2013 draft class completely gone now

[CR91]

Thornton signed with the falcons

[PeterBowman]

that draft class set back a lot of teams.

[NannyMcafee]

Say it ain't so hughie! 

[CR91]

2 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

that draft class set back a lot of teams.

 

Definitely one of the worst first rounds in recent memory

[Finball]

Applies to Jaguars too, if Denard Robinson isn't re-signed. And Titans if Daimion Stafford isn't re-signed.

 

Don't think Oakland, Buffalo, Miami and Cleveland have anyone left either (depending if some depth/special teamers aren't re-signed).

 

I'd think that's a record, 4 years after the draft. We at least didn't have our 2nd as we traded it for Vontae who we still have.

[Smonroe]

1 hour ago, CR91 said:

 

Definitely one of the worst first rounds in recent memory

 

Just goes to show that with all the analysis, combine, pro days, and total scrutinizing players, it's really a crap shoot in the end.

 

 

[Tracy Denton]

51 minutes ago, Finball said:

Applies to Jaguars too, if Denard Robinson isn't re-signed. And Titans if Daimion Stafford isn't re-signed.

 

Don't think Oakland, Buffalo, Miami and Cleveland have anyone left either (depending if some depth/special teamers aren't re-signed).

 

I'd think that's a record, 4 years after the draft. We at least didn't have our 2nd as we traded it for Vontae who we still have.

Add Denver to that list.

[21isSuperman]

The top 15 picks of that draft were absolutely awful

[DougDew]

Do you mean just the Colts or every team in the league...because the 2013 draft was a very poor one, league wide.

[MTC]

15 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

The top 15 picks of that draft were absolutely awful

 

Yep. However Tavon Austin, Star Lotulelei, Ezekiel Ansah, and Sheldon Richardson all turned out good.

[BOTT]

1 hour ago, MTC said:

 

Yep. However Tavon Austin, Star Lotulelei, Ezekiel Ansah, and Sheldon Richardson all turned out good.

Austin?  Not so much.

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, BOTT said:

Austin?  Not so much.

 

He'd say otherwise, on the basis of his $42m contract. His best season is 58 catches, 509 yards... 

[PrincetonTiger]

Everyone wants to forgot that draft

[aaron11]

mingo was from that draft lol

[MTC]

1 hour ago, BOTT said:

Austin?  Not so much.

 

He's getting paid like a good player.

[DalTXColtsFan]

EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon, Matt Barkley, Ryan Nassib, Landry Jones.  Those were the first 6 quarterbacks taken in that draft.

[jameszeigler834]

4 minutes ago, DalTXColtsFan said:

EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon, Matt Barkley, Ryan Nassib, Landry Jones.  Those were the first 6 quarterbacks taken in that draft.

Glennon is pretty good if he has time to throw with the bears he will do very good there and I think he is the best in that draft class the rest are terrible.

[lollygagger8]

Xaaaaaavier Rhoooooooodes.......sigh 

[TKnight24]

44 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

Xaaaaaavier Rhoooooooodes.......sigh 

Everytime I watch the Vikings or Texans play...... I just get angry knowing we had DeAndre Hopkins & Xavier Rhodes literally right there, and Grigson blew it

[UKColt13]

I still get slightly tearful thinking about picking Xavier Rhodes.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

On 3/21/2017 at 2:38 PM, Finball said:

Applies to Jaguars too, if Denard Robinson isn't re-signed. And Titans if Daimion Stafford isn't re-signed.

 

Don't think Oakland, Buffalo, Miami and Cleveland have anyone left either (depending if some depth/special teamers aren't re-signed).

 

I'd think that's a record, 4 years after the draft. We at least didn't have our 2nd as we traded it for Vontae who we still have.

 

My theory is that eventually, every single player from the 2013 draft will no longer be in the NFL.

[coltsfansince65]

23 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

The top 15 picks of that draft were absolutely awful

I sure hope this doesn't hold true for this years draft.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

8 hours ago, TKnight24 said:

Everytime I watch the Vikings or Texans play...... I just get angry knowing we had DeAndre Hopkins & Xavier Rhodes literally right there, and Grigson blew it

[21isSuperman]

21 hours ago, MTC said:

 

He's getting paid like a good player.

Getting paid doesn't always mean a player is good.  Some of the top paid players in the league last year included Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, and Sam Bradford, and none of them made the playoffs.  Poorly managed teams hand out big money to players who don't deserve it, which is part of the reason why they're poorly managed.  That's not to say any of the aforementioned players are bad, but rather just to illustrate my point that highly paid doesn't always mean good player

[Steamboat_Shaun]

9 hours ago, TKnight24 said:

Everytime I watch the Vikings or Texans play...... I just get angry knowing we had DeAndre Hopkins & Xavier Rhodes literally right there, and Grigson blew it

 

So in one of the worst draft classes in modern NFL history, you wish we would've taken a WR in the first round?

[Finball]

41 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

Getting paid doesn't always mean a player is good.  Some of the top paid players in the league last year included Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, and Sam Bradford, and none of them made the playoffs.  Poorly managed teams hand out big money to players who don't deserve it, which is part of the reason why they're poorly managed.  That's not to say any of the aforementioned players are bad, but rather just to illustrate my point that highly paid doesn't always mean good player

 

Yes, leverage is the biggest factor in getting paid.

[TKnight24]

1 hour ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

So in one of the worst draft classes in modern NFL history, you wish we would've taken a WR in the first round?

Absolutely. WR or the CB who was the teammate of the bum we drafted 

[Malakai432]

On 3/21/2017 at 9:42 PM, DalTXColtsFan said:

EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon, Matt Barkley, Ryan Nassib, Landry Jones.  Those were the first 6 quarterbacks taken in that draft.

 

Brutal.....

[COLTS449]

One of the biggest jokes of a draft in NFL history. Remember we could have had Xavier Rhodes and Brandon Williams........Like the real Brandon Williams. NT.

[COLTS449]

10 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

So in one of the worst draft classes in modern NFL history, you wish we would've taken a WR in the first round?

 

So you had rather not have Hopkins??? He's literally one of the best WR's in the NFL. Hopkins, Moncrief, and Hilton would be unstoppable. With that said I still think we're stupid as __ for passing on Rhodes.

[cdgacoltsfan]

7 hours ago, COLTS449 said:

 

So you had rather not have Hopkins??? He's literally one of the best WR's in the NFL. Hopkins, Moncrief, and Hilton would be unstoppable. With that said I still think we're stupid as __ for passing on Rhodes.

And the Vikings and Texans have done what since that draft?

[VaAllDay757]

I remember when some people around here were happy that we picked up bjorn werner lol

[Finball]

4 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

And the Vikings and Texans have done what since that draft?

 

Lack of team success doesn't mean that those two aren't very good football players, among the best at their respective position.

[COLTS449]

8 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

And the Vikings and Texans have done what since that draft?

 

 ......What?

[Boiler_Colt]

9 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

And the Vikings and Texans have done what since that draft?

Both have won their divisions

[NewColtsFan]

On 3/22/2017 at 3:26 PM, 21isSuperman said:

Getting paid doesn't always mean a player is good.  Some of the top paid players in the league last year included Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, and Sam Bradford, and none of them made the playoffs.  Poorly managed teams hand out big money to players who don't deserve it, which is part of the reason why they're poorly managed.  That's not to say any of the aforementioned players are bad, but rather just to illustrate my point that highly paid doesn't always mean good player

 

Well....    while I get your point in broad terms....   when it comes to the three QB's you listed,  I don't think you have much of an argument....

 

Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl and no one in the NFL thinks Baltimore is a bad team.

 

Carson Palmer is a QB you can win 10 games a year with and Arizona is a well run franchise under their current front office.

 

And Sam Bradford is another guy who is highly thought of and his biggest problem has been injuries,  less so the quality of his play.      And Minnesota is another well run franchise.

 

The problem is there are 32 teams and there are not 32 quality NFL quarterbacks.   That gives the most talented guys the most leverage.     You're better off over-paying them then not having a good QB on your roster.

 

If you can point to players who are not quarterbacks,  then I think you'll have a stronger argument......

 

 

[cdgacoltsfan]

14 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Both have won their divisions

So have the Colts. How many playoff wins have both teams had. Isn't that how you guys measure success?