BProland85 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Colts had a really down season, such as a 5-11 season? Indy wasn't projected to make a run in the playoffs this year anyhow and with all these recent injuries that furthers their chances even more. I keep getting the feeling with everything surrounding Luck's availability, and the surplus of injuries elsewhere on this team, that we might be in for a long season. Especially if they don't wanna throw Luck out there until he is completely healthy and has a healthy OL around him. If that happens, the Colts could be looking at a 5-11 year or so, which actually might benefit them in the long run. How so you ask? 1) Pagano will finally be gone 2) Ballard will have a GREAT draft pick to try and trade to a team needing a QB, which would give Chris a surplus of added draft picks, something this team hasn't had the opportunity to do in a long time. 3) Hopefully this poor season will finally make front office find a capable backup QB in the draft (rounds 4-5) Just my opinion since I'm more of a big picture thinker myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'd rather invest in 3-4 more oline tbh lol..because for some reason ours are injury prone maybe it's the field but idk looks like we spoke too soon on having the same "core" returning for the first time of lucks career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 not sure how to respond to this i mean it wont devastate me or anything i really dont worry about chuck all that much. hes average at best, but the good candidates are not exactly lining up at our door. we can get better with mid or late picks too, we just have to take the right players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 We won 8 games last year with the worst pass blocking o-line, and the 30th ranked defense that generated the least amount of pressure of any defense in the NFL the last FOUR years. How/why do you think we would do worse this year? (Assuming Luck only misses 1-2 weeks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il vecchio Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yeah, the only possible way to go 5-11 is if Luck is out for the year. In that case, 5-11 is very realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, BProland85 said: The Colts had a really down season, such as a 5-11 season? Indy wasn't projected to make a run in the playoffs this year anyhow and with all these recent injuries that furthers their chances even more. I keep getting the feeling with everything surrounding Luck's availability, and the surplus of injuries elsewhere on this team, that we might be in for a long season. Especially if they don't wanna throw Luck out there until he is completely healthy and has a healthy OL around him. If that happens, the Colts could be looking at a 5-11 year or so, which actually might benefit them in the long run. How so you ask? 1) Pagano will finally be gone 2) Ballard will have a GREAT draft pick to try and trade to a team needing a QB, which would give Chris a surplus of added draft picks, something this team hasn't had the opportunity to do in a long time. 3) Hopefully this poor season will finally make front office find a capable backup QB in the draft (rounds 4-5) Just my opinion since I'm more of a big picture thinker myself. So you really think Pagano would lose his job if Luck does miss time and injuries strap what Pagano can do as a coach? It seems your more interested in Pagano getting fired than the Colts being successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Majin Vegeta said: We won 8 games last year with the worst pass blocking o-line, and the 30th ranked defense that generated the least amount of pressure of any defense in the NFL the last FOUR years. How/why do you think we would do worse this year? (Assuming Luck only misses 1-2 weeks) I'm not saying they will be worse, I dont think they will, but until you see the defense play, you have no idea how much better if any they will be. We all assumed the 2013 and 2015 free agent classes would put us over the top. Some free agents and draftee's will bust, its just statistically accurate. The O-line is also largely unchanged and already riddled with injuries so I can see why some people might be hesitant with their analysis of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfunky14 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Whoever wishes for their team to lose to have a higher draft pick is un- thinkable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I get the talent acquisition part of this theory but there is no way I would agree. I will never ever think the Colts losing is acceptable. Great GM's don't need high draft picks to assemble stellar teams. Example - Patriots vs Browns. I'd much rather see us get back into the tradition of winning all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hate the line of thinking. Plus, there really haven't been any long term injuries. I think it's been a relatively light injury year so far - we're just assuming the worst around here right now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 If this were to happen, you'd better be prepared to not listen to or read anything from the national media on the team or the "Luck is a bust and Colts are a dumpster fire" pundits will be having a field day. Nobody wants that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnet550 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Would it be the worst thing ever if this happened...maybe not. But we were an 8-8 team last year with no o-line or defense to speak up. I feel we are better on both of those fronts. The main problem of hoping for this is another year of Luck is wasted. If he plays a long career he might play until he is what 38 and be very effective.....He is not a rookie anymore (im not chicken little here, but the clock is ticking) I would hope unless Luck is going to be out for the year, which doesn't sound to be the case, that we would strive to win as many games as possible. Look what Luck did in the Kansas City game with no defense...with him a lot is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peytonator Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'd rather win the Super Bowl if I'm being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said: If this were to happen, you'd better be prepared to not listen to or read anything from the national media on the team or the "Luck is a bust and Colts are a dumpster fire" pundits will be having a field day. Nobody wants that. So you're suggesting we tank the season? Is your name Curtis Painter? With a name like Boiler_Colt, reasonable question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, csmopar said: So you're suggesting we tank the season? Is your name Curtis Painter? With a name like Boiler_Colt, reasonable question Wait what? Where did I say that? I said you DON'T want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said: Wait what? Where did I say that? I said you DON'T want that. Going by your name, we can conclude that you are used to watching a losing football team, when was the last time the Boilermakers had a winning season? the Joe Tiller/Drew Brees days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said: Wait what? Where did I say that? I said you DON'T want that. on a serious note, that was directed at the OP, not you, my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, csmopar said: Going by your name, we can conclude that you are used to watching a losing football team, when was the last time the Boilermakers had a winning season? the Joe Tiller/Drew Brees days? It certainly contributed to my sports pessimism, but truthfully I don't follow Purdue football because Tiller was a jerk to some of my friends who played for the team. And after Tiller there has been nothing worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsColtsFan1 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Colts aren't tanking anytime soon. The big question mark is Andrew Luck's health. I still think it's to early to panic, it's obviously a reason for concern right now but not time to panic. If he makes it back in time for the season opener there is no reason to believe the Colts can't make a run at the division title. Upgraded defense(still needs to show on the field though), the o-line was much better towards the end of last year and Luck and all of his weapons should be able to put up a decent amount of points. If Luck misses 6+ games then that's a different story. Nothing has been make official yet. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcolt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The South no longer provides an easy 5 or 6 wins and Chuck will lose a couple. 8-8 would be a great season even with Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRustonRifle#7 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Peytonator said: I'd rather win the Super Bowl if I'm being honest. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, BProland85 said: The Colts had a really down season, such as a 5-11 season? Indy wasn't projected to make a run in the playoffs this year anyhow and with all these recent injuries that furthers their chances even more. I keep getting the feeling with everything surrounding Luck's availability, and the surplus of injuries elsewhere on this team, that we might be in for a long season. Especially if they don't wanna throw Luck out there until he is completely healthy and has a healthy OL around him. If that happens, the Colts could be looking at a 5-11 year or so, which actually might benefit them in the long run. How so you ask? 1) Pagano will finally be gone 2) Ballard will have a GREAT draft pick to try and trade to a team needing a QB, which would give Chris a surplus of added draft picks, something this team hasn't had the opportunity to do in a long time. 3) Hopefully this poor season will finally make front office find a capable backup QB in the draft (rounds 4-5) Just my opinion since I'm more of a big picture thinker myself. I'd be happy with all 3 of those scenarios Especially with teams hunting for QB's next draft. If we had a top 5 pick we could rob the bank with a trade. Giving Ballard more picks can only be a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Well, I'll at least say those three things would be nice if we do lose more than 10 games. I'd rather us have a solid winning season and look consistently well coached doing it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, azcolt said: The South no longer provides an easy 5 or 6 wins and Chuck will lose a couple. 8-8 would be a great season even with Luck. I can't imagine thinking this way. Our Offense could be dominant if we get a break on the O-line injuries for once. 8-8 is wayyy below my expectations for a "great season". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaColts85 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, BProland85 said: The Colts had a really down season, such as a 5-11 season? Indy wasn't projected to make a run in the playoffs this year anyhow and with all these recent injuries that furthers their chances even more. I keep getting the feeling with everything surrounding Luck's availability, and the surplus of injuries elsewhere on this team, that we might be in for a long season. Especially if they don't wanna throw Luck out there until he is completely healthy and has a healthy OL around him. If that happens, the Colts could be looking at a 5-11 year or so, which actually might benefit them in the long run. How so you ask? 1) Pagano will finally be gone 2) Ballard will have a GREAT draft pick to try and trade to a team needing a QB, which would give Chris a surplus of added draft picks, something this team hasn't had the opportunity to do in a long time. 3) Hopefully this poor season will finally make front office find a capable backup QB in the draft (rounds 4-5) Just my opinion since I'm more of a big picture thinker myself. So we still have 4 weeks before the regular season and being cautious we sit a few players.....so I am curious of ALL these injuries you are referring too? Luck is the player that has been the talk of injuries. Kelly is still a possible start for the season. Many other players have little nags or stingers and are just taking time to heal so they do not continue when the games matter. So....again....why are you already throwing the towel in and being a negative fan??? Terrible post all around!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfeva Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, BProland85 said: The Colts had a really down season, such as a 5-11 season? Indy wasn't projected to make a run in the playoffs this year anyhow and with all these recent injuries that furthers their chances even more. I keep getting the feeling with everything surrounding Luck's availability, and the surplus of injuries elsewhere on this team, that we might be in for a long season. Especially if they don't wanna throw Luck out there until he is completely healthy and has a healthy OL around him. If that happens, the Colts could be looking at a 5-11 year or so, which actually might benefit them in the long run. How so you ask? 1) Pagano will finally be gone 2) Ballard will have a GREAT draft pick to try and trade to a team needing a QB, which would give Chris a surplus of added draft picks, something this team hasn't had the opportunity to do in a long time. 3) Hopefully this poor season will finally make front office find a capable backup QB in the draft (rounds 4-5) Just my opinion since I'm more of a big picture thinker myself. Have you been reading USA Today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 To clarify to the people thinking I want them to tank this year, I certainly do not. But when it comes down to what this team will be able to field, if I could pick a record of 8-8 and missing the playoffs vs. 5-11, I'm picking 5-11 because it gives Ballard so many more options for trading down and getting more draft picks to load up this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It would be horrible if we went 5-11. We have already wasted enough of Andrew Lucks prime years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaColts85 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, BProland85 said: To clarify to the people thinking I want them to tank this year, I certainly do not. But when it comes down to what this team will be able to field, if I could pick a record of 8-8 and missing the playoffs vs. 5-11, I'm picking 5-11 because it gives Ballard so many more options for trading down and getting more draft picks to load up this team. It sure sounds like you hoping for crap... I hope for every win possible. 8-8 would be better than 5-11. I do not care about next years draft spot. I hope it is #32. You can find talent all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all lol there is positives to both out comes imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Majin Vegeta said: We won 8 games last year with the worst pass blocking o-line, and the 30th ranked defense that generated the least amount of pressure of any defense in the NFL the last FOUR years. How/why do you think we would do worse this year? (Assuming Luck only misses 1-2 weeks) Titans came to rescue our season 2 years In a row to get us to 8-8. I think the Titans get over the hump this year and beat the Colts in at least one game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 IF they win 5 games, they'll have earned that kind of season, assuming Luck plays most of the season at a decent level (if he doesn't, then they're going to win 5 games irrespective). Would it be the worst thing? Well, it wouldn't really be good. Too much regression screws with teams psychology. Winning cures more than just making us goon fan's happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Denton Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 There is no guarantee on draft picks, even high ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadine Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Nope, far from the worst thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolMagnet Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Worst thing? No. 2nd worst thing? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySouthsider Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, csmopar said: Going by your name, we can conclude that you are used to watching a losing football team, when was the last time the Boilermakers had a winning season? the Joe Tiller/Drew Brees days? More recent than IU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Sigh... every single year this post seems to pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweezy32 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Id rather have the higher draft pick then have a better record and still not make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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