All Colts Head Coach Discussions (merge) The Indianapolis Colts Are Officially Eliminated From The 2017 Playoffs

[Luck 4 president]

9 hours ago, #12. said:

Third losing season since 1998.

After each losing season we bounced back with great additions. 1. Peyton 2. Luck and 3. ???? Hopefully the next great coach

[WoolMagnet]

A banner should be raised for this year.

it should read:

"2017 : we got thru it"

[HungarianColtsFan]

2 hours ago, WoolMagnet said:

A banner should be raised for this year.

it should read:

"2017 : we got thru it"

 

"2017: Rock bottom of AFCS"

[Chrisaaron1023]

Onto my second favorite team.. who's playing the Patriots?

 

I'm all in on the Vikings bandwagon, as of now, they have home-field advantage until the off-season.

 

Gotta cheer for a dark horse AFC team now.. Ravens anyone? 

 

Is it 2018 yet?

[Myles]

42 minutes ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:

 

Gotta cheer for a dark horse AFC team now.. Ravens anyone? 

 

 

Dark horse?   How about the Chargers. 

[coach kline]

15 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Pagano is or should be gone he is the worst coach in the league.

There's a long list of coaches that suck

[Chrisaaron1023]

1 hour ago, Myles said:

Dark horse?   How about the Chargers. 

Chargers are good. But i'm thinking they win the Division.

 

Literally no one is talking about the current 6th seed Ravens. Who we all know would love to go to Foxboro in Jan

[colt18]

1 hour ago, Myles said:

Dark horse?   How about the Chargers. 

You can't be a Colts fan and root for the Chargers. Darren Sproles and Antonio Cromartie shut that down years ago.

[Chrisaaron1023]

44 minutes ago, colt18 said:

You can't be a Colts fan and root for the Chargers. Darren Sproles and Antonio Cromartie shut that down years ago.

Scifres?

[krunk]

the end of this season can't get here fast enough.  i'm just looking for some kind of new rumor or something about somebody getting fired.  just need to hear about change somewhere.  that's about where I'm at right now with the whole thing.

[Myles]

1 hour ago, colt18 said:

You can't be a Colts fan and root for the Chargers. Darren Sproles and Antonio Cromartie shut that down years ago.

More than I can root for the Ravens.   Uhg. 

 

[Chrisaaron1023]

3 minutes ago, Myles said:

More than I can root for the Ravens.   Uhg. 

 

How come?? You no like Joseph?

[Myles]

2 minutes ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:

How come?? You no like Joseph?

It more stems from my hate of Art Modell.   I always root against the Ravens unless they are playing the Pats.  

 

[Corndog]

15 minutes ago, krunk said:

the end of this season can't get here fast enough.  i'm just looking for some kind of new rumor or something about somebody getting fired.  just need to hear about change somewhere.  that's about where I'm at right now with the whole thing.

Couldn't agree more, I'm ready for the offseason and change.  Haven't been less interested in a season for over 20 years as a fan.  

[PeterBowman]

I'm still rooting for the tea....I remember the 1-15 teams so this isn't too bad (still sucks don't get me wrong).

 

I'm just switching to draft mode....which I absolutely love.

[gacoop1]

Another mess you got me into Chuck! Bye Chuck and Co.

[Dingus McGirt]

Will be a Colts news-heavy early 2018, for sure:  1) Pagano transition. 2) Luck health and recovery. 3) 2018 - top five draft pick. 4) New OC/DC/STC and their staffs. 5) Free agency with massive cap room.

 

Onward and upward!

[chad72]

Gotta keep choppin'  

[dodsworth]

Enter all out tank mode and start Tolzien. Don't want to chance

squeaking out a couple meaningless wins the rest of the year,

Not that Brisset is doing much better here of late.

[Defjamz26]

1 hour ago, dodsworth said:

Enter all out tank mode and start Tolzien. Don't want to chance

squeaking out a couple meaningless wins the rest of the year,

Not that Brisset is doing much better here of late.

Well some people might prefer a few wins since they want us to trade down from number 5 anyways lol.

[jvan1973]

[Colts_Fan12]

49 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Well some people might prefer a few wins since they want us to trade down from number 5 anyways lol.

Yeah but they will wanna trade down even if we win more games lol 

[Nesjan3]

My question is, the Giants are cleaning house today...why cant we fire Pagano already?! I know Irsay and Ballard will likely wait till after the season but IMO it should be done sooner than later, more opportunity to start introducing candidates and not only letting all the possible candidates know "hey come to Indy vacancy open" but i think its better for the attitude and moral of the players to know that they have a GM and owner that are not afraid to take initiative and make changes and if they make the team next season they will be playing for a new head coach. Having Chuck coach out the season IMO is a stupid way to go about the situation.

[horseshoecrabs]

At this stage it's the proper thing to do for us.

 

[Jason_]

if only this had been brought up for discussion before now

[UKColt13]

It’s pretty evident we’re letting Pags see out the season. 

 

If we were going to fire him we would’ve done it already. And the players love him, so there’s that.

[horseshoecrabs]

8 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

My question is, the Giants are cleaning house today...why cant we fire Pagano already?! I know Irsay and Ballard will likely wait till after the season but IMO it should be done sooner than later, more opportunity to start introducing candidates and not only letting all the possible candidates know "hey come to Indy vacancy open" but i think its better for the attitude and moral of the players to know that they have a GM and owner that are not afraid to take initiative and make changes and if they make the team next season they will be playing for a new head coach. Having Chuck coach out the season IMO is a stupid way to go about the situation.

 

[a06cc]

I’m hearing a lot of things. From Pagano being fired to him staying another season. Who knows what’s going to happen at this point. Waiting on Jim Irsay. 

[horseshoecrabs]

No the Giants situation is different. We will do the proper protocol and wait to see what happens at he end of the season If the hand righting is on the wall everyone else in the nfl will know

 

[csmopar]

26 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

My question is, the Giants are cleaning house today...why cant we fire Pagano already?! I know Irsay and Ballard will likely wait till after the season but IMO it should be done sooner than later, more opportunity to start introducing candidates and not only letting all the possible candidates know "hey come to Indy vacancy open" but i think its better for the attitude and moral of the players to know that they have a GM and owner that are not afraid to take initiative and make changes and if they make the team next season they will be playing for a new head coach. Having Chuck coach out the season IMO is a stupid way to go about the situation.

They (Irsay) rode out both the Mora 3-13 and the Caldwell 2-14 seasons before firing the head coach.  Jim Irsay has never fired a head coach during the season

[ColtJ82]

What's the point at this stage? Pagano is the best man to maintain our draft position.

[Superman]

If they were going to fire Pagano, they would have done it after the first Jags loss, or during the bye week. At this point, it's pretty obvious that they won't be making any coaching change until the season is over. There was also a "report" a few weeks ago that Irsay wanted to let Pagano finish out the season, and that's something everyone should have expected, given Irsay's track record with firing/hiring coaches.

[Crunked]

Just now, ColtJ82 said:

What's the point at this stage? Pagano is the best man to maintain our draft position.

LOL and touche'

 

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, ColtJ82 said:

What's the point at this stage? Pagano is the best man to maintain our draft position.

My thoughts exactly. Though if there is one man that could screw it up, it would be Chuck Pagano 

[Shive]

Firing a coach early does nothing to help you better your pool of candidates. Almost all of those candidates are currently coaching on their teams and have no interest in the current vacancies (I don't think we could even talk to them at this point either).

 

The only thing a mid-season firing does is allow you to see what you have in-house, which is not an option most teams typically go with. It can also show a prospective hire a lack of patience, which can make some hesitant to even interview for a vacancy.

 

Pagano is finishing the season out. Accept it and move on.

[superrep1967]

46 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

My question is, the Giants are cleaning house today...why cant we fire Pagano already?! I know Irsay and Ballard will likely wait till after the season but IMO it should be done sooner than later, more opportunity to start introducing candidates and not only letting all the possible candidates know "hey come to Indy vacancy open" but i think its better for the attitude and moral of the players to know that they have a GM and owner that are not afraid to take initiative and make changes and if they make the team next season they will be playing for a new head coach. Having Chuck coach out the season IMO is a stupid way to go about the situation.

I couldn't agree more. 

[horseshoecrabs]

42 minutes ago, horseshoecrabs said:

 

it's the proper thing to do in our situation 

[Superman]

1 hour ago, Shive said:

Firing a coach early does nothing to help you better your pool of candidates. Almost all of those candidates are currently coaching on their teams and have no interest in the current vacancies (I don't think we could even talk to them at this point either).

 

The only thing a mid-season firing does is allow you to see what you have in-house, which is not an option most teams typically go with. It can also show a prospective hire a lack of patience, which can make some hesitant to even interview for a vacancy.

 

Pagano is finishing the season out. Accept it and move on.

 

Sometimes it's appropriate to let a coach go before the season ends. I would have no complaints if the Colts fired Pagano midseason, and I think any charges of impatience would be specious, at best. Pagano and his staff have been given plenty of rope, IMO. He was granted a stay two seasons ago, and hasn't done much with it. 

 

Also, now that college football season is over, there's a pool of candidates a team could engage with right now, if interested. I'm sure the Giants will talk to some of them over the next four weeks. 

[GoColts8818]

Because Irsay doesn’t want to do it now for whatever reason that’s all that really matters.

[richard pallo]

I think all the possible candidates already are thinking there will be a vacancy in Indy.  I think the status of Andrew Luck is going to be the determining factor in attracting top candidates.  Without Andrew we're just a small market team looking for a coach with a team starting entirely over.  With a healthy Andrew we're a team with an elite franchise QB ready to make a SB run.  That's going to be the deciding factor in who wants to come here.  The Colts are going to have to answer that question when the interviewing starts.  Looks like we don't have an answer now.  Hopefully we will know a lot more by the end of the season.   Firing Chuck now doesn't really speed that process up.  I think Irasy sends a good message to candidates by showing he is a man of his word and will give Chuck the full year to make his case like he said he would.