Colts are signing Justin Houston [Merge]

[The Oopty Oop]

Let's try pulling off the same deal, even a little more money for Suh and let's get ready to watch the show next season.

[CR91]

Just now, The Oopty Oop said:

Let's try pulling off the same deal, even a little more money for Suh and let's get ready to watch the show next season.

 

Suh is a UT not a NT. We already have Autry to play the UT

[BOTT]

Just now, The Oopty Oop said:

Let's try pulling off the same deal, even a little more money for Suh and let's get ready to watch the show next season.

Let us not

[NewColtsFan]

5 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Suh is a UT not a NT. We already have Autry to play the UT

 

You’re correct...    but in fairness, Suh actually did play the nose this season for the Rams.    

 

To the best of my knowledge,  first time in his career. 

[CR91]

Just now, NewColtsFan said:

 

You’re correct...    but in fairness, Suh actually did play the nose this season for the Rams.    

 

To the best of my knowledge,  first time in his career. 

 

We don't have an arron donald to make that work

[coltfaninnewyork]

Get crazy, this and 3 picks in first 59 in a great defensive draft .Im so fired up !!

[CR91]

Anyone else curious of what happens when Houston goes up against big Q. Oh boy

[Coltsman1788]

 

Love the sacks of Brady.  That is what I want to see. 

[BleedBlu8792]

42 minutes ago, chrisfarley said:

correct, he has had nagging knee injuries, also,  he's never played DE in a 4-3, and is 30 years-old, but Houston believes with his lower load of responsibilities at end, he could be effective.  Ballard played it smart with an aging veteran w/knee issues.....don't offer a long-term deal....keep it short-n-sweet.  I think we did ok with this one!

His knee injury was almost 3 years ago.. In the last 2 years he's logged over 2000 snaps and performed at a high level. Your right, he technically hasn't played as a 4-3 DE but he's played with his hand in the dirt ~70% of his snaps. We just made his job easier in that he won't be asked to drop in coverage like he's used to. 

 

 

[NewColtsFan]

25 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

We don't have an arron donald to make that work

No...   but he might make whoever we have next to him better than he’s been.

 

That’s possible. 

 

That said...   I’m nit interested in Suh in our locker room and on our sideline st all.   Don’t want him with the Colts.  

[CR91]

1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:

No...   but he might make whoever we have next to him better than he’s been.

 

That’s possible. 

 

That said...   I’m nit interested in Suh in our locker room and on our sideline st all.   Don’t want him with the Colts.  

 

Honestly I think he played the nose just because he wanted to play for the rams not because he wanted to play the nose. Hes a pass rusher not a run stopper

[Trueman]

Nice, hopefully that calms people down a bit. 

Good contract/character. 

Add him to the the rotation and keep building the DL. 

[oldunclemark]

57 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

Why do you say that? 

Because when you are as close as we are and have the money to spend that we do, you have to add veteran players to put you over (or near) the top. You have to. Or you will lose to teams that do add key vets. That's the way the NFL is now.

 

Nobody wins solely because of the draft anymore

Andrew is in his prime.   And we have the money to spend.

Let's pay the cost to be the boss.

[EastStreet]

21 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Anyone else curious of what happens when Houston goes up against big Q. Oh boy

 

My guess, they end up in a hot tub singing songs together.

[csmopar]

4 hours ago, zibby43 said:

 

And there’s splash every one has been waiting for. Wow! Color me surprised, just didn’t see this one coming. 

[csmopar]

32 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

 

Love the sacks of Brady.  That is what I want to see. 

I wanna see him and the maniac sack McDaniels!!

[NewColtsFan]

22 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Because when you are as close as we are and have the money to spend that we do, you have to add veteran players to put you over (or near) the top. You have to. Or you will lose to teams that do add key vets. That's the way the NFL is now.

 

Nobody wins solely because of the draft anymore

Andrew is in his prime.   And we have the money to spend.

Let's pay the cost to be the boss.

 

As Ballard has repeatedly noted since he arrived......

 

Teams that win Free Agency in March,  rarely do anything in September, October, November and December.    That's not 100 percent,  but it's far more the rule than the exception.    Teams spending big rarely get much bang for their free agent bucks....

 

That doesn't mean you ignore free agency....    it just means you don't go as crazy as a good number of teams have this off-season...

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, HectorRoberts said:

It really just seems to be 3 maybe 4 posters here that seem to always have something to whine about no matter what is.

That is why I earlier I said 99%  . There are just that 2 or 3 that would complain over anything . In all a great day though, most love this move.

[LockeDown]

 With Ballard, going young  is the rule and occasionally adding older veterans  as mentors. Hunt and the RG we had for a while are examples. So it’s not completely out of character. 

[IinD]

Definitely a solid pickup (hopefully of course)....I don't think we should equate this to a Cole type move. 

 

[Moe]

4 hours ago, Dustin said:

 

12m is a bargain for what edge rushers go for these days tnh. I think this is probably right in line with his value if he can manage 8-12 sacks

Where have you been?

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 hours ago, GwinnettColt said:

ahahaah!

 

What an upgrade over the previous administration.  (Won't mention names).

That is him staring down Grigson, saying you almost ruined one of the best QB's in the league. I came in and corrected the system and the Line in 2 years and now look 

[Colts_Fan12]

I've always been a big fan of Houston. Cant wait to see him in a colts uni for once! 

[Jdubu]

3 hours ago, BProland85 said:

 

I could still see Ballard drafting a great DT with that 1st round pick. Someone like Dexter Lawrence or Christian Wilkins. 

 

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Or even Tillery. I'd like Lawrence as my first option, Tillery/Wilkins

I am on the train for a huge Dexter Lawrence as the pick. Big space eater. 

 

2 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

...low risk...high reward

It means we're trying to win the conference THIS year,,and not overly concerned with  'building a team the right way'

I don’t agree this is a low risk, it’s a moderate risk with high reward. At 12 million per year, that’s not low risk and with his injury history and age , that’s at least creating a moderate risk in my mind. I’d also think Ballard isn’t thinking I’m hopeful he gets 5 sacks and everything past that is gravy. I’m assuming CB expects 10 sacks with plenty of disruptive pressures for that cash. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

This^ to my last Post 

[JPFolks]

2 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:

I will start by saying I like the move on a two year deal to add pass rush, a veteran presence in the locker room and a potential teacher of Turay, Lewis, Muhammad, Phillips, Winbush and whatever rookies are brought in.....plus it weakens a potential playoff opponent.

 

And now I will eat my crow as I thought Ballard would go younger versus older and never even considered him signing....

I understand your thinking... after everyone said we weren't looking for any stop gap players, this is certainly a stop gap player.  We all have no idea if we lost bidding wars on the few guys who were younger out there, and it might just be that he's realizing it is too big of a hole to leave bare and hope for something in the draft.  NOW we can STILL look for a pass rusher, and the pressure is less to reach too far to get one.  And if one doesn't appear, then we're not as bad off as we were.  Many of us would have reached out to a guy like Preston Smith, (who cost too much in the end) but he was never going to overpay.   In this case he apparently went with the lesser of two evils, stop gap versus overpay, he chose stop gap.   We may not need Houston full time (i.e. 60% or more) leaving lots of room for rotation and development of whoever we have in the cupboard when the season starts.  In that respect, it's great.  I think most of us would have wanted this deal, but like you and I am a little surprised he went there.  I am sure his direct experience with Justin didn't hurt at all.  There must have been a bidding war of sorts on him as I doubt we would have paid this much if we were bidding alone.  

[boogmanningluck]

I'm not that opposed to signing Suh for maybe a 2 year deal. Some nastiness on D like big Q on O. By the time his and Houston's deals are up the def. Will have been fortified and the money will be there to re up them.

[WoolMagnet]

Oh crap, what will the negative nancies complain about now?

i guess they still have Funchess.

[WoolMagnet]

5 hours ago, Mr.Debonair said:

How the heck does this guy keep things so quiet 

He's professional

[PrincetonTiger]

1 hour ago, LockeDown said:

 With Ballard, going young  is the rule and occasionally adding older veterans  as mentors. Hunt and the RG we had for a while are examples. So it’s not completely out of character. 

Matt Slausson 

[WoolMagnet]

5 hours ago, DougDew said:

I've liked most of Ballard's signings in the past, but this one seems a bit pricey. 

 

I don't know.  I haven't watched KC that much to tell how much Houston has left in the tank.  At that price, I hope we won't be thinking Trent Cole by mid season.

Oh god!

of course YOU do.

[indyagent17]

Ballard is patient, that's the key. Don't get caught up in the hype of burning up the cap in the first 10 minutes. Many teams fail at this time every year but I appreciate the coolness and collectivness of Ballard. Nice mive!

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, WoolMagnet said:

Oh god!

of course YOU do.

Read the thread, and all of my posts, as well as some others.  Overreaction doesn't wear well on you.

[crazycolt1]

 I bet Phillip Rivers is glad he is out of the AFC west.

Houston has made it rough on him the last few seasons.

[ColtsBlueFL]

6 hours ago, DougDew said:

I've liked most of Ballard's signings in the past, but this one seems a bit pricey. 

 

I think he was due $30+ million over the next two years.  This is notably less expensive, no question.

 

6 hours ago, DougDew said:

 

I don't know.  I haven't watched KC that much to tell how much Houston has left in the tank.  At that price, I hope we won't be thinking Trent Cole by mid season.

 

He has some gas, if he can stay healthy.  I still wonder how and how much Eberflus will use him.

 

I know I want him wide 9 at the very end of a game we are on defense leading by a touchdown, the rest of the snaps???

[DougDew]

1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

I think he was due $30+ million over the next two years.  This is notably less expensive, no question.

 

 

He has some gas, if he can stay healthy.  I still wonder how and how much Eberflus will use him.

 

I know I want him wide 9 at the very end of a game we are on defense leading by a touchdown, the rest of the snaps???

Yeah, my Trent Cole comment was harsh.  But I do think if we count on him to be the go to guy for pass rush we relied on Cole to bring every down every game, I'm not confident we'll see different results.

 

I think Houston's contract and statements reflect the notion that he'll be part of the rotation and used where most effective, so he will be managed better and have better results.

[ColtV]

2 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

Because when you are as close as we are and have the money to spend that we do, you have to add veteran players to put you over (or near) the top. You have to. Or you will lose to teams that do add key vets. That's the way the NFL is now.

 

Nobody wins solely because of the draft anymore

Andrew is in his prime.   And we have the money to spend.

Let's pay the cost to be the boss.

I'm backing this post entirely for the James Brown reference

[dw49]

4 hours ago, Colt Overseas said:

I guess the challenge long term is that Sheard, Autry, Hunt and Houston (ages 28-31) have all got either 1 or 2 years left on their contracts. I don't see any of them getting extensions. We have up and coming players like Turay, Lewis, Ward, etc. I expect Ballard to continue to invest in the d-line in the draft, particularly at DT, where it's a good class. 

 

IMO , we are in great shape as none of those players carry any dead money after 2019. The only player that won't have a contract going into 2020 is Sheard. So it boils down to we can cut any one of those player after this year with no cap hit while all but Shread will be under contract. 

[cbear]

I also wouldn't be opposed to Ballard packaging some picks to move up and get some real studs.  Maybe 5 picks instead of the 9, something like that.  Package the 1 and a 2 and move into the top 10 if a player he really likes is available, etc. 

 

I really think with the signings and improvement in players on the roster come next year, we can take some chances now. 

 

[ColtsBlueFL]

1 minute ago, DougDew said:

he'll be part of the rotation and used where most effective, so he will be managed better and have better results.

 

Yes, I think that too.  Special 3rd and more than 3-4 yards scenarios.

 

Where/when else? How much?