Refs blew the call

[CR91]

Im sorry guys. Im happy we won, but imo that was not a fumble. His knee was done before the ball came out

[our_dbs_rock]

Just now, CR91 said:

Im sorry guys. Im happy we won, but imo that was not a fumble. His knee was done before the ball came out

 

The ball was out, but it was sitting on his arm.  That is not control.

[Stephen]

No it wasnt

[Mr.Debonair]

Just now, CR91 said:

Im sorry guys. Im happy we won, but imo that was not a fumble. His knee was done before the ball came out

It was def close. The ball moving is what they saw along with not looking like he has complete control 

[krunk]

I don't care. We won!

[VaAllDay757]

The other camera view showed the ball moved he hit the ground....your opinion but they got it right regardless

[Calmack]

You're blind. The ball moved before his knee was down. Moved ball = loss of control. 

[dw49]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

Im sorry guys. Im happy we won, but imo that was not a fumble. His knee was done before the ball came out

 

The ball looked to be "parallel " with his forearm before his knee hit the ground. I think they felt the laws of gravity would mean it was coming out. A bit of assumption but probably the right call.

[MarquisJ]

Once the ball started moving and control is lost is when they consider it a fumble... Awful take, I’d watch it again if I was you. OP

[#12.]

I thought it was an obvious fumble, especially after seeing the sideline angle.

[MPStack]

It was very close and I'm surprised we got the turnover. The Colts were not going to stop the Jags on that drive, so fortunate we were.

[SteelCityColt]

Whichever side of the fence you sit I think we can all agree it was a close call. You win some, you lose some. We've had some terrible calls, so think of it as karma. 

 

Even in this very game the D holding call on Moore (?) was bogus.

[rockywoj]

Just now, dw49 said:

 

The ball looked to be "parallel " with his forearm before his knee hit the ground. I think they felt the laws of gravity would mean it was coming out. A bit of assumption but probably the right call.

Exactly.  Though you can’t really see the ball in and of itself moving at the moment his knee touched, it was CLEAR that he had no grasp on the ball, whatsoever.  Ergo, the ball is out of his control. 

[jvan1973]

4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Im sorry guys. Im happy we won, but imo that was not a fumble. His knee was done before the ball came out

I'll go with the refs call.   The ball was on the way out before his knee is down

[GoColts8818]

Just now, MPStack said:

It was very close and I'm surprised we got the turnover. The Colts were not going to stop the Jags on that drive, so fortunate we were.

Agree.  The Colts stole one because they played not to lose on offense the whole second half.

[MPStack]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Agree.  The Colts stole one because they played not to lose on offense the whole second half.

Definitely, a tail of two halves. Jags, did an excellent job with 2nd half adjustments and the Colts, not so much.

[ThorstenDenmark]

Would it have been a fumble if this was in the last minute of a playoff game?

 

Im not sure about that, but who cares, Colts won again

 

Next up... Titans who just smashed the Patriots 

[NewEra]

It was on the way out before knee touched. I'm just glad one finally went our way 

[chrisfarley]

IT was the right call.  There was an earlier angle that they didn't show much at the end (they were only showing the side angle and the back angle), but that earlier angle showed how the ball was coming out (sliding out) and then the back angle was the one that showed it coming out that the network and Gene Salvatore eluded to.  It was definitely a fumble and recovery by the Colts.  But Gene also saw (as did we all) the earlier angle of the ball coming out.  Keep in mind, this wasn't a high profile game and thus there were few camera angles...but even with that, we had all the umpires agreeing on this one...... great officiating. Three camera angles is all we needed.

[2006Coltsbestever]

To the OP

 

The REF with the announcers even said it was a fumble, it was a fumble you are wrong, ball was coming loose. 

[ColtsLegacy]

8 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Im sorry guys. Im happy we won, but imo that was not a fumble. His knee was done before the ball came out

 

I often carry a football on top of my forearm. It's the most secure way.

 

P.S. If it's not clear, I'm making a joke. You're wrong.

[superrep1967]

8 minutes ago, our_dbs_rock said:

 

The ball was out, but it was sitting on his arm.  That is not control.

You are correct the refs made the right the ball was coming out before his knee hit the ground. 

[masterlock]

The last replay angle showed he had already lost his grip on the ball, and therefore control of it, before the knee hit the ground. It only looks like he has control of it because it is moving parallel to his right forearm.

[NorthernBlue]

It was close for sure, trying to look at this objectively though, it's hard for me to say that I would agree to the call if they said it WASN'T a fumble. He secured the ball, took a few steps, then you can clearly see the ball loose and up on his forearm before his knee hit the ground, as in, he lost control. 

[Tsarquise]

That flukey play offsets that flukey interception by Cox. 

[NorthernBlue]

5 minutes ago, ThorstenDenmark said:

Would it have been a fumble if this was in the last minute of a playoff game?

 

Im not sure about that, but who cares, Colts won again

 

Next up... Titans who just smashed the Patriots 

Titans the type of team to beat NE and PHI, but then lose to Buffalo.

 

Which is literally exactly what they did  

 

They're extremely hot and cold, and right now, they're hot. I wager this is about to be the toughest game the Colts play this season. 

[CamMo]

It was close. I think it was too close to overturn the call on the field with such a close game. BUT, the head office official or whatever did say it looked like a fumble to him.

 

W for the good guys.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, masterlock said:

The last replay angle showed he had already lost his grip on the ball, and therefore control of it, before the knee hit the ground. It only looks like he has control of the ball because it is moving freely, parallel to his right forearm.

Yep. It was definitely a fumble. Even Bill Cowher said it was, I haven't heard 1 person on TV that said it wasn't. 

[King Colt]

Jeckle & Hyde game. First half Colts were shining then the second half they looked like the 2017 Colts. It was a fumble but the Colts should not ask for luck in the future. They got through this game by the skin on the butts.  The Titans are next and they crushed NE

[ColtStrong2013]

I wish on bang bang plays under 2 minutes that result in another team clearly recovering, they would let the play go for once... that was a touchdown return for Hooker.

[Dingus McGirt]

IDGAS. It's a win.

[John Hammonds]

I'm glad we won.  But we shouldn't have.

[BOTT]

Close, but kinda obvious unless you think runners typically carry the ball on top of their forearm 

[TheMarine]

We win vs Cincy, that call is as stands and Jax wins with a TD.

 

Its all forever a wash

[Luck is Good]

The ball wasn’t moving. But Greene didn’t have control of it. Therefore, it was a fumble

[Lawrence Owen]

2 minutes ago, Tsarquise said:

That flukey play offsets that flukey interception by Cox. 

indeed. that's now  4 of Lucks Int's off deflections

[Dingus McGirt]

Nice play just now by Ostweiler.   LOLOL

[BOTT]

12 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Agree.  The Colts stole one because they played not to lose on offense the whole second half.

Not sure about that.  The jags came out and chewed up a good chunk of the 3rd quarter. Then the colts kept shooting themselves in the foot with penalties and dropped passes.....one which caused a int.

 

either way, it was frustrating.

[Knuckles79]

It was the right call the ball had clearly moved before the knee touched.

[boo2202]

20 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Im sorry guys. Im happy we won, but imo that was not a fumble. His knee was done before the ball came out

Directed to jags forum>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Cclearly a fumble no control as knee hit