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  1. Myles, I think it really depends on Oladipo. How soon and how good is he when he comes back., If he's the old Victor, I think they could challenge for 3-5th. If he's just not the same, we'll be 6-8th and likely out in Round 1 again. And with little cap space going forward, it will be tough to do better than 4th-8th if the current team can't crack the top 3. On the other hand, if Vic comes back in December and plays well, we'll have the best defensive backcourt in the league. It might all come down to if Sabonis can defend a Power Forward out to the line and coexist effectually on Offense. They pretty much have to switch on O and D. Sabonis plays the 4 on Defense and the 5 on Offense and vice versa. To be honest, I am now way more excited about the Pacers than the Colts now.
  2. So, since nothing of interest is going on in football, who is excited to see the Pacers with their new lineup this year? Bueller? Bueller?
  3. I was just going off the guys draft night and afterwards saying Okafor is a back up option only and they want to upgrade C during free agency. I want nothing to do with Lonzo, but I am not sure who else other than Rubio or an outside shot at Russell likely for a max deal if he would even come here. I just don't like thinking about Rubio being here either. He's not young so he's not getting better. For that matter I'd rather they just resigned Collison, at least he rarely turned the ball over and on any given night he could step up with 20 points and he led the league in 3% two years ago. Not idea but better the "devil we know" than Rubio. I wanted Collison as the backup point to run it Sabonis for a powerful bench duo. I think Collison would thrive in that spot, but we don't have a better option than him to start, so there's that. He's neither a pass first guy like Pritchard said he wanted nor a shooter either way. He's kind of in the middle. If only he had Cory's D we could just stick with him. And Cory is NO starting PG. He proved that last year.
  4. To answer your last question, I think they are hoping Myles steps up. He'll either prove himself or end himself.... himself. Because I doubt any of our FAs come back outside or Bogdanovich, and that is only if we can at least be close to his best offer. He said he would come back if we were at least close to his best offer. But someone else will offer him the max or close to it. If we sign him at max, we are essentially out of money. I can't see the Pacers doing that. Even if we get to 80% of max, I am not sure the Pacers do it. We won't even be what we were last year without all the leadership present. But.. if Myles could step up to a 20+ scorer and let's say 8 rebounds and 3.5 blocks, and be a leader, then it might work out for him and for the Pacers. It might be too big of an ask, but he WAS co-captain after all, unless it was nonsense, some of his fellow players must have wanted that. As for Sabonis, it is my understand he is a FA next season, but perhaps it is restricted, I didn't think it was, but that would be a good thing if he was tied to us in some way. But we are not going to offer a giant payday. Next year I am unsure of who becomes a FA, perhaps you know or someone else does? He might be a high profile FA. I still think they might trade him, especially if it looks like our team isn't going anywhere this season which seems more and more likely by the day. If we trade him for a higher profile player (I asked about trading him for Lonzo Ball, I am not sure I would WANT that, but I could see some version of that happening. I am not a Lonzo fan, but he has made it clear through his father that he doesn't want to be in New Orleans, currently the smallest market in the league (we are 26th, not much better). But Pritchard DID say he wanted a pass first PG. No one fits that description more than Lonzo Ball. I just can't see him resigning with us if we got him somehow. But New Orleans desperately needs a solid young big man and I could see some type of a trade happening, if not with us, with someone else and Lonzo Ball if he really doesn't want to be there. I am not sure what other team needs a big or what we might get from them. We desperately need a serious Point Guard and a better off ball guard option to start while Victor is out. Anyone have any names to banter about for these other than Rubio?
  5. I think it is likely Sabonis is going to be traded. Maybe it will be Turner. Either way I doubt both are on the team past this season no matter what happens. So in a year, hopefully Goga will be ready to be the full time backup C to whoever we keep at that position. I think they are still hoping Turner will finally start scoring which I think is just a matter of shooting more often. He can hit 3s, mid range is also solid. But unless he gets some willpower, he's not going to be a rebounder. There is no excuse outside of that to explain his problem.
  6. So you think they ARE championship level or you can't read?
  7. yeah, it is hard to understand how he's so terrible at rebounding outside of him just not wanting it. When Sabonis is out there he does all the things a traditional Center used to do except block shots. He's got technique, and willpower, just not the needed athleticism. Turner I believe has the athleticism and even skill taught to him, but just no willpower. He can shoot well, he just chooses not to. Rebounding is almost entirely willpower. Sad. I have been on the support side of Turner but he's running out of excuses that his fans can make on his behalf. He could be a difference maker rather than a placeholder.
  8. I hope they have a better master plan than Ricky Rubio. If our starters include TJ Warren, Ricky Rubio, Myles Turner, a back up scoring guard who doesn't even exist yet, and either Sabonis at the 4 or a replacement like Harris, we will be fighting just to make the playoffs and will likely get swept out even if we do make it. That is not a winning team. That is a team that will have to over play yet again just to sniff .500, especially with Vic out at least the first part of the season in the best case scenario. I was disappointed like some others because they had Carsen Edwards, a low risk/high reward rookie, sitting there which could have been the answer at backup guard alongside Holiday for a super dynamic pair of guards that could also battle for more playing time along with Sumner with hopes one of them (more likely a combination of 2 or all 3 of them) starting the games that Vic will miss. One of those 3 guys would likely pop enough to play alongside Oladipo in the long term and the others being solid back up rotational guys. Perhaps they already think Holiday or Sumner can step up to fill Oladipo's shoes until he comes back in Dec/Jan. We don't even know if Oladipo will return anywhere near his former self. Now we're stuck with Warren and McDermott, two guys who can shoot when it means nothing, but have proven absolutely nothing when it matters. (Well, in my opinion, McDermott proved he can't hack it, can't play defense at all and all reports are that Warren doesn't play defense, shows no will to win and hasn't won anything on the worst team in the league where it is easy to put up 18 when your team is losing by 25. It's like garbage time stats in football all season for anyone on Phoenix's team. Fools gold. It seemed clear we're losing all 4 guys. At best we might be able to bring one back, but it won't be Bogdanovich, I figure he'll go to LA if they don't land a bigger name. He's likely a max player now and we can't sign one because of this Warren deal. I thought Pritchard looked good pre-season last year but all three of his free agents stunk up the place. Unless we can dump him, McDermott is stuck here this year. If they could clear his money somehow perhaps we could offer a max deal but it seems clear we're not getting a big name here. If we do sign Rubio, we're nearly out of money and we have what left? Money for an aging Thad? I like Sabonis as the 6th man. I think he excels there. He is the #1 reason we over competed all season because he elevated the bench above and beyond their individual abilities (likewise he significantly underwhelmed as a starter). If we could keep him happy in that role, then we have something. But how do we win games with Thad who plays like a WARRIOR with the talent he has, but his talent plus his age isn't enough. Perhaps we could squeeze a year out, but he doesn't SCORE enough. Turner sadly has all the skill but gets little out of it. He should be a 25/12 with 4 blocks a night guy. He gets the blocks sure, but his scoring is embarrassing with all that talent. He can hit threes, but he's afraid to take them enough to impact the scoreboard. This isn't the 80's we don't need a more agile Hibbert. He led the league in blocks but didn't seem to sniff All NBA Defense? I think I heard how rare it is for the league leading shot blocker to not get on the first or second team all Defense. Even with the overall tenacious defense the Pacers played as a team, he got no credit for it. Based on what this reality looks like: PG: ---------*, Sumner SG: Oladipo, Holiday SF: Warren, McDermott PF: Sabonis**, Leaf, Alize C: Turner, New Guy (sorry, still learning his name) *Ricky Rubio? DeAngelo Russell? **I just think he either needs to be traded or he has to be our 6th man/backup C to run the 2nd team and play as needed minutes with Turner if they can figure something out. (You know who desperately needs a C? New Orleans. Would you guys take Lonzo Ball for Sabonis?) If we sign Rubio, we have money for what exactly? A midlevel guy floating around? On the positive side, I actually thought Leaf really hustled. He's slow, but in some respects he had the tenacity that Turner is devoid of. And Alize was a monster in G league and he might be a surprise this season if he gets a fair shot at all. Holiday is a hustler and Sumner is likely a capable back up Guard as well. But are either starters? Not yet and not likely, at least not for a championship level team. Our new guy looks like a legitimate back up C in today's league. He needs to develop a shot, but I think he'll get those minutes that Pritchard and his staff seem to have already committed to. That's the most positive spin I can put on it. In this depressing new lineup we're getting smoked out of the playoffs and that is if we even compete for them. I could see us having an historically bad season if they can't get these guys playing out of their minds like they have the past 2 years. We had dedicated veteran guys and these kids are super raw as a group. Adding another guard already pushing 30 along with Oladipo also aging and injured and I just don't see us as any threat of any kind to anyone past the regular season. If you ADDED a full blown Star superior to Rubio, maybe it's better. Beal would be excellent but he won't be affordable or made available for what we could trade I don't think. Russell is my best hope in this spot. His name has bounced around the Pacers in rumors, but it could be absolutely nothing. But if Kyrie is going to Brooklyn, he might end up in Los Angeles. It might be the case that Rubio is simply the only guys available. And that is for a reason, and it is not a good one. Ending on a hopeful note, Pritchard did strongly suggest he amassed some picks to help with a trade. Russell is a FA as is Rubio, so who could he be trading for? Beal? There's always hope this time of the year.
  9. Can you guys explain some of the acronyms such as LTBE? Thanks.
  10. By the way, I thought Holmes looked pretty mediocre in his "highlight" reel. That was truly the best of his career's work?
  11. We don't need another receiver. We have the perfect lineup right now. Experience, talent and depth. Possession (Wayne) Speed (TY) Beast (Nicks) and huge upside still on Da'Rick and Brazille both. Whalen will likely fill in for any injuries before the season ends (unless someone snaps him up). I think they may look at Ward from North Ill if he's around or Yankey from Stanford on the line who could really help us at all 3 inside positions. Either of those guys would be huge in the bottom of the second. Brian
  12. I don't think he gets paid a dime actually.
  13. Our schedule is much tougher than people think this year. The NFC East will feast on our weakest division, which will build their confidence and their records which will keep them all far more engaged all season instead of phoning it in last season. The AFC North is ALSO going to be FAR better than last year. Each has made significant moves/or has high draft picks. The Bengals already beat us and I doubt they'll be good enough to win the division. The Steelers were on a major upswing to end the season and barely missed the playoffs (a missed late field goal by the Chargers kept them out I believe). We will have super tough games against the Steelers and Bengals no matter where we play them. The Ravens would be an even match if we play them there. Cleveland is a wild card in that with their (and our) draft picks, they could end up with the two best wideouts in the NFL, a stud for a quarterback and any number of Best Player Available types from a LOADED draft year. Every year we see teams go from worst to first and Cleveland could be one next year if they draft smart. We could be a coin flip in any of those 4 games and so at best we should expect 2-2. In the NFC East, Philadelphia will be a beast, the Cowboys will finally be back on track, the Redskins will come roaring back.... only the giants seems likely to be a win, but we always lose to a team we should beat, so catching them on the road might be a trap game. I could see us easily splitting 2-2 in that division. (Frankly, we could end up worse, or win one we shouldn't against a team like Philly). But lets take the middle 2-2. So now we are sitting 4-4. Next we have our own division. I think a sweep is possible, but all of those teams are drafting early in a loaded year. TN will be tough and Texas at home will too. Jacksonville is a possible trap game. We're going to lose at least one legit and one trap game in our division. So that means 4-2. So now we're 8-6. Who's left? Denver and New England. I think it is highly unlikely we beat either at their place. So with one being home and one away, let's call it even at 1-1. That makes us 9-7 for the Reg season and winners of our division which will finish worst again next year. At least one of those teams will also finish 9-7 but we'll win the tie-breaker and squeak into the playoffs. I am saying this with the assumption that we're BETTER than we were last year. Our schedule will be just as tough in reality as last year and though we may benefit from the right mix of home games to finish with a ceiling of 11-5, we could just as easily go 8-8 and miss the playoffs most likely to Texas who is LOADED with talent and will likely have Clowney to go along with the DPOY winner on the other side. Worst to first don't you know. I LOVE the Colts... but I watched every single NFL game twice or more last year and I am telling you, our schedule could be BRUTAL next year. Our biggest hope is a sweep of our division and an 11-5 record but with Denver and New England getting the #1-#2 seeds again and us losing in the exact same round having to play either team at home in the playoffs. With all that said above, one factor I left out was LUCK. (Both the man and the factor). I predict 10-6 or 11-5 (thanks to a reasonably healthy team AND Luck), Div winner, #4 seed to the North winner (who will feast on our division) to finish in #3. Most likely we'll make 2 trips out to Denver, once in the reg season and once in the playoffs. It would take a LUCK show to upset them either time. We'll either play Texas or a team from the AFC North in the first round, then either Denver or New England (who will have their injured players back with some new additions (CB's will be much tougher this year than last not to mention Gronk) depending on an upset happening in the other playoff game. We should win our first playoff game. Just my two cents. I hope I am wrong and we blow people away... but I think reality will show us a much tougher year even with a better, more experienced team.
  14. nope....he and Decker are both #2 receivers and neither solve our need for a solid #1 or possession in the realm of Wayne. Even if TY becomes the #1 in the vein of Marvin Harrison, either of these two guys would be a solid #2 but both want TOP #1 money. If they came with a #2 price tag, I would see both as huge upgrades over DHB whose career should be over in the NFL after his disgracefully bad season here. I want a receiver over all other positions, but I want a true #1 monster, not a nice but non-spectacular #2. If only we had a #1 pick this year and could trade up enough to get one of the monsters in this draft class to spend their career with Luck like Reggie or Marvin did with Manning. Luck deserves another top rate receiver to go with Hilton. Sure, defense wins championships, but with a much tougher schedule than anyone is giving us credit for this season (I think we have one of the toughest, not the easiest... those NFC East teams are going to be a nightmare for us to get past this year plus we have to play Denver, New England and Cincy, all three of which could easily beat us and don't think for a second that Pittsburgh won't regain form and be a 10-6 to 12-4 level team next year. We are going to have to outscore these teams and with the Texans likely to get back on the saddle, just winning our division is going to be a challenge again. TN may take one of two from us this year as well. We need a sure fire #1., I am not hearing much about Da'Rick this offseason and if he can step up to be a serious #1 or #2. Perhaps the coaches and Grigs are keeping that under wraps. If so, then I'd breath a little easier. I don't think Decker or Jones or Nicks solve any problems for us and certainly not for the money. We need a Center and CB/ILB/FS/SS in FA and with Luck, TY and our two tight ends needing to be resigned soon enough, there's just not enough money unless a true #1 monster is available in the draft after a tradeup or via an unforseen FA or trade opportunity.
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