Ryan Kelly and Mo Cox officially on the trade block/will be released

[Indeee]

RYAN KELLYC, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports Colts C Ryan Kelly could be traded or released by the team.

Kelly signed a four-year, $50 million extension with the Colts prior to the 2020 season and carries cap hits of $12.375 and $14.625 million over the next two seasons. A three-time Pro Bowler, Kelly allowed a career-high five sacks last season after allowing just seven sacks through his first six years in the league. One of several struggling members along the Colts' offensive line, the Colts could save $7.875 million against the cap with a pre-June 1st release of Kelly.

SOURCE: ESPN

Mar 12, 2023, 12:00 PM ET

 

Cox mentioned in Fowler report via stampedeblue

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Coltsbluefan]

What could we get in a trade for those guys?

[Mr. Irrelevant]

3 minutes ago, Coltsbluefan said:

What could we get in a trade for those guys?

4th for Kelly if we are lucky. Mo will just be released is my guess.

[RollerColt]

The Titans have a need at center, but I’m guessing they’re going to look to the draft.

[RollerColt]

https://www.stampedeblue.com/platform/amp/2023/3/12/23636275/colts-center-ryan-kelly-tight-end-mo-alie-cox-reported-to-be-on-trade-or-cut-block
 

Here’s the link. 

[PRnum1]

Moes best season under Rivers.

 

He looked like a young Antonio Gates

[throwing BBZ]

This is promising news.

Doing some "dirty work" ridding ourselves of inadequate performers is not a Ballard strength. 

 Neither of them are up to the tasks that Steichen's offense requires.

 IMO, Steichen will be influencing Ballard a great deal, which should make Ballards drafting look wiser in time.

[Indyfan4life]

I’d really hate to see Kelly go, but I think it’s time. 

[JediXMan]

These moves make sense. Colts have good TE depth and Kelly hasn’t been good for the last few years

[Shepman]

How do we know that Reich wasn't protecting all these players vs Ballard not moving them? Would love to be a fly on the wall when these things are discussed.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Arizona needs a center. Just saying.

[richard pallo]

I think Ballard will release both by the start of FA.  I don’t think either will be traded.  Teams can wait for the release and negotiate a better contract.

[Shive]

20 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I think Ballard will release both by the start of FA.  I don’t think either will be traded.  Teams can wait for the release and negotiate a better contract.

A team could trade a late round pick to guarantee they get the player or they could take the chance in FA that said player actually chooses to sign with their team for the contract they're offering.

[GoColts8818]

Tiny clarity.  The story says COULD be released not that they will be.  With that said I expect that they will be released if trades can’t be found. 

[jblastick]

Assuming you can’t trade any of these guys (and I doubt they will) cut Kelly, Cox, Ryan, Foles and Kenny and get $37.5m of cap space.  

[chad72]

36 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Arizona needs a center. Just saying.

A 3rd and Kelly to move to No.3???

[richard pallo]

Just now, jblastick said:

Assuming you can’t trade any of these guys (and I doubt they will) cut Kelly, Cox, Ryan, Foles and Kenny and get $37.5m of cap space.  

Kenny is the only one imo who could fetch something.  

[richard pallo]

Just now, chad72 said:

A 3rd and Kelly to move to No.3???

You would think we would have offered that by now.  Probably don’t want his cap hit.

[IndyD4U]

Soo……My wife and Kelly’s wife are friends. They re-homed their puppy last week because they didn’t expect to be here much longer. 
 

I can see Mo getting cut

[richard pallo]

1 minute ago, IndyD4U said:

Soo……My wife and Kelly’s wife are friends. They re-homed their puppy last week because they didn’t expect to be here much longer. 
 

I can see Mo getting cut

The Kelly’s obviously know he’s being traded or released.

[CR91]

Not surprised with Kelly. Not sure what you'd get for him though. A 6th round pick is probably the ceiling. MAC I guess you can see if Reich wants a reunion.

[jblastick]

18 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Kenny is the only one imo who could fetch something.  

It’d be nice but considering Ramsey just got traded for a 3rd rounder (probably mostly because the dolphins picked up a huge salary), I’d have to believe Kenny would only get us a 5th (better than nothing though)

[Tsarquise]

21 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

Soo……My wife and Kelly’s wife are friends. They re-homed their puppy last week because they didn’t expect to be here much longer. 
 

I can see Mo getting cut

Wouldn't you just bring the puppy along where ever you go?

[Patrick Miller]

Honestly, Kelly and Cox have been mediocre to bad. I’m hoping we can get something out of them instead of just releasing.

[csmopar]

Wow, I’m a bit surprised . 
 

not that I didn’t think they should, absolutely they needed to go this path. I’m just a bit surprised that they actually are. 

[ColtsLegacy]

2 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

I’d really hate to see Kelly go, but...

 

... But we'd all love to watch him leave.

[Moosejawcolt]

1 hour ago, IndyD4U said:

Soo……My wife and Kelly’s wife are friends. They re-homed their puppy last week because they didn’t expect to be here much longer. 
 

I can see Mo getting cut

So why would an NFL millionaire  rehome his  puppy?? Just saying don't beleive u.

[Colt Overseas]

I have to agree with both these potential moves. Both players just simply aren't playing to their contact values. Plus, they are not premium positions, you can find adequate replacements in the draft and free agency without using much capital.

 

Hopefully this is the season we see Ballard really start to reconstruct his roster were the major investments are being made in the areas of the field that effect the game more.

[Hawkeyecolt]

2 hours ago, chad72 said:

A 3rd and Kelly to move to No.3???

Kelly alone isn’t worth diddly-poo as Jim Mora would say. They would be lucky to get a 6th.  Two 3rds, Moore and Kelly is what I would give them at the most.  Moore played for their new HC and their center just retired.  It provides the Colts with a lot of cap relief. I’m not sure anyone will actually want Kelly though. 
 

I’ve seen a couple different articles speculating it would cost the Colts a three this year and a two next year to move up. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 hours ago, IndyD4U said:

Soo……My wife and Kelly’s wife are friends. They re-homed their puppy last week because they didn’t expect to be here much longer. 
 

I can see Mo getting cut

Why would they re home  their  puppy. You don’t just get rid of animals because you move.

[richard pallo]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Why would they re home  their  puppy. You don’t just get rid of animals because you move.

An adult dog they would bring but a puppy is a lot more work and if you’re going through a relocation they might not want to go through that as well.  I could see it.  

[Patrick Miller]

10 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Why would they re home  their  puppy. You don’t just get rid of animals because you move.

Unfortunately people do. I sure as heck wouldn’t because my animals are like family.

[chad72]

12 minutes ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Kelly alone isn’t worth diddly-poo as Jim Mora would say. They would be lucky to get a 6th.  Two 3rds, Moore and Kelly is what I would give them at the most.  Moore played for their new HC and their center just retired.  It provides the Colts with a lot of cap relief. I’m not sure anyone will actually want Kelly though. 
 

I’ve seen a couple different articles speculating it would cost the Colts a three this year and a two next year to move up. 

I think they should do the future 3rd, current 3rd and Moore and/or Kelly for the move if necessary.

 

Having next year’s first rounder intact should help us manufacture an additional 2nd or 3rd by moving down in 2024, which is Ballard’s ammo typically.

[AKB]

i don't really see the point of trading Kelly while his value is bottomed out. 

 

but i guess it's fine if they can replace him with another starter. 

 

I think a rookie center with a rookie QB would not be good. 

[Scott Pennock]

Ain’t nobody gonna trade for either player…..

 

If either does I’d eat my own shoe……

 

lol

[NewColtsFan]

1 minute ago, AustinnKaine said:

i don't really see the point of trading Kelly while his value is bottomed out. 

 

but i guess it's fine if they can replace him with another starter. 

 

I think a rookie center with a rookie QB would not be good. 

The point is to free up cap space.   Currently, this is the least cap space the Colts have had under Chris Ballard.   

[coming on strong]

3 hours ago, richard pallo said:

I think Ballard will release both by the start of FA.  I don’t think either will be traded.  Teams can wait for the release and negotiate a better contract.

i would offer teams a draft pick to take kellys salary  . maybe a 5th round pick to pick up the 12 million in cap hit  or a 4th

[chad72]

7 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

i don't really see the point of trading Kelly while his value is bottomed out. 

 

but i guess it's fine if they can replace him with another starter. 

 

I think a rookie center with a rookie QB would not be good. 

Hmmm…Jeff Saturday came a year after Peyton, he was undrafted. Ryan Kelly was drafted well after Luck, he was a first rounder.
 

I think a rookie QB with a rookie center concept is being made bigger than it is. You need a capable QB and plenty of reps. Plus journeymen centers pitched in for Andrew Luck earlier. Just need a good one. Plus Pinter has outplayed Kelly at center the last 2 years whenever he spelled him.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, Moosejawcolt said:

So why would an NFL millionaire  rehome his  puppy?? Just saying don't beleive u.

A poster says his wife and a players wife are friends.   He shares inside info.   And you respond that you don’t believe the poster?!?    
 

Why would he makes this up?  Who would lie over something like re-homing a puppy?    Why wouldn’t you believe that poster?  

[Defjamz26]

As expected. MAC will be released because I can’t really see him having much trade value. Unless Reich or Flus would be interested in him as a package with either Kelly or Moore, who I also expect to be made available.

 

I wonder if Arizona would do Moore (relationship with Gannon) and Kelly for their 3rd. Maybe be throw in a pick too.

 

Kelly had a crazy fall off too. He was a top 5 center at one point but these past two seasons it’s like he fell off a cliff.