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3 minutes ago, Barry Sears said:

 

Really?  I didn't know that.  So, if we can't decline, then what's the purpose of sending a request?  Kinda like, "this is the IRS...do you want to pay your taxes this year or not?"

 

I'm not questioning you, I know you know your stuff.

 

So, it is basically Eberflus's decision to interview or not?

 

 

Yeah, teams can't block assistant coaches from interviewing for head coaching jobs. But until the season ends, the interviewing team has to request permission from the current team, which allows the current team to coordinate the coach's absence for the interview. 

 

Here's a good primer: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/1/10/14038902/nfl-teams-hiring-new-head-coach-must-follow-rules

 

If Eberflus wants to interview for a head coach job, the Colts can't stop him. Nor should they be able to. Coaches should have the chance to advance their careers if they are presented with an opportunity. And usually coaches use the first interview to get better prepared for future opportunities, so even if he doesn't get the job -- which hopefully he doesn't, for the Colts sake -- he can use the experience to get ready for his next opportunity.

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7 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

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You think we can win a SB without Eberflus? He's responsible for turning our average players on defense into stars with his scheme. There's no replacing him. Without him, we're not winning anything. Ballard needs to beg him not to take that job. Eberflus masks the talent level on defense like crazy.

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

The biggest thing is we don’t need him distracted. WE need him concentrating on getting this defense ready for Saturday.

 

That  is why they can't interview until after the playoff game.  If we lose, Eberflus is free to interview for HC jobs anywhere. If Colts win, Browns must interview Matt in Indianapolis on the day of the Colts choosing.

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3 minutes ago, Tsarquise said:

Question is who takes his place if he leaves? And will there be an expected drop off in performance if he does? 

 

I have no idea. Ballard and Reich seem like a 'promote from within' kind of team, so I figure someone in the building would have a good shot at the job. Mike Phair knows this defense, has NFL experience, and goes back several years with Ballard.

 

But Eberflus was a hot commodity even before we hired him. He just never got a chance to be a coordinator because the Cowboys kept blocking him. I don't know if we have a guy with his stature.

 

I don't know if there would be a dropoff, because I'm hoping we have better personnel next year which would make up for losing him. But I'd rather not lose him.

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

You think we can win a SB without Eberflus? He's responsible for turning our average players on defense into stars with his scheme. There's no replacing him. Without him, we're not winning anything. Ballard needs to beg him not to take that job. Eberflus masks the talent level on defense like crazy.

 

Wow! This is a little extreme. I think that Eberflus has done an amazing job, but let's not act like the guy is the love child of Vince Lombardi and Bill Belichick. There are very few irreplaceable coaches and players in the history of sports. I seriously doubt that our future hinges solely on keeping him.

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3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

You think we can win a SB without Eberflus? He's responsible for turning our average players on defense into stars with his scheme. There's no replacing him. Without him, we're not winning anything. Ballard needs to beg him not to take that job. Eberflus masks the talent level on defense like crazy.

 

No one is irreplaceable. I'd rather keep him, but you're overreacting. 

 

And the reason I say that is because this has already been a great season for the Colts, and it's not over yet. It would take a lot more than losing Eberflus for this season to be ruined.

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I'm going to the casino. My day is ruined. I need a fix and the more I think about this, the more I want to start drinking or something (and I've never drank in my life). This is literally the worst possible news that could happen besides a career ending injury to Andrew Luck. Enjoy your day guys, I'm seriously in a bad place right now.

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9 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

You think we can win a SB without Eberflus? He's responsible for turning our average players on defense into stars with his scheme. There's no replacing him. Without him, we're not winning anything. Ballard needs to beg him not to take that job. Eberflus masks the talent level on defense like crazy.

The Browns have made about 10 other requests.  I wouldn't worry too much.

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I'm going to the casino. My day is ruined. I need a fix and the more I think about this, the more I want to start drinking or something (and I've never drank in my life). This is literally the worst possible news that could happen besides a career ending injury to Andrew Luck. Enjoy your day guys, I'm seriously in a bad place right now.

He isn't going anywhere. We are in the Playoffs so be happy, win some money brother and have fun :thmup:

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I'm going to the casino. My day is ruined. I need a fix and the more I think about this, the more I want to start drinking or something (and I've never drank in my life). This is literally the worst possible news that could happen besides a career ending injury to Andrew Luck. Enjoy your day guys, I'm seriously in a bad place right now.

 

Seriously -- and I'm being completely serious -- you should go talk with a good friend who will listen and help you. I know you struggle with things, and when you start swinging from one extreme to the other, you should get help right away.

 

Wishing the best for you. 

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28 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

This completely ruins this season for me if we lose him.

 

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Your overreactions are amusing.

 

Losing coordinators and assistant coaches to become head coaches for other teams is the mark of a well-run franchise, so get used to this happening on a regular basis.

 

Take an extra chill-pill and try to enjoy the ride, amigo!  :rock:

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Just now, Lucky Colts Fan said:

Losing coordinators and assistant coaches to become head coaches for other teams is the mark of a well-run franchise, so get used to this happening on a regular basis.

 

We often hear coaches and GMs say that when they start losing good players to free agency and cutting good players on cut day, that's when they know they've really started building something.

 

Same principle applies to the coaching staff. The Ravens had their staff poached every year for a long time, and several of those guys had success as NFL head coaches. It means you're hiring and developing good guys. It sucks losing those good guys, but it's a positive sign about the overall direction of your program.

 

Nobody wanted Manusky and Monachino...

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If we lose him I'm sure Ballard has some names in mind.  He seems to have a great feel for who is the best fit for the scheme he wants in place here. And he's got many years under his belt in this defense to know exactly who is the best fit .  Hopefully he stays though.

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4 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I'm going to the casino. My day is ruined. I need a fix and the more I think about this, the more I want to start drinking or something (and I've never drank in my life). This is literally the worst possible news that could happen besides a career ending injury to Andrew Luck. Enjoy your day guys, I'm seriously in a bad place right now.

 

C'mon man.  Take a deep breath.

 

This is a good sign.  Ballard is probably building an assembly line of future head coaches here.  We're going to be going through assistants and coordinators like New England has been doing for the last two decades.

 

It's the cost of success.  No big deal.  We've got the right guys in the right spots.  Ballard, Reich, and Luck aren't going anywhere.  :thmup:

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48 minutes ago, Barry Sears said:

We can always say NO to the request, right?

Yeah Irsay or Ballard could say no but IMO it is best to let Eberflus make that call.  If he felt the Colts were stopping him from getting a job he wants it might make him leave.

He may wait like Frank did last year. He wouldn't talk to anyone till the Eagles were done for the season?

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By the way, since we're all assuming Eberflus doesn't go anywhere this year, this will serve as notice to the Colts to be ready for any of their assistants to get poached in the future. We need to be prepared for who the next man up will be across the entire staff.

 

It's said that Ballard has 'binders full of coaches.' Let's see it.

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It’s inevitable that the Colts coordinators leave.

 

You can’t blame them for chasing their career dreams but you do wish that maybe the Colts could give them a raise or maybe they would decide to stay to chase that ever so evading Super Bowl.

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21 minutes ago, stitches said:

Eberflus not the only one drawing attention. According to Rapoport Colts OC Nick Siriani is on some teams' short lists too... 

 

 

 

Sirianni is a different story. I assume teams wanting to hire him are looking at him as OC, not HC. If that's the case, we can block that interview. (Rap's tweet isn't clear.)

 

It's also different because, with Reich running the offense, we won't be losing our primary play caller.

 

End of the day, I don't think either of them leave right now.

 

Edit: I guess it would be for HC, doesn't make sense that they'd be interviewing OC candidates right now.

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21 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

This is literally the worst possible news that could happen besides a career ending injury to Andrew Luck.

 

Don't jinx him!  But seriously, this shouldn't be that surprising.

 

And don't be surprised when other teams start poaching our best players, too.  We see it happen every year.  Players on really good teams get offers they can't refuse from other teams and leave in free agency.

 

It's not the end of the world.  Enjoy the success!  :colts:

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This was inevitable and quite frankly was essentially Ballard's vision.

 

Get this team to a place where our cut players or practice squad guys are so good that other teams are trying to grab them.

 

Get this team to a place where our coaches are so sought after that teams come calling for them due to their success.

 

This is a good thing.

 

I would hate to lose Flus. But this would also help attract other good candidates when they know they are joining a good team with exposure and an opportunity to showcase and move up the ranks.

 

I hope we get to keep our staff together for at least another year, but if not this is a step forward for the organization and not a step back in my humble opinion.

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Yeah Irsay or Ballard could say no but IMO it is best to let Eberflus make that call.  If he felt the Colts were stopping him from getting a job he wants it might make him leave.

He may wait like Frank did last year. He wouldn't talk to anyone till the Eagles were done for the season?

They can't refuse if they are offering the head coaching job 

1 hour ago, Barry Sears said:

We can always say NO to the request, right?

No

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1 hour ago, Superman said:

Wow.

 

The Colts didn't give up a hundred yard rusher all season (I thought Henry might break the streak last night, especially after that 33 yarder). 

 

They were at or near the top of the league in fewest big plays given up (I think that's kind of arbitrary because we gave up plenty of moderately big plays, but still). They created at least one turnover in all but one game.

 

About halfway through the season, the defense went from being one of the worst units in the league to one of the best, at least statistically speaking. We gave up 16.4 points/game over the last 10 games.

 

And we did this mostly with replacement level defensive talent.

 

I think the defense still has a long way to go, and while it's surprising that Eberflus is getting attention for head coaching positions, I can't say he's not deserving.

 

Hopefully, for his sake and ours, he doesn't go anywhere near the Browns. 

Gotta give it to the Browns for considering him.  IMO, I think he needs more experience as a coordinator to be considered a HC position.  It's not that he's not capable but at least be a coordinator for couple of years.  I would hate to see him bail and not succeed as a HC.

 

I hope the Colts give him a bonus or pay him to stay.

 

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7 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Why is everyone trying to pouch our coaches? Go after the chief, pat, saint, and ram coaches.

 

They already did. Nagy got the Bears job, the Pats assistants get looks every year, and LeFleur went to Tennessee. 

 

Good teams get poached.

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37 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

They can't refuse if they are offering the head coaching job 

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Yeah, that's right. I had forgotten about those rules.

Personally I hope Eberflus stays but if he wants a head coaching position the Browns might be the best one to take. That team is on the verge of being a real good team.

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