Colts Starters Week 1 PFF Grades - Broken Down

[UKColt13]

Grades from Week 1 vs Cincinatti.

 

Top Performers Bolded

 

Offense:

 

Andrew Luck -                 82.1 overall grade - #6 QB

 

Jordan Wilkins -               56.4 overall grade - #35 RB

Nyheim Hines -                60.5 overall grade - #24 RB

 

TY Hilton -                         53.9 overall grade - #79 WR

Chester Rodgers -             59.5 overall grade - #56 WR

Ryan Grant -                      61.4 overall grade - #51 WR

 

Jack Doyle -                       60.7 overall grade - #26 TE

                                            54.0 receiving         - #23 TE

                                            84.4 blocking          - #1 TE

Eric Ebron -                      69.1 overall grade - #14 TE

                                            75.6 receiving        - #9 TE

                                            47.9 blocking         - #61 TE

 

Joe Haeg -                          64.6 overall grade - #28 T

                                            64.5 pass block      - #44 T

                                            60.3 run block       - #30 T

Quenton Nelson -            62.9 overall grade - #27 G

                                            70.3 pass block       - #36 G

                                            56.8 run block        - #32 G

Ryan Kelly -                     70.9 overall grade - #6 C

                                            73.4 pass block       - #19 C

                                            69.1 run block        - #6 C

Matt Slauson -                  60.3 overall grade - #37 G

                                            74.9 pass block      - #29 G

                                            49.7 run block       - #53 G

J'Marcus Webb -              64.5 overall grade - #29 T

                                            73.6 pass block      - #27 T

                                            50.6 run block       - #48 T

 

Defense:

 

Jabaal Sheard -               79.4  overall grade - #9 ED

                                            76.9 pass rush         - #7 ED

                                            66.5 run defense    - #29 ED

Al Woods -                        61.4 overall grade - #63 DI

                                            62.8 pass rush        - #34 DI

                                            70.7 run defense    - #36 DI

Denico Autry -                  82.0 overall grade - #15 DI

                                            59.3 pass rush        - #49 DI

                                            82.0 run defense   - #3 DI

Margus Hunt -                 79.0 overall grade - #10 ED

                                            72.0 pass rush        - #16 ED

                                            71.1 run defense    - #16 ED

 

Darius Leonard -             69.2 overall grade - #28 LB

                                            57.7 run defense    - #48 LB

                                            72.5 coverage         - #17 LB

Anthony Walker -           76.6 overall grade - #13 LB

                                            78.4 run defense    - Not Ranked

                                            57.8 coverage          - Not Ranked

 

Quincy Wilson -               29.1 overall grade - #99 CB

                                            28.3 coverage         - #97 CB

Kenny Moore III -            71.8 overall grade - #29 CB

                                            72.6 coverage         - #33 CB

Nate Hairston -                59.0 overall grade - #63 CB

                                            57.6 overall grade - #68 CB

 

Malik Hooker -                 66.9 overall grade - #37 S

                                            65.2 coverage         - #38 S

Clayton Geathers -          63.5 overall grade - #43 S

                                            64.5 coverage         - #41 S

Matthias Farley -            82.2 overall grade - #6 S

                                            77.4 overall grade - #8 S

 

Presented without comment. I know some people don't like PFF. Some people do. This is for the latter group.

 

[richard pallo]

Look at Quincy Wilson!   He played 71% of the snaps and he has numbers like that!  Panic or patience?  Panic!   No wonder they activated Pipkens.   Ballard has to start wondering if he really  missed on this pick.  

[krunk]

3 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Look at Quincy Wilson!   He played 71% of the snaps and he has numbers like that!  Panic or patience?  Panic!   No wonder they activated Pipkens.   Ballard has to start wondering if he really  missed on this pick.  

Do you not realize Wilson is playing with a cast/club on his hand?

[TheMarine]

12 minutes ago, krunk said:

Do you not realize Wilson is playing with a cast/club on his hand?

 

Do we tell him too it was against AJ freakin Green without a consistent pass rush?

[krunk]

Just now, TheMarine said:

 

Do we tell him too it was against AJ freakin Green without a consistent pass rush?

oh god

[richard pallo]

33 minutes ago, krunk said:

Do you not realize Wilson is playing with a cast/club on his hand?

What's he doing playing 71% Of the snaps with a cast and you can see he's not effective?  Desir doesn't play a snap?   It didn't bother the coaches to leave him out there so I guess you can't use that as an excuse.  They expected him to perform. 

[lollygagger8]

PFF makes no sense to me: 

 

Jabaal Sheard -               79.4  overall grade - #9 ED

                                            76.9 pass rush         - #7 ED

                                            66.5 run defense    - #29 ED

 

Margus Hunt -                 79.0 overall grade - #10 ED

                                            72.0 pass rush        - #16 ED

                                            71.1 run defense    - #16 ED

 

Sheard grades out higher than a dude with two sacks? 

[Indy1996]

2 hours ago, UKColt13 said:

Grades from Week 1 vs Cincinatti.

 

Top Performers Bolded

 

Offense:

 

Andrew Luck -                 82.1 overall grade - #6 QB

 

Jordan Wilkins -               56.4 overall grade - #35 RB

Nyheim Hines -                60.5 overall grade - #24 RB

 

TY Hilton -                         53.9 overall grade - #79 WR

Chester Rodgers -             59.5 overall grade - #56 WR

Ryan Grant -                      61.4 overall grade - #51 WR

 

Jack Doyle -                       60.7 overall grade - #26 TE

                                            54.0 receiving         - #23 TE

                                            84.4 blocking          - #1 TE

Eric Ebron -                      69.1 overall grade - #14 TE

                                            75.6 receiving        - #9 TE

                                            47.9 blocking         - #61 TE

 

Joe Haeg -                          64.6 overall grade - #28 T

                                            64.5 pass block      - #44 T

                                            60.3 run block       - #30 T

Quenton Nelson -            62.9 overall grade - #27 G

                                            70.3 pass block       - #36 G

                                            56.8 run block        - #32 G

Ryan Kelly -                     70.9 overall grade - #6 C

                                            73.4 pass block       - #19 C

                                            69.1 run block        - #6 C

Matt Slauson -                  60.3 overall grade - #37 G

                                            74.9 pass block      - #29 G

                                            49.7 run block       - #53 G

J'Marcus Webb -              64.5 overall grade - #29 T

                                            73.6 pass block      - #27 T

                                            50.6 run block       - #48 T

 

Defense:

 

Jabaal Sheard -               79.4  overall grade - #9 ED

                                            76.9 pass rush         - #7 ED

                                            66.5 run defense    - #29 ED

Al Woods -                        61.4 overall grade - #63 DI

                                            62.8 pass rush        - #34 DI

                                            70.7 run defense    - #36 DI

Denico Autry -                  82.0 overall grade - #15 DI

                                            59.3 pass rush        - #49 DI

                                            82.0 run defense   - #3 DI

Margus Hunt -                 79.0 overall grade - #10 ED

                                            72.0 pass rush        - #16 ED

                                            71.1 run defense    - #16 ED

 

Darius Leonard -             69.2 overall grade - #28 LB

                                            57.7 run defense    - #48 LB

                                            72.5 coverage         - #17 LB

Anthony Walker -           76.6 overall grade - #13 LB

                                            78.4 run defense    - Not Ranked

                                            57.8 coverage          - Not Ranked

 

Quincy Wilson -               29.1 overall grade - #99 CB

                                            28.3 coverage         - #97 CB

Kenny Moore III -            71.8 overall grade - #29 CB

                                            72.6 coverage         - #33 CB

Nate Hairston -                59.0 overall grade - #63 CB

                                            57.6 overall grade - #68 CB

 

Malik Hooker -                 66.9 overall grade - #37 S

                                            65.2 coverage         - #38 S

Clayton Geathers -          63.5 overall grade - #43 S

                                            64.5 coverage         - #41 S

Matthias Farley -            82.2 overall grade - #6 S

                                            77.4 overall grade - #8 S

 

Presented without comment. I know some people don't like PFF. Some people do. This is for the latter group.

 

i dont listen to rankings and quincy played nickle on sunday like rankings dont really mean anything for 1 week

[Mitch Connors]

2 hours ago, krunk said:

Do you not realize Wilson is playing with a cast/club on his hand?

 

Would you argue that the coaching staff shouldn't have played Wilson then? 

 

Cant have it both ways.

 

Either he was ready to play with a club and delivered poor results or he wasnt ready to play and the coaches are at fault for putting him out there.

[BOTT]

Sheard's mother must work at PFF.

[ProblChld32]

3 hours ago, UKColt13 said:

Malik Hooker -                 66.9 overall grade - #37 S

                                            65.2 coverage         - #38 S

Clayton Geathers -          63.5 overall grade - #43 S

                                            64.5 coverage         - #41 S

Matthias Farley -            82.2 overall grade - #6 S

                                            77.4 overall grade - #8 S

 

Here’s My unpopular opinion, Mathias Farley needs to be starting next to Clayton. As I mentioned before Geathers is a big liability in coverage, I like him more as a box safety or a Nickel Linebacker. But Mathias has shown that he is definitely the better coverage safety between the two. 

[Coffeedrinker]

3 hours ago, UKColt13 said:

Grades from Week 1 vs Cincinatti.

 

Top Performers Bolded

 

Offense:

 

Andrew Luck -                 82.1 overall grade - #6 QB

 

Jordan Wilkins -               56.4 overall grade - #35 RB

Nyheim Hines -                60.5 overall grade - #24 RB

 

TY Hilton -                         53.9 overall grade - #79 WR

Chester Rodgers -             59.5 overall grade - #56 WR

Ryan Grant -                      61.4 overall grade - #51 WR

 

Jack Doyle -                       60.7 overall grade - #26 TE

                                            54.0 receiving         - #23 TE

                                            84.4 blocking          - #1 TE

Eric Ebron -                      69.1 overall grade - #14 TE

                                            75.6 receiving        - #9 TE

                                            47.9 blocking         - #61 TE

 

Joe Haeg -                          64.6 overall grade - #28 T

                                            64.5 pass block      - #44 T

                                            60.3 run block       - #30 T

Quenton Nelson -            62.9 overall grade - #27 G

                                            70.3 pass block       - #36 G

                                            56.8 run block        - #32 G

Ryan Kelly -                     70.9 overall grade - #6 C

                                            73.4 pass block       - #19 C

                                            69.1 run block        - #6 C

Matt Slauson -                  60.3 overall grade - #37 G

                                            74.9 pass block      - #29 G

                                            49.7 run block       - #53 G

J'Marcus Webb -              64.5 overall grade - #29 T

                                            73.6 pass block      - #27 T

                                            50.6 run block       - #48 T

 

Defense:

 

Jabaal Sheard -               79.4  overall grade - #9 ED

                                            76.9 pass rush         - #7 ED

                                            66.5 run defense    - #29 ED

Al Woods -                        61.4 overall grade - #63 DI

                                            62.8 pass rush        - #34 DI

                                            70.7 run defense    - #36 DI

Denico Autry -                  82.0 overall grade - #15 DI

                                            59.3 pass rush        - #49 DI

                                            82.0 run defense   - #3 DI

Margus Hunt -                 79.0 overall grade - #10 ED

                                            72.0 pass rush        - #16 ED

                                            71.1 run defense    - #16 ED

 

Darius Leonard -             69.2 overall grade - #28 LB

                                            57.7 run defense    - #48 LB

                                            72.5 coverage         - #17 LB

Anthony Walker -           76.6 overall grade - #13 LB

                                            78.4 run defense    - Not Ranked

                                            57.8 coverage          - Not Ranked

 

Quincy Wilson -               29.1 overall grade - #99 CB

                                            28.3 coverage         - #97 CB

Kenny Moore III -            71.8 overall grade - #29 CB

                                            72.6 coverage         - #33 CB

Nate Hairston -                59.0 overall grade - #63 CB

                                            57.6 overall grade - #68 CB

 

Malik Hooker -                 66.9 overall grade - #37 S

                                            65.2 coverage         - #38 S

Clayton Geathers -          63.5 overall grade - #43 S

                                            64.5 coverage         - #41 S

Matthias Farley -            82.2 overall grade - #6 S

                                            77.4 overall grade - #8 S

 

Presented without comment. I know some people don't like PFF. Some people do. This is for the latter group.

 

I'm not a fan of PFF but thanks for posting.

 

Would it be possible for you to post the numbers of the Bengals players for week 1?  it would be interesting to do a matchup comparison.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

2 hours ago, richard pallo said:

Look at Quincy Wilson!   He played 71% of the snaps and he has numbers like that!  Panic or patience?  Panic!   No wonder they activated Pipkens.   Ballard has to start wondering if he really  missed on this pick.  

 

He's playing with 1 hand. And they activated Pipkins because Milton is in concussion protocol.

[UKColt13]

11 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:

I'm not a fan of PFF but thanks for posting.

 

Would it be possible for you to post the numbers of the Bengals players for week 1?  it would be interesting to do a matchup comparison.

 

I’ll see if I can post a new topic with both tomorrow

[krunk]

12 minutes ago, ProblChld32 said:

 

Here’s My unpopular opinion, Mathias Farley needs to be starting next to Clayton. As I mentioned before Geathers is a big liability in coverage, I like him more as a box safety or a Nickel Linebacker. But Mathias has shown that he is definitely the better coverage safety between the two. 

Not too crazy sounding but I say let's play a couple more games.   Also we probably already have packages where they switch roles.  Farley  and Hooker on the backend with Geathers down low.

[Luck 4 president]

1 hour ago, lollygagger8 said:

PFF makes no sense to me: 

 

Jabaal Sheard -               79.4  overall grade - #9 ED

                                            76.9 pass rush         - #7 ED

                                            66.5 run defense    - #29 ED

 

Margus Hunt -                 79.0 overall grade - #10 ED

                                            72.0 pass rush        - #16 ED

                                            71.1 run defense    - #16 ED

 

Sheard grades out higher than a dude with two sacks? 

He probably had a higher pressure rate on pass rushing snaps which forced bad throws. 

[akcolt]

25 minutes ago, ProblChld32 said:

 

Here’s My unpopular opinion, Mathias Farley needs to be starting next to Clayton. As I mentioned before Geathers is a big liability in coverage, I like him more as a box safety or a Nickel Linebacker. But Mathias has shown that he is definitely the better coverage safety between the two. 

I agree if you meant to say Farley and Hooker starting. Geathers is better when he plays closer to the line of scrimmage and running with TE's. He's not much smaller then our LB's with the defensive switch. 

[akcolt]

5 minutes ago, Luck 4 president said:

He probably had a higher pressure rate on pass rushing snaps which forced bad throws. 

I believe there is an article explaining just that. Oh and I read somewhere he has family working at PFF. 

[aaron11]

6 minutes ago, akcolt said:

I agree if you meant to say Farley and Hooker starting. Geathers is better when he plays closer to the line of scrimmage and running with TE's. He's not much smaller then our LB's with the defensive switch. 

ive thought cover 3 would be a better scheme for our safeties but im not sure if we have the corners for it

 

 

[Colt.45]

3 hours ago, krunk said:

Do you not realize Wilson is playing with a cast/club on his hand?

 

Still has to play better. Desir didn't see a snap. Whether it's on Ballard or the coaches, no way Desir would have been a worse player to have active than Quincy. If you're out there, club or not, you have to perform. It's simple really. He was terrible.

[MTC]

You're the real MVP @UKColt13 .

[Luck 4 president]

Ya Quincy needs to be benched until he heals up or learns to play with a club. He looked lost on sunday. 

[akcolt]

16 minutes ago, Colt.45 said:

 

Still has to play better. Desir didn't see a snap. Whether it's on Ballard or the coaches, no way Desir would have been a worse player to have active than Quincy. If you're out there, club or not, you have to perform. It's simple really. He was terrible.

Desir wasn't inactive. He was available to play and saw action on special teams. The inactive that was a head scratcher for me was Ridgeway. Particularly after the preseason he had. I was hoping to hear the staff talk about that decision.

 

I'm guessing it was because the injuries to Castonzo and Good forced an extra OL active.  Odum or C Moore would've been a bettter choices to me. I am sure ST's played a part. I was really looking forward to seeing Ridgeway turned loose. 

[ProblChld32]

1 hour ago, akcolt said:

I agree if you meant to say Farley and Hooker starting. Geathers is better when he plays closer to the line of scrimmage and running with TE's. He's not much smaller then our LB's with the defensive switch. 

Yes I definitely meant Farley next to Hooker not Geathers lol 

[ProblChld32]

1 hour ago, krunk said:

Not too crazy sounding but I say let's play a couple more games.   Also we probably already have packages where they switch roles.  Farley  and Hooker on the backend with Geathers down low.

 

I agree its too early in the season to write Geathers off, i also have to remind myself he is almost a year removed from football. I just really cringe watching him cover when Mathias is solid in that area.

[ColtsXNation6]

4 hours ago, krunk said:

Do you not realize Wilson is playing with a cast/club on his hand?

HE didn’t even watch the game probably just watched the highlights 

[jameszeigler834]

4 hours ago, krunk said:

Do you not realize Wilson is playing with a cast/club on his hand?

He had a nonsense PI call against him last game too.

[VaAllDay757]

Still don't understand why desir didn't play

[BeanDiasucci]

How does it work that Woods' overall grade is so much lower than his pass rush and run defense grades? 

 

Al Woods -                        61.4 overall grade - #63 DI

                                            62.8 pass rush        - #34 DI

                                            70.7 run defense    - #36 DI

[B~Town]

4 hours ago, Luck 4 president said:

He probably had a higher pressure rate on pass rushing snaps which forced bad throws. 

Yes Moore benefited from those bad throws our CB's played very poorly . 

[throwing BBZ]

These rankings show a lot of mediocrity.
 Just what i expected with our new, young program. 
And lots of players to be rooting for. 

[Scott Pennock]

My eyes must have deceived me because it seemed like Autry was stonewalled and/or washed out on every play and yet he was awarded the second highest grades.....lol

[AZColt11]

Sorta surprised on Leonard.  My eyes saw a pretty good performance.

[BOTT]

8 hours ago, Luck 4 president said:

He probably had a higher pressure rate on pass rushing snaps which forced bad throws. 

Sheard must have gotten pressure on those whole 7 passes that Dalton couldn't complete lol.

[AwesomeAustin]

1 hour ago, AZColt11 said:

Sorta surprised on Leonard.  My eyes saw a pretty good performance.

 

Leonard was ranked #28 out of approximately 100 starting linebackers. That is almost top quarter of the league in his first career start.  I consider that a pretty good performance. 

[K-148]

So 270 lbs Autry was a better run defender than 330 lbs Woods. And it's not a coincidence. Aaron Donald is great run defender at 280 lbs... 340 lbs Chapman, 330 Hughes, 320 Redding were not. So you don't have to have "big fat uglies" to stop the run.

[Peterk2011]

20 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

PFF makes no sense to me: 

Jabaal Sheard -               79.4  overall grade - #9 ED

                                            76.9 pass rush         - #7 ED

                                            66.5 run defense    - #29 ED

Margus Hunt -                 79.0 overall grade - #10 ED

                                            72.0 pass rush        - #16 ED

                                            71.1 run defense    - #16 ED

 

Sheard grades out higher than a dude with two sacks? 

 

Maybe it's time to realize that production is not merely about number of sacks?

 

[aaron11]

14 minutes ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

Maybe it's time to realize that production is not merely about number of sacks?

 

or that pff can be wrong, dalton didnt even have many incompletions 

[lollygagger8]

18 minutes ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

Maybe it's time to realize that production is not merely about number of sacks?

 

 

Already realized. Sheard never jumped off the screen to me with a bunch of QB hurries though.  

 

I'll guess that Nelson's low grade wasn't all his fault either. Kelly and him were passing off linemen on stunts quite a bit and missed on a few. 

[Peterk2011]

On 9/13/2018 at 2:02 PM, aaron11 said:

or that pff can be wrong, dalton didnt even have many incompletions 

 

Pff can be wrong, but  production is not merely about number of sacks.