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  1. He looks like he’s about to come out of retirement and play defensive end. Dude is seriously jacked for a Stanford architectural degree having quarterback who plays dungeons and dragons.
  2. We were missing our reigning defensive player of the year, our stud FS, our other safety, one of our starting receivers, and we had a hobbled #1 WR and Rb. Every team is hurt, this is football, not shuffleboard.
  3. I do remember being a big trade back and draft Foles shipper early in the offseason, then I reneged and changed my mind to it being a foolish and Peyton homer type of thinking, and being all in on drafting the future, Luck. I don’t think that even in hindsight, that I could definitively say I side with either. Obviously I’d take the Manning/Foles Lombardi’s if all things are equal, but we’ll never know what the results would have been if we went that route. The thing about keeping Peyton is that they probably would have chosen to keep Caldwell and Polian, and retain the status quo. I don’t remember having much of a dog in the fight on the GM search, but I really wanted to bring in Mike Zimmer at head coach. I don’t retain the notion that a Peyton led 2011 team would have been anything less than an 11-5, possible deep playoff run, type of season that a lot of pundits seem to think. He was two seasons removed from being in the Super Bowl with largely the same team. He knew how to carry this team in a way that Kerry Collins being lured out of retirement didn’t. Bottom line is, I think that roster and front office needed a shakeup and it wouldn’t have happened with Peyton, even if it would have helped. I actually would have rather kept Caldwell and gotten rid of Polian in hindsight, but that probably would have been a crazy thought at the time, I can barely remember how most felt back then. I don’t believe drafting Luck should be looked at as a bad decision. He was a generational talent at the most premium position in the game. I do believe he lost the desire to play more so than his body just giving out on him, but that is neither here nor there. There is no way that we could have known either would occur back then and I think it’s very likely neither would have occurred if we went a different route than hiring Ryan Grigson.
  4. NCF, try not to let last night’s booing sully your view of the fan base. While I wouldn’t have been among them, the hundred or so odd fans that booed did so out of a few different factors; confusion, heartbreak, disappointment, and sheer mob mentality. I think the online reaction today across the NFL and Colts fan base has been far more reflective of the general mood than last night. Players, fans, and talking heads have come out in droves to support his decision. I don’t know if you plan to stick around now that he’s gone. I’ve actually asked you in the past and you did say that you don’t foresee leaving entirely after spending so much time here, I hope you stay true to that. The place won’t be the same without you, just don’t let a few reactionary fans make you think that they are in a majority, or that this destroys any good will that Andrew has built in his 7 NFL years.
  5. Those are not the mannerisms that either guy would use for such a conversation. Brissett would be far more reactionary than he is in that moment.
  6. Dude I just named four and that was off the top of my head. There was also Clark, Haeg, Blythe, and some other seventh rounders. It wasn’t for lack of trying or putting resources into pass protection that Luck was so beat up. Grigson was just bad at his job and it took a few years to realize this. It wasn’t as readily apparent either as it is in hindsight. Most of the board, me included really liked what he was doing the first three years when we were making the playoffs and got to the conference championship game. The dude won GM of the year in his first year. I don’t want to sound like a Grigson apologist because I don’t like the guy, but Irsay is largely blameless in all of this. I think Luck was destined for an early retirement. His love for the game waned. Being in constant rehab didn’t help but playing this sport professionally means taking a constant beating, and for him the constant beatings weren’t worth the reward. I hold no ill will towards him over this, although I wish the timing were a little better.
  7. Grigson tried to protect Luck. He drafted linemen early; Kelly, Mewhort, Thornton, Holmes, and he brought them in through free agency; Cherilus, Satele. He just brought in the wrong ones because he wasn’t a good GM. Plus the offensive scheme wasn’t conducive to protecting the franchise. It is not on Irsay that Luck wasn’t protected. Once it became obvious that Grigson wasn’t doing the job, Irsay got rid of him. I think Luck was destined for an early retirement anyway. There were rumors that his love for the game wasn’t all there for the last few years, we were all just living in denial....and for good reason. His early retirement blindsided everyone, including the people at the top.
  8. Stephen, I like your enthusiasm and I am going to say that he is undoubtedly as good as Vontae Davis in his prime. Not just that, he could probably rival Darrelle Revis before he’s even taken a live snap. I have at least seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.
  9. Melvin Gordon is holding out because he’s a running back on a rookie deal. Castonzo has already gotten his second contract so there’s no reason for him to hold out in a contract year. Ebron is also in a contract year and while he may have outplayed what he made last year, he’s not exactly a prototypical every down TE. He played like 50% of offensive snaps. He was given the opportunity of a lifetime by Reich and Ballard and was put in a position to succeed. Neither guy is in a spot where they would benefit from a holdout. Now let’s say Darius balls out this year and next the way he did his rookie year and isn’t given a new contract going in to year four, that would be a situation where we could see a holdout. I don’t think Ballard would allow that. The way that he rewarded Moore and to a lesser degree Desir and Hunt, I just don’t see him letting it get to that point.
  10. Really digging what I’m hearing about Turay. I have high expectations for him and thought he was more deserving of playing time down the stretch last year. Our edge is setting up pretty nicely with Houston and Sheard as our vets and Turay, Muhammad, and Banogu for youth. Interior line is still a weakness that I’d have liked to see addressed but we’ll see how it plays out. Hearing that Collins is getting some play with the 1’s is pretty cool. Does anyone know exactly how the rotations are going with the DBs? I think Wilson has always proven himself on the field for game days but there always seems to be whispers of his work ethic being questioned. He looked good last year at safety so I’m wondering if they’re giving him more work there with Geathers always questionable health. I think a small dime set of Collins, Desir, and Moore at CB, Hooker and Wilson at Safety, and Geathers at LB would be pretty tough to throw against.
  11. Campbell and it won’t even be close unless he plays half the year and Brown stays healthy.
  12. I can’t believe they’d leave out the Collins/Painter/Orlovsky trio. Those three men are instrumental in Colts lore.
  13. Am I the only one who thought @crazycolt1 is a woman?
  14. ‘If you’re a left tackle and your name is not Joe Thomas, you suck.’ - Colts fans
  15. So let’s look at the names you mentioned.... Autry - An exceptionally slight (270 pounds) UT. Someone whose game resembles Raheem Brock and is adequate but not spectacular, a solid role player. Hunt - Ditto. A 6’8” inch nose tackle is unheard of. He far exceeded expectations and was asked to play way more snaps than he should. I like the guy, as I do Autry, but he is far more effective on a defensive line rotation. I do not want him starting, much less being our nose tackle on base downs. Fans have a bad habit of hyperbole when it comes to their own players, good and bad, and Hunt is probably our most egregious one. He had one sack over the last twelve games last year. He will also be 32 next year. Stewart - An actual nose by traditional standards, just not appearing to be ready by all evidence at this point. He had a poor PFF grade and say what you want about them, but their dline grades are always pretty spot on. I think his NFL ceiling is about Mookie Johnson level but that might be pushing it and certainly not for another three years. Lewis - Honestly I am not nearly as high on him as Ballard or any of my fellow Colts fans. I really hope I’m wrong but he did not impress me on the edge, and he looked equally unimpressive when he moved inside. His best NFL comp is Keyunta Dawson. If he meets the expectations of what most seem to be putting on him, he is also redundant to Autry. Robinson, Thompson, Shippy, Jegede - Four additional undrafted rookies that are at least half camp bodies should probably not even be listed among the names to make anyone feel better about that position being good to go. That’s not to say they’re gonna be bad. I really like the Thompson and Shippy signings. I hope they turn out to be Damon Harrison and John Randle. But most likely they’re all out of the league after preseason and looking to sign deals with the Saskatchewan Roughriders. Bottom line, while they far surpassed their own abilities last year in bottling up some big time backs like Saquon, Zeke, and Derrick Henry, I don’t feel comfortable counting on the same production out of guys who are at best third and fourth men on a dline rotation. I think it could end in an ugly result using an interior dline of Raheem Brock, Keyunta Dawson, Mookie Johnson, a string bean, and a random assortment of undersized rookies from powerhouses like Charleston Southern and Alcorn State.
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