T-Rich not doing so well in Oakland?

[New Zealands #1 Colts Fan]

Trent Richardson really hits the open hole so well. pic.twitter.com/gqk6smjrOo

— CLEsportsTalk.net (@CLEsportsTalk)

August 15, 2015

 

Pretty embarrasing when you consider the ex rugby league player in the 49ers playing his first ever game of football saw a gap that big and managed to peel off a 53yd run .

[Narcosys]

https://twitter.com/CLEsportsTalk/status/632612119142252544

I think this is a stupid example. You see the left guard pull to the right and try to block the second level. He follows that guard like he is supposed to. But of course people who know nothing it seems, want to tall trash. (Not you). Does he gave poor field of vision, yes, but he follows the designed play.

[SteelCityColt]

There is no hole.

https://twitter.com/rolltidehaywood/status/632990631640584192

There's literally 2 linebackers to hit him for a loss there. The play was dead in the water regardless.

The RB is required to run behind the pulling guard on every power play. Football 101.

Please learn basic football and get back to me. I can recommend you some books if you want me too.

 

I hear you Dustin and thank you for explaining this so well. 

 

Sadly I still think T-Rich has the vision of a deaf bat when he steps on a football field. 

 

I might be going out on a limb here but every year very physically gifted players come into the NFL and don't pan out and it seems the oft tossed around reason is they "didn't get it" or it "didn't click" and I think this is very much the case for T-Rich. He never had that leap in his 2nd year, if anything he regressed horribly. 

[ruksak]

There is no hole.

https://twitter.com/rolltidehaywood/status/632990631640584192

There's literally 2 linebackers to hit him for a loss there. The play was dead in the water regardless.

The RB is required to run behind the pulling guard on every power play. Football 101.

Please learn basic football and get back to me. I can recommend you some books if you want me too.

How could that be a loss? Looks to me like the LOS is the 6 yard line. I get that he's waiting for the line to burst a crack for him, but the right side was clogged and over-matched awhile the gap to the left gave him a shot at the goal. 

 

He lacked the confidence to break the play and make a play. Same thing we saw here every game (that he bothered to show up for). If there's nothing there......there's nothing there, and he displays (time and time again) an inability to see that there's nothing there. 

 

He could easily have created a 1-on-1 with #54 by cutting back left. He had a blocker waiting at the goal line. Instead, he favored what appears to be a 7-on-4 disadvantage. 

 

Yes, the RB is required to follow the pull, but a RB is not required to do so if the pull is forfeit and collapses, while another avenue is present. 

[pacolts56]

There is no hole.

https://twitter.com/rolltidehaywood/status/632990631640584192

There's literally 2 linebackers to hit him for a loss there. The play was dead in the water regardless.

The RB is required to run behind the pulling guard on every power play. Football 101.

Please learn basic football and get back to me. I can recommend you some books if you want me too.

C'mon Dustin...now your making it sound like no RB in NFL history could have, would have or should have tried to cut back and score on that play.

This is Trent Richardson we're talking about.That's the distinction here and many of us are seeing it thru that lens.

Don't you think that Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch and other RBs not only may have recognized the failing execution of those blocks, but may very well have cut back and trampled that impenetrable Dick Butkus-like monster LB you noted in the wider shot of the play?

After all...Colts fans are very familiar with the narrative that other Colts RBs were able to outproduce Richardson behind the very same inconsistent runblocking, right?

The point is that Trent Richardson has shown no anticipation, creativity or vision to recognize the better option when his runblocking breaks down.

That doesn't mean other RBs can't or shouldn't.

[Dustin]

This is Trent Richardson we're talking about.That's the distinction here and many of us are seeing it thru that lens.

 

And this is the problem. Because it's Trent Richardson nobody will question a heavily edited vine screenshot of a play where you cant even see the hash-marks. 

[Dustin]

How could that be a loss? Looks to me like the LOS is the 6 yard line. I get that he's waiting for the line to burst a crack for him, but the right side was clogged and over-matched awhile the gap to the left gave him a shot at the goal. 

 

He lacked the confidence to break the play and make a play. Same thing we saw here every game (that he bothered to show up for). If there's nothing there......there's nothing there, and he displays (time and time again) an inability to see that there's nothing there. 

 

He could easily have created a 1-on-1 with #54 by cutting back left. He had a blocker waiting at the goal line. Instead, he favored what appears to be a 7-on-4 disadvantage. 

 

Yes, the RB is required to follow the pull, but a RB is not required to do so if the pull is forfeit and collapses, while another avenue is present. 

 

This isn't Madden where you can just cut and reach your top-speed instantly. The LB was already moving forward in the still-shot and by the time Richardson would have started his cut-back the LB would already be on him and the other LB to to the left would have sealed the gap regardless if Richardson could of somehow won a 1-on-1 against a LB with all of the momentum. 

 

This play, like I said, was dead in the water from the beginning. There was no good choice. Bu at least we've moved on from pretending he missed a sure touchdown and accepted that best case scenario would have been a gain of 1. 

[bababooey]

Are we still dealing with him? I know Florio tried to paint us as the bad guy for cutting him since his excuse to miss practice was that his pregnant girlfriend was in the hospital for emergency. Does anyone know what happened?

[Gavin]

This isn't Madden where you can just cut and reach your top-speed instantly. The LB was already moving forward in the still-shot and by the time Richardson would have started his cut-back the LB would already be on him and the other LB to to the left would have sealed the gap regardless if Richardson could of somehow won a 1-on-1 against a LB with all of the momentum. 

 

This play, like I said, was dead in the water from the beginning. There was no good choice. Bu at least we've moved on from pretending he missed a sure touchdown and accepted that best case scenario would have been a gain of 1. 

This exactly how it happened, He was going right from the beginning, By the time the hole opened he had done commited. The linebacker was moving to the hole and would have been there by the time he cut back and would have had the hole filled

[RockThatBlue]

he will. 1000 yrds plus with a different system, our loss

You must be on some heavy drugs. Trent would be lucky to get 500 yards, let alone a 1000 yards lmao

[RockThatBlue]

https://twitter.com/CLEsportsTalk/status/632612119142252544

That hole looks big enough to drive a car through it.

[RockThatBlue]

Outstanding vision that guy has...

I'm seriously wondering if he is partially blind or something. How on earth do you not see a hole that big?

[Gavin]

That hole looks big enough to drive a car through it.

It was for all of about a second. but the linebacker was closing in on the hole and would have been there by the time Richardson cut back because the linebacker was shadowing Richardson movements, He would have gained maybe 2-3 yards             

[RockThatBlue]

It was for all of about a second. but the linebacker was closing in on the hole and would have been there by the time Richardson cut back because the linebacker was shadowing Richardson movements, He would have gained maybe 2-3 yards

2-3 yards looks better than what he gained.

[Gavin]

2-3 yards looks better than what he gained.

He actually gained 2 yards

[csmopar]

So your suggestion is that he should've avoided the hole (your word not mine) and instead crumpled harmlessly into the back of his lineman's calf?

 

You aren't a RB coach, are you? 

yep....trent richardson's

[pacolts56]

And this is the problem. Because it's Trent Richardson nobody will question a heavily edited vine screenshot of a play where you cant even see the hash-marks.

Fair enough.....I hadn't seen that wider shot initially, but I still believe a lot of RBs other than Richardson could have turned that play into a positive gain and even banged it in for a TD.

[Dustin]

2-3 yards looks better than what he gained.

 

 

He actually gained 2 yards

 

This pretty much sums up this thread perfectly. 

[The Fish]

No reason to insult potatoes like that

Don't potatoes have lots of eyes?

 

Dude is a regular rolling ball of cookie dough.

[Gavin]

Fair enough.....I hadn't seen that wider shot initially, but I still believe a lot of RBs other than Richardson could have turned that play into a positive gain and even banged it in for a TD.

I will concede he should have taken his chances doing that(Had he looked that way). Also this is a guy who drove me nuts getting ankle tackled while here in Indy

[chad72]

Fair enough.....I hadn't seen that wider shot initially, but I still believe a lot of RBs other than Richardson could have turned that play into a positive gain and even banged it in for a TD.

 

If his forte is power and not vision, he should take the cut back and see if he can put the LB on his heels. Both of them have momentum and Trent's momentum with his power may have gotten him an edge but just like this one and many other situations, we will never know.

[ruksak]

This isn't Madden where you can just cut and reach your top-speed instantly. 

I deserve that for making the RB coach wisecrack. 

 

That being said, I've watched football for approx 37 years, and I feel I have a good eye. That doesn't mean I'm always right, of course. 

 

 

 

The LB was already moving forward in the still-shot and by the time Richardson would have started his cut-back the LB would already be on him and the other LB to to the left would have sealed the gap regardless if Richardson could of somehow won a 1-on-1 against a LB with all of the momentum. 

Anything either of us say to this end is purely speculative. My issue is that this is typical of him, to not see the blocking breakdown, to not take a chance, to just run himself into the ground as opposed to challenging a free defender. 

 

He had a chance to make a play, and he (again) chooses to do what he is told and forfeit the play safely for a nominal gain. Your NFL acumen is high enough that you're aware this isn't a league for the timid. Players have to take chances if they want to be in the league more than 3-4 years, or at all for that matter. 

 

I feel he's been so beaten down by criticism, by failure, he's now afraid to let his instinct flourish. 

[chad72]

I will concede he should have taken his chances doing that(Had he looked that way). Also this is a guy who drove me nuts getting ankle tackled while here in Indy

 

It seemed like Donald Brown was just as bad with the ankle tackles. Mike Hart, as slow as he was, was elusive and made the first guy miss which DB couldn't despite having a better straight line speed. You can't teach elusiveness and vision for an RB, either you have it and improvize or you don't, it seems like.

[Gavin]

It seemed like Donald Brown was just as bad with the ankle tackles. Mike Hart, as slow as he was, was elusive and made the first guy miss which DB couldn't despite having a better straight line speed. You can't teach elusiveness and vision for an RB, either you have it and improvize or you don't, it seems like.

Slow to the hole burst through the hole, This allows time for O Linemen to set up blocks and you don't run up the back of them, First hole you see you burst through regardless of play design, That's what separates running backs who make it and those that don't, Richardson has all the physical tools to be a top running back in the league but mentally its just not there

[Superman]

I hear you Dustin and thank you for explaining this so well. 

 

Sadly I still think T-Rich has the vision of a deaf bat when he steps on a football field. 

 

I might be going out on a limb here but every year very physically gifted players come into the NFL and don't pan out and it seems the oft tossed around reason is they "didn't get it" or it "didn't click" and I think this is very much the case for T-Rich. He never had that leap in his 2nd year, if anything he regressed horribly. 

 

Dustin's right, the play was designed to go that way, and that wouldn't have been a good cut back.

 

But Richardson still has terrible vision, and showed no burst. I've watched all his carries from that game, and while he had a couple of decent gains, he still looks slow and uncertain most of the time.

[RockThatBlue]

This pretty much sums up this thread perfectly.

Good.

[backshoulderfade]

Had a good chuckle at the comments on this video.

[Malakai432]

Trent Richardson must be of German heritage, because that dude is a Not See.

I see what you did there!!

[ruksak]

Had a good chuckle at the comments on this video.

Here's my video highlight of Trent's 2014 playoff performance;

[SteelCityColt]

You know given his physical size and strength I'm surprised the Raiders haven't tried him at Sam backer.....

 

After all there hasn't been a better run stopped in the NFL over the least 2 seasons

[ReMeDy]

"Through three preseason contests, Richardson has 42 yards on 15 carries (2.80 YPC). Taiwan Jones, Roy Helu, and Marcel Reece all look like better options to back up Latavius Murray... After Richardson's night was done, the San Francisco Chronicle's Vic Tafur guessed T-Rich has toted the rock for his final time as a Raider."
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7462/trent-richardson

I agree. I think he's done. He does have $600,000 in guaranteed money, so if there's any reason they don't cut him, I'd imagine it's because of that. Maybe put him in as some kind of FB hybrid, or a 2-pt specialist, but I doubt it.

[dw49]

"Through three preseason contests, Richardson has 42 yards on 15 carries (2.80 YPC). Taiwan Jones, Roy Helu, and Marcel Reece all look like better options to back up Latavius Murray... After Richardson's night was done, the San Francisco Chronicle's Vic Tafur guessed T-Rich has toted the rock for his final time as a Raider."

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7462/trent-richardson

I agree. I think he's done. He does have $600,000 in guaranteed money, so if there's any reason they don't cut him, I'd imagine it's because of that. Maybe put him in as some kind of FB hybrid, or a 2-pt specialist, but I doubt it.

 

 

His contract , at least the way I read it , would tend to get him cut rather than retained . If he's cut , the only thing he receives is the 600K roster bonus If he is retained , he receives another 1,275, 000 in compensation. So if he's cut , they save that 1.27 mill.

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

Not surprising.  He has the vision of potato.

This is true a rotten potato!!

[21isSuperman]

You know given his physical size and strength I'm surprised the Raiders haven't tried him at Sam backer.....

 

After all there hasn't been a better run stopped in the NFL over the least 2 seasons

Ha!  Zing!

[Coffeedrinker]

"Through three preseason contests, Richardson has 42 yards on 15 carries (2.80 YPC). Taiwan Jones, Roy Helu, and Marcel Reece all look like better options to back up Latavius Murray... After Richardson's night was done, the San Francisco Chronicle's Vic Tafur guessed T-Rich has toted the rock for his final time as a Raider."

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7462/trent-richardson

I agree. I think he's done. He does have $600,000 in guaranteed money, so if there's any reason they don't cut him, I'd imagine it's because of that. Maybe put him in as some kind of FB hybrid, or a 2-pt specialist, but I doubt it.

Yet against the Cardinals (as most say the dress rehearsal for the season), in 5 carries, Richardson got more yards than all the other RBs combined.

 

Murray got 1 yard on 7 carries... and he even had a 13 yard run.  So his other 6 carries were for -12 yards.

[dudley dawson]

He's cut.

[shakedownstreet]

He's cut.

 

didn't even make the first round. insert career into toilet

[indy1888]

He gone!  

 

Wonder who all he is going to blame this time around?

[MTC]

Colts should sign him back.

 

[Jackie Daytona]

Feel for the guy, but dang..... whatever the reason, he just never was what advertised.  After the Trade to Indy, it's just like his head or heart weren't in it anymore....