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  1. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    We can agree to disagree, but neither of us has the responsibility for making that decision. Nor do we have access to the plethora of information concerning him, even those including medical and psychiatric results.
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    Nelson Fined for leading with helmet He was out in the open going 2nd level and lowered the helmet to initiate contact. As expressed early, that is the poster of the rule. They were going to call it from getting out of the stance! They have toned down the lowering helmet calls from pre-season levels, but it is still in the forefront to reduce/eliminate those plays from the game. Even with the down linemen. "It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. Contact does not have to be to an opponent’s head or neck area – lowering the head and initiating contact to an opponent’s torso, hips, and lower body, is also a foul. This rule applies anywhere on the field at any time." The NFL would have caught it anyway, here's a detailed look at ALL that goes on in NY during games, and it is not just challenge judgements, it's all play review in multi-angles- The takeaway- "One of the key aspects of the play-review process is that when a penalty is called on the field, it doesn't always lead to a fine from the league offices. But when a penalty is not called, a player still might pay. Hanks' verdicts from Week 6 are prime examples of this. Suh was fined $31,500 for his hit on Weeden, which wasn't flagged."
  3. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    I guess Ballard (with all of his scouts reports, pro player information, and phone calls) and certainly John Lynch doesn't feel as you do, or he would be on either Colts or 49'ers roster now. Because I listen to Mark Dominik, Phil Savage, and Bill Polian (All ex NFL team GM's) on NFL radio (satellite) and they all mention how they were always on the phone talking to each other (other GM's) discussing players, their character, potential trade deal specifics, and sometimes even just tossing out casual inquiries IE: "Say, do you ever see a time you might want to part with (player x) ?" They all do it, it is their job.
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    Le'Veon Bell

    Hmmm, I never said it did. You must be thinking of another posters replies. My statement is what it is. Someone will pay Bell, I just do not know how much and who. But the Steelers are not going to just let him just walk free without recouping something in return... if they can. And they will try. As far as how can they 'burn' the other NFL teams? They only way I can see is if they place the Transition tag on Bell (Steelers still have the negotiating rights to him). Let him hit the market and get a contract. If it doesn't have have massive front loaded guarantees, then match it and then place him on their roster, and also the trading block. Use him until you move him, so yes, there is a very slim chance Bell could be back on the Steelers team. If the market driven contract does have massive amounts of front loaded cash guarantees, then they may (or not) have possibly hampered the finances of the acquiring team more than if Bell was a straight UFA negotiating a long term deal. Otherwise, I agree (if that is your position), there is no 'burning' of the NFL. EDIT: Timeline for people regarding Bell. Steelers have exclusive negotiating rights to Bell until March 11, 2019 (after which Bell becomes a UFA, if he is not tagged as below) Franchise/Transition tag period is from Feb. 19 to March 5 in 2019
  5. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    49'ers GM John Lynch sums it up- "He’s a guy that our coaching staff had had history with," Lynch said. "They were with him in Cleveland, so they knew the player very well, but obviously an unbelievable talent, obviously had a lot of issues. You try to weigh that, and you kind of have to say ‘Okay, what’s it worth,’ number one. Number two, we’ve got a really good thing in our building in terms of the guys and the type of guys we’ve got in here, and do you want to mess with that? So, I think in that situation, like any situation, if there’s a chance to improve your team, you always look into it. But in certain situations, particularly when you have knowledge of a player, you sit back and you weigh it. Sometimes it’s intriguing, but then sometimes, particularly when you have knowledge of someone, the more you look into it, you know what? We’re going to stay away from that." As of now does not sound like there is any off field issue to prevent another team from signing Josh Gordon. Browns reached a point where they could no longer trust the troubled WR, I'm told. — Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) September 15, 2018 Peter King: “I was not high on it at all,” he said. “The history of Josh Gordon is beyond riddled with off-field issues, substance abuse, consistently letting the team down that drafted him and continually, time after time showed faith in him and brought him back – I thought it was a bad trade quite honestly. The Patriots might get something good out of him, and if they don’t get anything good out of him then it is almost nothing ventured nothing gained. The Patriots are a proud franchise, and I realize what I am saying is a little bit of idealistic crapola, but the Patriots should not be in business with Josh Gordon. He is not worthy of this franchise.” OTOH, if any team or any people could make it work, it would likely be Belichick and Brady, IMHO. Coaches move around in this league. They know each other, and they will call each other. They are not always trying to 'con' others. They will often honestly discuss players and issues. Pat Kirwan mentions on his radio show how he did so many times when employed by NFL team(s). He still has good relations with coaches/GM's still working in the NFL.
  6. ColtsBlueFL

    Le'Veon Bell

    Yes, he is done with Pittsburgh for the most part. But do not underestimate their front office and legal team. They will look for anything/everything possible to recoup some value from losing him. And not just seeing if they don't sign enough free agents to get a future #3 comp pick because of it. The talk has died down for now, but wait until/by January/February time frame. Major grievances filed by the Steelers and the NFLPA will be in full swing.
  7. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    Chris Ballard has stocked the locker room full of high character players. But I recall he has also said is he's not against giving players, especially those who are still in the prime of their careers, another opportunity. That's where Brian Decker comes in (as well as evaluation other options we've already had). Let's hope. Quote from Jalen- "I really don't have a lot of chances and I've learned from my experiences," Collins said Thursday. "Did my time and just ready to get going. I never thought (football) was over, but I knew that the things I've been through kind of hurt my chances and I'm definitely grateful for this opportunity," Agreed, and he knows if he makes another PES mistake (or even just some THC), then after a 2 year ban, his chances to return are infinitesimally small. Exactly. And... Ballard brought in Marcus Peters (Via GM John Dorsey, using draft capital too) to the Chiefs. Some excerpts about that from here: "Chris Ballard says everyone involved had to feel good enough about his growth since being dismissed from the Washington Huskies football team. ... “I said, ‘I’m going; I’m going to Oakland,’” Ballard said. “And I went and spent a day and a half with him, his parents, met his family, and we got very comfortable with the situation and I came back and said, ‘John (Dorsey), we’ll be fine. Marcus is a good guy.’” Between Ballard and Brian Decker (who Ballard has said player(s) must pass his character evaluation before they are signed), I feel they don't believe he will be a negative influence in the locker room. It's Collins last real shot to use his talents to make it in the NFL. Can he resist juicing and just develop his own talents? Unfortunately for him, He will be tested very often. He can't even smoke weed with the other team mates (that have never failed a drug test previously) for pain relief. He has a very narrow path. I hope he can walk it.
  8. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    Nope- “Any player under contract to a Club as a Practice Squad player shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club at any time during the League Year, to serve as a player on any Club’s Active or Inactive List, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign such a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period, except that such player shall not be permitted to sign a Player Contract with another Club to serve as a Practice Squad player while under contract as a Practice Squad player.” Has to be to the teams 53 man roster (can be inactive), and the player gets automatic pay for a minimum of 3 weeks/games of the contract agreed to, whether he stays or quickly gets waived/cut.
  9. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    I mentioned something similar above. Only differences I see is he doesn’t have to be active on their 53 man roster for 3 weeks once signed, but he does get 3 game/weeks pay nevertheless, even if cut early. (Then is on waivers again)
  10. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    I don't think that is right. If another teams signs him, they must put him on the 53 man roster and pay him 3 weeks pay, even if they cut him very shortly after. Follow up EDIT: It is certainly not true. CBA Article 33, Section 2, paragraph 1 says it all. I spell it out in a post further down.
  11. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    "In 2016, the NFL adopted a modification to the practice squad rules that allows up to four players per practice squad to have two accrued seasons, making it easier for teams to have experienced players on their practice squad." {excerpt from } It's been awhile since his last meaningful game played. (Falcons -Patriots Super Bowl) Practice squad players can make no less than $7,600 per week (but more is ok if agreed upon). But if player is called to the 53 man roster, he gets paid the NFL contract amount agreed upon.
  12. ColtsBlueFL

    Le'Veon Bell

    Well.... excluding the 14.5 mil part, there is another example- "The Redskins opted to designate Gilbert as their franchise player. According to a November 1997 report by the Associated Press, the designation would have entitled him to the average of the top five salaries of defensive tackles at the time ($2.9 million). In addition, the Redskins offered Gilbert a five-year contract with an average of $3.6 million a year and a $5 million bonus. But Gilbert balked at the deal, as he sought $4.5 million per season. Unable to come to terms with the Redskins, Gilbert dug his feet in and proceeded to sit out the entire 1997 season. When the Redskins attempted to franchise him once again after the season, Gilbert objected further, and the situation led to an all-day arbitration in court between the NFL and NFL Player's Association to try and resolve the matter. Much like Bell, Gilbert became persona non grata in Washington D.C. - A "selfish" player with a "me-first" attitude. Eventually, Gilbert ended up getting what he sought: A trade from the Redskins to the Carolina Panthers, who offered him a big, fat, seven-year, $46.5 million deal." A pro-bowl player has sat before to get what he wants is the point. As far as injury, he is going after a huge contract in guaranteed money (which Steelers were very short on). Thus he will get that huge sum as an up front lump payment. And it doesn't have to be returned if injured on the field or team duties. The team will spread that lump out over his contract duration for yearly salary cap (accounting) purposes.
  13. ColtsBlueFL

    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    It's not a character issue in a typical sense, OTOH,it's an unauthorized competitive advantage, one the NFL takes very seriously. They can, and do, test any player all year for PES. From my understanding Collins has been suspended 4 times in last 3 years for both substance and PES abuse. Twice for 4 games, twice for 10 games. His last game was in the Super Bowl vs. the Pats. My understanding is a 3rd PES violation could result in a 2 year (minimum) ban. Point being what were those 2 different 10 game suspensions for? Anyway, he's on the practice squad-
  14. ColtsBlueFL

    Chiefs Rams game moved from Mexico City to LA

    Well, they played 'futball' on the field since that concert, in very bad conditions. It goes way back according to these reports-
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    Colts work out Jalen Collins

    Ballard has said any FA would have to pass with support from this guy- Colts director of player development: "So when we’re looking at [players], he’s not going to look at the talent base, he’s going to look at the character base and then help us make decisions on what we can handle."