leads in TDs allowed (3). Z Franklin LB 24%/5%/31%/15%/14%/16%/ 52.9/58.9/50.3/57.4/58.9/ 60.2 EJ Speed - very nice game in limited snaps NA/NA/9%/NA/NA/11%/ NA/NA/64.6/NA/NA/ 79.6 CB Note - R Ya-Sin CB - good game coming back from injury, then injured again lol... 100%/98%/49%/NA/NA/55%/ 63.7/62.5/73.2/NA/NA/ 69.3 K Moore CB - 96%/97%/99%/100%/100%/100%/ 56.1/42.9/48.7/54.7/55.5/ 54.3 T Carrie CB - 69%/69%/NA/NA/NA/NA/ 60.6/58.8/NA/NA/NA/NA/ I Rodgers CB - better game in much more limited snaps. 11%/31%/22%/85%/82%/29%/ 46.7/33.9/43.2/49.7/52.4/ 63.8 Rhodes - NA/NA/91%/98%/56%/97%/ NA/NA/41.2/47.2/53.9/ 55.8 B Keyes - NA/NA/NA/2%/7%/3%/ NA/NA/NA/60.0/25.9/ 26.2 A Chesley - NA/NA/NA/NA/41%/NA/ NA/NA/NA/NA/62.1/NA/ Safety Note - K Willis SS - good game, still need more. Can get out of the red vs SF. 100%/100%/68%/NA/26%/97%/ 40.6/47.0/41.1/NA/NA/37.5/ 49.0 Co leader in TDs allowed (3) J Blackmon FS - 100%/100%/97%/100%/96%/100%/ 53.4/64.6/64.4/60.9/57.8/ 60.7 Team worst starter passer rating allowed at 134 (ouch) A Sendejo - . NA/NA/32%/100%/64%/NA/ NA/NA/69.3/61.9/59.7/NA/ G Odum - NA/NA/3%/NA/14%/3%/ NA/NA/60.0/ NA/50.5/ 51.9

Very unfortunate for Campbell but it's pretty evident the guy is made of glass. Ballard needs to add another young playmaker at WR in the offseason and let Parris go.

I've been mostly silent these first three weeks. I'm sure my critics have enjoyed that immensely! You're welcome! But I've watched all three games and I'd like to make some observations and share some thoughts. I've read less here these last weeks, so if what I write has already been written by someone else, I give you my word, I'm 100 percent unaware of it. My thoughts are my own, for better or worse. Here we go: I think the explanation for why we look so Gawd Awful is explained this way.... I believe we all witnessed the least consequential, least productive training camp in my more than 50 years of NFL fandom. I think we accomplished close to nothing. Maybe that Hot Rod has a stronger better leg, but otherwise, not much else. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. Ask yourself this.... when did our first string offense play together during camp? I'm talking the starting 11. Answer: I believe is never. Not once. Sure, we knew we wouldn't have Fisher for camp.... But we didn't know Wentz would break his foot and miss almost all of camp. We didn't know Q would break his foot and miss most of camp. We didn't know Kelly would badly damage his elbow and miss most of camp. We didn't know Smith would hurt a foot at the end of camp when others were just getting healthy. We didn't know TYH would get hurt and miss so much time. Offense is all about timing and we were never, ever together to establish any type of timing and I think it looks that way in every game. We look like a team trying to figure things out in August. You know, August, training camp. And the vast majority of posters here know this..... of all the position groups in football, the one that needs the most time together by far, is the offensive line. No position group needs more reps than the OL. Remember how poor our OL was at the start of the 2020 season? No real training camp. Took a while to round into shape. But that year was nothing compared to the problems of this year. We look like we have no timing at all. Not with Wentz and the receivers. Not with the OL. Certainly not with the running game too. Even the defense has disappointed. Our top 3 players on that side of the ball have all under-performed. Buckner, Leonard and Moore have disappointed. Typically there's a good reason why, even if we don't know the details. I suspect Leonard is not close to 100 percent but is playing anyway. I don't have answers for Buck or KM. But something is going on. We're going to have to get better every week, every month. And yes, that includes Frank. Much better play calling is desperately needed. Personally, while I'm disappointed, I find all this really fascinating. How are we going to fix this? What will we do during the next 15 weeks? A reminder, we started 2018 1-4. We closed 9-2 to finish 10-6 and make the playoffs. I'm not predicting that here. I'm simply saying that with a 17 games schedule for the first time we have no idea how the season will play out. So, if we get back to playing hard and smart, I'd like to see what happens. Among the posters who I am not seeing post very much thus far is everyone's favorite, @Superman. So, as a tribute to him, I'm going to steal a favorite line of his..... as frustrating as this start is, try not to be a Prisoner of the Moment. Don't over react. There's a reason that for roughly the last 15-20 years ESPN runs segments after the weekend called..... "Over reaction Monday." Fans typically read way too much into way too little. Give this time. One last thought.... a reminder that Ballard meets with the media on the record every quarter. So, he's going to meet the press next week after the Miami game this weekend. I really look forward to hearing what he has to say. The media has turned on him, so the questions won't be quite so soft. CB knows this is coming. His answers could get interesting. Agree or disagree, your comments are always welcome.... NCF

Color me skeptical, especially in a sport where the average player lasts 2-3 years, players switch teams often and competitive windows open and close very fast. Not to mention they traded for a vet QB. If you want to sell me on delayed gratification after investing in a rookie QB, I am much more likely to buy that. Overall, it starts to sound akin to kicking the can down road when it comes to accountability. And in a results-driven industry, it also sounds like a great way to get left near the back. I am not one of those "every season is sacred" fans, but at five years in now, perhaps the current approach is flawed.

Lost the team? I don't think so. Lost these message boards? Yeah, mostly.

Just so I understand what I am reading. We have 3 DE that were drafted in the 2nd Round and none of the 3 are good enough to start? We have a QB drafted in the 3rd round and after 2 years he is not good enough to rely on to start and play the whole game. We do not have any backup linemen? We have a 2nd round WR Pick that is always unable to play? We had to cut our 1st round safety pick. What is going on?

He looked pretty good filling in for Nelson. Maybe when Nelson gets healthy he can take Glow spot on the OL.

The Ravens are NOT a good team this year. The Colts were up big for this reason. Whatever is being said by media regarding the Ravens, its smoke and absurd. The Ravens lost to a much improved Raiders team who only recently fell apart amidst the Gruden stuff. They beat a very mediocre KC team whose defense is worse than ours and who are not that good this year especially against the run and the Ravens running game outside of Lamar, is putrid. They needed a 66 yard fg to beat DETROIT, and they beat a terrible Denver team who was only once 3 and 0 by beating even worse teams than them. They should not have beaten us but they best us and everyone on here knows WE ARE TERRIBLE right now. Doesn't matter why. Doesn't matter if we shows signs of better stuff each week. WE ARE TERRIBLE right now. I'm only writing this thread because I saw some on here using stuff like Lamar is great, Ravens are really good, blah, blah, blah. Its hogwash. This Ravens team is not good and next week the Chargers will wax them. We lost because we are terrible. We are bottom tier. Thats it.

Been happily on board since day one. Glad he is getting the respect that many felt he didn't deserve.

It's comical that some people think we bench Wentz to save the pick. No, that's not how this works. Doing so would ruin our chances of swinging deals with other GM's in the future.

This is another loss on Frank Reich. If he just takes the extra point, when they go for two. They never go to OT in the first place. He just went for it to try to cancel out the missed XP and wound up compounding the mistake. Its never a good idea to turn your nose up at points just because you would like to have more points. Also, he takes the ball out of Wentz hands on the drive they got the FG blocked. They deserved that because they played for the FG. People say hes aggressive, no hes not. Hes wreckless and there is a difference. Also what was up with that double reverse flea flicker? We didnt need it. They couldnt atop us straight up. Baltimore hadnt stopped us all night. If he just stays aggressive I think they might get a TD there. Idk whats wrong with Blankenship but this is the kind of performance that can destroy a kickers career. I hope he can get it together. I feel bad for Carson Wentz. He was so good all night long and deserved this win. I am excited to see how he finishes the season.

Funny Ballard told me they weren’t interested in them due to delayed gratification.

basically to save 9.2 next year. from what i read, they tried to find a trade partner, but didn't work out. they're still on the hook for 7+M this year. I'd love to get him on the cheap.

One thing I cannot deny Dakich is - he gets some of the best guests on Indy radio and Greg Cosell is arguably my favorite NFL analyst. The interview starts at about 58 minute mark of the file: Here are some highlights on the Colts specifically: - one of the things through 3 games, I don't think they've ever gotten into a rhythm running the ball and last year Jonathan Taylor was the foundation of the Colts offensive game down the stretch - run game is a patience thing... you have to stay with it - On Wentz: "At one point [in the past] I thought Wentz is going to be phenomenal and it hasn't quite played out like that. I'm sure there are a lot of reasons I don't know about because I wasn't in the locker room and meeting rooms in Philly. Watching Wentz at this point - I think there are certain things that are problematic. He leaves some throws on the field. There are times he waits too long for routes to develop, other times he just doesn't turn the ball loose when the throws are there. The result is that he gets stuck in the pocket and he takes too many hits and sacks. I think he's gotta work through that. At his core, I'm not sure if he's a truly rhythic player, he might be more of a big play QB, but you can't sit in the pocket and wait for things, not in the NFL. " Wentz has been better this year than last 2 years in Philly so he might be on the right track. Wentz needs constant coaching with his mechanics because he has tendency to lose his mechanics, tendency to overstride, which leads to scattershot throws.

Look at the bright side! I don't think we'll lose Eberflus to any head coaching vacancies next off season!

It took me a minute but I found him.

First of all let's clear something up: Parris Campbell was not a bad selection. It is unfortunate that the man struggles to stay healthy. Why don't you go ahead and take a coin out of your pocket and flip it 50 times. There will be long strings of heads, and long strings of tails occasionally. (meaning it isn't always 50/50) ... Well why is that relevant? Events tend to happen in clusters, and it is not Ballards, nor Paris' fault that he has been injury prone. Secondly: How many QBs get picked in RDs 1-2 that end up contributing nothing? How many QBs have been drafted in the first round that never saw another contract? Got benched for someone else? You guys parading around beating on all of Ballards "bad picks". Was it really a bad pick? Or did it turn out how they might've predicted. You think they didn't account for the chance that Eason might not make it? Also we don't know what goes on with Eason when he isn't at the facility. Is he studying? Is he commited? Does he have pride issues? None of these things are know. So let's go ahead and stop pretending like we know what we are talking about. The highest paid people in the world can barely succeed at it. I get it though, the Colts forum here is full of hundresed of arm chair GMs that swear they know what the best deicison is. Most people can't decide what to eat for dinner, and you think you could have done better? Also, is anyone forgetting all the covid restrcitions that were placed on scouts and GMs when evaluating the last couple years prospects? Get real.

Also, if you don't think this is a topic worth discussing, please don't post in this thread.

Look I thought Houston’s quotes were relevant because we haven’t heard from a former team mate any real truth how they felt. I think it is good to finally hear some truth how a team mate actually felt:

Delayed gratification is a concept that's well known in cognitive, behavioral and neuro-sciences. It's not something Ballard or Reid have conjured up. It's closely related to impulse control. With humans it's interesting that children who have shown ability to control their impulses with a later reward awaiting them, have much better outcomes as adults... i.e. they make better decisions long-term in variety of contexts. It's interesting bringing this up in the context of constructing an NFL roster. I don't mind it as a concept but IMO it has severe limitations when applying it to NFL drafts. Do you know why? Because in its original form usually the reward in the moment is known and the increased reward in the future is known. In the NFL this is not really the case. Even if you draft a win-now player, to a significant degree you don't really know if he will be able to contribute right away. And if you draft a player with injury, who will be removed from playing for one year, this adds even more uncertainty. There are just way too many unknowns and premises I'm not willing to grant. In essence, I do NOT believe Ballard (or any GM) to be this much better in evaluating talent that he would have the required certainty to say Dayo one year in the future will be worth the wait and the lost year of value compared to any other player we could have drafted. Also, as others have said... even if you grant him using this concept... at some point the players we've drafted in the past few years, need to start panning out and providing that delayed gratification. It's funny... there are actual experiments with humans about delayed gratification and reliability of gratification and how much reliability of gratification predicts if the person will continue delaying gratification. Can you guess what happens when people are promised a future better reward in order to forego current reward and they don't receive that promised future reward? Well when given similar choices in the future they start picking the future bigger reward much less frequently because they distrust that they will even get the future reward. Does that seem like something that's happening right now with Colts fans and can you see why it's happening? They don't trust the future rewards right now, because Ballard has promised them similar rewards in the past and has largely not delivered. Okereke was supposed to be pro-bowler, Blackmon was supposed to be future all pro, etc... (those are Ballard's word).

If there was any game to hold Wentz out of, this was it.

Can anyone steer me towards the Wentz Updates discussion? I seem to be lost.