Former Colt is highest rated guard in the league after 3 weeks

[Steamboat_Shaun]

I never would've thought this in a million years, but alas:

 

[krunk]

Ha

[Valpo2004]

Another Jerry Hughes situation?

 

Good to see a former Hawkeye doing well though.  

[Four2itus]

I wonder what was said about him before he left......

[Luck 4 president]

14 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

I wonder what was said about him before he left......

Most on here were surprised he was cut. He was good depth imo. Looks like he just needed to be given an opportunity 

[Defjamz26]

I was high on him when he was coming out. But he was misplaced in Pagano’s scheme it seems. He’s a zone guard

[Steamboat_Shaun]

38 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

I wonder what was said about him before he left......

 

I thought he was a good grab for a 7th rounder, & would've liked to see him get a chance to develop with the new coaching staff, but Ballard cut him pretty quickly after being hired if I'm remembering correctly.

[VaAllDay757]

But wasn't they trying to make him a tackle in indy???

[Flash7]

I was surprised when he was cut. Oh well.

[MTC]

1 minute ago, VaAllDay757 said:

But wasn't they trying to make him a tackle in indy???

 

I could be wrong, but I thought he was competing with Jonotthan Harrison at center and he lost. 

[Nesjan3]

Was it Grigson or Ballard who cut him? If it was Grigs than we all know he was inept at recognizing talent so not surprised, if it was Ballard than also not surprised because he seems to just want to get rid of all Grigsons picks no matter what haha. Sucks that a former 7th round pick of ours is lighting it up with another team though..

[dgambill]

Test him......just kidding. Imagine put him in an offense that doesn't hold onto the ball for 5 seconds and has a good running game and bam...he is a hit. Good for Austin. Seems we got rid of the wrong lineman from that class but still happy for a former Colt and his family! Hope he gets paid!

 

[NewEra]

20 minutes ago, MTC said:

 

I could be wrong, but I thought he was competing with Jonotthan Harrison at center and he lost. 

I thought so too. Was one of the many centers we had at the time 

[#12.]

He started a game at center.

 

The Rams claimed him the day after we waived him.  They must have had a local scout who saw something in him while they were still in St.  Louis and he was at Iowa.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I always liked him. Was disappointed when he was cut but not surprised.

[richard pallo]

He was a backup center and I thought he was pretty good but small if I remember.  I was actually surprised when he was cut.  

[Cynjin]

2 hours ago, Nesjan3 said:

Was it Grigson or Ballard who cut him? If it was Grigs than we all know he was inept at recognizing talent so not surprised, if it was Ballard than also not surprised because he seems to just want to get rid of all Grigsons picks no matter what haha. Sucks that a former 7th round pick of ours is lighting it up with another team though..

 

Pretty sure it was Grigson that cut him his rookie year.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I actually liked him for depth but it is what it is. Sometimes you let players go that you probably shouldn't and sometimes you hit on players that others pass on. Every team in the NFL passed on Leonard for example.

[DougDew]

He was drafted by Grigson to back up Kelly.  Then was cut by Ballard.

 

Wiki -

 

Blythe was drafted in the seventh round (248th overall) of the 2016 NFL draft by the Indianapolis Colts. He signed his rookie contract with the Colts on May 5, 2016.[3] As a rookie in 2016, he served as a backup center behind fellow rookie Ryan Kelly. In the 2016 season, Blythe played in eight games with one start.

 

On May 15, 2017, Blythe was waived by the Colts

 

I don't know who backed up Kelly at C in 2017.

 

[Scott Pennock]

He was a former wrestler and surprisingly strong for his size so this does not surprise me. I liked him over Bond and Harrison when he was cut...

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

He was drafted by Grigson to back up Kelly.  Then was cut by Ballard.

 

Wiki -

 

Blythe was drafted in the seventh round (248th overall) of the 2016 NFL draft by the Indianapolis Colts. He signed his rookie contract with the Colts on May 5, 2016.[3] As a rookie in 2016, he served as a backup center behind fellow rookie Ryan Kelly. In the 2016 season, Blythe played in eight games with one start.

 

On May 15, 2017, Blythe was waived by the Colts

 

I don't know who backed up Kelly at C in 2017.

 

 

The guys who backed up Kelky last year were a Bond, who did well, then got hurt.    And Person, who did well, but we did not keep this off season.   I think there was one other player,  but I don’t recall who it was.

 

 

[compuls1v3]

4 hours ago, VaAllDay757 said:

But wasn't they trying to make him a tackle in indy???

He was Kelly's backup at center.

[IinD]

Not really sure the 248th pick is a miss per se. Nobody thought he was worth drafting.

And, it's only week 3, he's got a long way to go to make this move a bad one.

But good for him, I'll always root for an underdog.

[indyagent17]

5 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

I never would've thought this in a million years, but alas:

 

Thanks for the laugh 

[chad72]

5 hours ago, MTC said:

 

I could be wrong, but I thought he was competing with Jonotthan Harrison at center and he lost. 

 

True. He was compared to Jeff Saturday in stature by some Iowa Hawkeye fans and projected at center. Since we drafted Ryan Kelly, it was a matter of time that he became expendable at center. He did fill in at guard due to injury once or twice, I think, but it could have been a case of scheme not protecting him and his strength not being up to snuff at that point in time.

 

Right guy at right time is what the NFL is all about. He just wasn't right for us at that time and I am glad he latched on very well with the Rams in their scheme, good for him. 

[Defjamz26]

To be fair he was a center in college though he had played at other spots early in his career. I don’t think anyone  besides the Rams though to try him at guard. Plus he’s a zone blocker.

 

Scheme and position changes can do wonders for a player.

[dodsworth]

Only if we could draft a lineman in the later rounds and have the

highest rating of all guards......oh wait.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

1 hour ago, indyagent17 said:

Thanks for the laugh 

 

What’s really laughable is that Quenton Nelson isn’t on this list.

[Superman]

4 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

To be fair he was a center in college though he had played at other spots early in his career. I don’t think anyone  besides the Rams though to try him at guard. Plus he’s a zone blocker.

 

Scheme and position changes can do wonders for a player.

 

We played him at guard, he wasn't good. I never thought he should be tried at guard, given his size and short arms. He played some guard for the Rams last year, also. He only got thrown into the starting lineup because their regular starter was suspended the first two games, but now they're keeping Blythe in since he's played so well. Good for him. I always liked him as a backup center, but he's proving me wrong right now.

[K-148]

4 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

What’s really laughable is that Quenton Nelson isn’t on this list.

Nelson was playing against Fletcher Cox (PFF 92.4, #1 DI), Brandon Graham (PFF 83.6, #7 ED), Chris Long (PFF 82.0, #10 ED), Geno Atkins (PFF 89.6, #7 DI), Ryan Glasgow (PFF 84.1, #13 DI), Carlos Dunlap (PFF 80.9, #12 ED), Matt Ioannidis (PFF 82.4, #15 DI)...

+Ryan Kerrigan, Jonathan Allen, Derek Barnett, Carl Lawson, Sam Hubbard! BTW, after CIN-IND game Atkins was 69.0 or something like that.

Blythe was facing Cardinals (best DI - Rodney Gunter, 64.8, #65, best ED - Benson Mayowa, 74.2, #23), Chargers (best DI - Darius Philon, 78.6, #21, best ED - Melvin Ingram, 65.3, #51), Raiders (best DI - Clinton McDonald, 74.7, #31, best ED - Frostee Rucker, 73.7, #24).

Total defense (nfl.com): Redskins #2, Eagles #9, Bengals #26... Raiders #20, Chargers #24, Cardinals #25.

It's not like Austin was playing agaist his own DL.

[akcolt]

He started at RG for us in one game. I am pretty sure it was the game in London.  That did not go well for us or Austin.  We cut him because he lacked position flexibility as a Colt. Whatever the reason was be it scheme fit, short arms, or lack of strength. He struggled playing G while he was here.  It's next to impossible to make a roster as a reserve if your a pure pivot. 

 

It is good to see him having success else where. We may have found something Grig's was good at. He nailed those 7th round picks and went OL heavy. We have to toss out the 2012 draft but after that his 7th rounders were K Williams 2013,  John 2014, Good 2015 and Blythe 2016. That is quite a run. Unfortunately Good is the only one that helped the Colts. . 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

4 hours ago, K-148 said:

Nelson was playing against Fletcher Cox (PFF 92.4, #1 DI), Brandon Graham (PFF 83.6, #7 ED), Chris Long (PFF 82.0, #10 ED), Geno Atkins (PFF 89.6, #7 DI), Ryan Glasgow (PFF 84.1, #13 DI), Carlos Dunlap (PFF 80.9, #12 ED), Matt Ioannidis (PFF 82.4, #15 DI)...

+Ryan Kerrigan, Jonathan Allen, Derek Barnett, Carl Lawson, Sam Hubbard! BTW, after CIN-IND game Atkins was 69.0 or something like that.

Blythe was facing Cardinals (best DI - Rodney Gunter, 64.8, #65, best ED - Benson Mayowa, 74.2, #23), Chargers (best DI - Darius Philon, 78.6, #21, best ED - Melvin Ingram, 65.3, #51), Raiders (best DI - Clinton McDonald, 74.7, #31, best ED - Frostee Rucker, 73.7, #24).

Total defense (nfl.com): Redskins #2, Eagles #9, Bengals #26... Raiders #20, Chargers #24, Cardinals #25.

It's not like Austin was playing agaist his own DL.

 

I didn’t need you to fansplain this to me. What I was implying is that considering how well Nelson has played against elite competition thus far, he should be rated much higher.

[MacDee1975]

15 hours ago, Nesjan3 said:

Was it Grigson or Ballard who cut him? If it was Grigs than we all know he was inept at recognizing talent so not surprised, if it was Ballard than also not surprised because he seems to just want to get rid of all Grigsons picks no matter what haha. Sucks that a former 7th round pick of ours is lighting it up with another team though..

 

If Grigson cut him, it's because he sucked.

If Ballard cut him, it was for a very valid reason, like "he didn't fit our scheme" or something.

[BlueShoe]

I’ve been paying attention to his career and was very surprised when we cut him. It didn’t make any sense then and it sure and the heck doesn’t now. 

[K-148]

1 hour ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I didn’t need you to fansplain this to me. What I was implying is that considering how well Nelson has played against elite competition thus far, he should be rated much higher.

Thanks for new word to my vocabulary. Fansplain...

"When a fan tries to explain something to a pro athlete, coach, GM or entertainer about the pro's craft. Takeoff of mansplain."

Sorry, Mr. Pro, last time I checked, PFF doesn't count rating of opponent into consideration. It's either win or loss.

[Coffeedrinker]

1 hour ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

If Grigson cut him, it's because he sucked.

If Ballard cut him, it was for a very valid reason, like "he didn't fit our scheme" or something.

People use that type of arguments for all sorts of things.  People who didn't like Manning, if the Colts won it was because the other team blew it, or someone else stepped up, etc but if they lost it was all Manning's fault.  They have used it with Dungy, Polian, Caldwell, Manning, Luck, now Ballard and Grigson.

[Lawrence Owen]

1 hour ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I didn’t need you to fansplain this to me. What I was implying is that considering how well Nelson has played against elite competition thus far, he should be rated much higher.

He has made a couple mistakes on the snap when facing these perennial D-linemen.  Though most of the time he has a quick recovery, The initial loss at the snap has counted against him more than when he is able to recover as per PFF scoring.

[Coffeedrinker]

5 minutes ago, Lawrence Owen said:

He has made a couple mistakes on the snap when facing these perennial D-linemen.  Though most of the time he has a quick recovery, The initial loss at the snap has counted against him more than when he is able to recover as per PFF scoring.

IMO PFF lineman grades are about as accurate and tracking 7 on 7 QB completion percentage in training camp... it's not totally worthless but doesn't offer anything of real value.

[Lawrence Owen]

1 minute ago, Coffeedrinker said:

IMO PFF lineman grades are about as accurate and tracking 7 on 7 QB completion percentage in training camp... it's not totally worthless but doesn't offer anything of real value.

Agreed,...but i was just trying to explain why PFF has Quinton graded so low.

[K-148]

1 minute ago, Coffeedrinker said:

IMO PFF lineman grades are about as accurate and tracking 7 on 7 QB completion percentage in training camp... it's not totally worthless but doesn't offer anything of real value.

They are pretty accurate, but sometimes misleading: reader has to know whom lineman was playing. PFF doesn't increase score because of strong opponent, nor it decrease because of weak one. At the end of a season, when all games are played and all opponents, bad or great, were met, PFF is at it's best.