smittywerb Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I’ve been checked out since we fired Reich. I’m looking forward to the off season. good: - JT actually played well but once Dallas said enough, that was pretty much it for the game. - Alec Pierce and the receivers look promising. Wonder how they’d look with a better qb - this loss put us in the top 10 for picks bad: - 4th quarter defense: 35 points in one quarter. I don’t know if this was because they were gassed or what, but to play ok for 3qtrs and then just absolutely collapse in the 4th is just down right bad. - no use of jelani woods: I don’t get it. We’d rather put granson on the outside than to use woods who has showed when utilized he produces. Woods should be the catching TE. Mo should be the blocking tight end. - Matt Ryan: I’ve already eaten crow about Ryan this year. But wow, he’s done. - offensive line: just bad once again. Ryan Kelly needs to be released. - run defense: basically got punked. oh, and Ballard should not be here next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid84 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Got to watch the game this morning. Wish I hadn’t. I don’t know about Ryan. Sit him and save some money on the cap next season and “risk” Foles somehow getting this turd of an offense going. OR play him and risk the cap hit for a better draft pick. Looking forward to the offseason. There’s A LOT to do for whoever’s our GM. I don’t buy it when people say we’re only a few pieces away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Solid84 said: Got to watch the game this morning. Wish I hadn’t. I don’t know about Ryan. Sit him and save some money on the cap next season and “risk” Foles somehow getting this turd of an offense going. OR play him and risk the cap hit for a better draft pick. Looking forward to the offseason. There’s A LOT to do for whoever’s our GM. I don’t buy it when people say we’re only a few pieces away. Leave Ryan and Foles on the bench and play Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodelesstraveled Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Anyone who thinks Ryan is HOF worthy or close to Wentz should have their forum privilges removed until next year. That was embarrasing display of ineptitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodelesstraveled Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, runthepost said: His arm has been shot since 2019 I said it in August but no one wanted to listen then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodelesstraveled Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Wentz wasn't the answer either so get over it. I was wrong about Matt Ryan, at least I can admit it. Admit you were wrong about Wentz who choked away a golden opportunity last year at 9-6. Then we can call it even. Wentz is now been replaced by Taylor in Washington, he is not even a starter anymore. Matt is just old but still is a Hall of Famer at least. Wentz flat out stinks and his career is about over and he is still young. Sam stinks too and so did Eason. We need to draft a QB, just reality and truth. You were wrong about everything for the last three years. Own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodelesstraveled Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said: Yep. Sometimes the nicest guys have no clue how to play football at the highest level. Likewise, you can be a jerk, and be supremely talented in the NFL. There's a balancing act in drafting them. I think Ballard was too extreme toward one side. Cowboys drafted Sam Williams and he looks to be a stud. Pitts drafted Pickens and he looks to be a stud. Draft any character guys if they can play. Remember that is why Tareek Hill dropped to 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 No more quarterback recommendations from Peyton. Lol! He thought Ryan to Indy was a good deal as well. Im kidding of course, well sort of i guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Introspect said: Irsay Smoking Crack on his jet after this one Normal day then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickster Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: He is just so unemotional. Ice ice baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, EastStreet said: When Jeff came, the priority was to evaluate. Any improvement is a bonus. Nothing changes. Need to still evaluate, and seek improvement (especially rooks and young). Figure out who is keeper, and figure out cuts and trades. That includes coaches and FO too. We have 4 weeks to do that. I fully agree with your statement, but I do wonder, if Saturday's priority is to evaluate? Saturday said he's being judged (as head coach) by wins and losses. So far, it's seems he is determined to just roll with Matt Ryan. and should he not make position changes, during these next games, how will they ever know if these young players have what it takes? It will be very interesting, with the bye week next, and then the remaining games, if Saturday shakes up the lineup? And give some more playing time to different players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 hours ago, FuedinHatfield said: Colts Nation “Let’s Cry!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, 1959Colts said: I fully agree with your statement, but I do wonder, if Saturday's priority is to evaluate? Saturday said he's being judged (as head coach) by wins and losses. So far, it's seems he is determined to just roll with Matt Ryan. and should he not make position changes, during these next games, how will they ever know if these young players have what it takes? It will be very interesting, with the bye week next, and then the remaining games, if Saturday shakes up the lineup? And give some more playing time to different players? Any player whose ability isn't known should be on the field in the remaining games. That includes Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Colts are Wreck. Seen more desire from 2 win team in 1974. Probably going to have 50 turnovers by season end. So much for the jerks in front office who wanted Ryan and Saturday. Watch Irsay hire him as permanent HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 The Colts should never be on prime time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, krunk said: No more quarterback recommendations from Peyton. Lol! He thought Ryan to Indy was a good deal as well. Im kidding of course, well sort of i guess..... That is because Peyton saw his 2015 fading versions in Ryan lol just that there was no elite D assembled around to not expose the weaknesses in the throwing. But Peyton for the most part helped out the O-line far more than Ryan has with blitz recognition and sliding protection even as his arm was fading. Heck even Rivers did it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, JColts72 said: The Colts should never be on prime time again. Isnt our Chargers game on MNF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Rhodelesstraveled said: You were wrong about everything for the last three years. Own it. I said we would go 10-6 with Rivers and make the playoffs - posted right in here before 2020. We actually went 11-5 so quit trolling. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I have seen enough of Sam. We are set up now to "rest" Ryans shoulder and elevate Foles. The new coach and GM will need a slightly different business model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosejawcolt Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, smittywerb said: I’ve been checked out since we fired Reich. I’m looking forward to the off season. good: - JT actually played well but once Dallas said enough, that was pretty much it for the game. - Alec Pierce and the receivers look promising. Wonder how they’d look with a better qb - this loss put us in the top 10 for picks bad: - 4th quarter defense: 35 points in one quarter. I don’t know if this was because they were gassed or what, but to play ok for 3qtrs and then just absolutely collapse in the 4th is just down right bad. - no use of jelani woods: I don’t get it. We’d rather put granson on the outside than to use woods who has showed when utilized he produces. Woods should be the catching TE. Mo should be the blocking tight end. - Matt Ryan: I’ve already eaten crow about Ryan this year. But wow, he’s done. - offensive line: just bad once again. Ryan Kelly needs to be released. - run defense: basically got punked. oh, and Ballard should not be here next year. People got to stop giving this D a break. It came against a legit O from thr 1st time and got punked. The talent on this team is not good. I said a total rebuild and people are like no. God I hate being so right for the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Moosejawcolt said: People got to stop giving this D a break. It came against a legit O from thr 1st time and got punked. The talent on this team is not good. I said a total rebuild and people are like no. God I hate being so right for the last few years. Don't lie. You don't hate it at all lol. You love being able to say I told you so even if you're only partially right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood23 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Rhodelesstraveled said: Anyone who thinks Ryan is HOF worthy or close to Wentz should have their forum privilges removed until next year. That was embarrasing display of ineptitude Saturday is showing Irsay that Ryan is way worse than Wentz. Looks pretty obvious that Wentz was not the big problem last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said: People got to stop giving this D a break. It came against a legit O from thr 1st time and got punked. The talent on this team is not good. I said a total rebuild and people are like no. God I hate being so right for the last few years. A few of us know that the defenses statistics have always been determined by the opponents offense needing to turn on the gas or not. When they don't have to because of our inept offense, the opponent's offense plays conservative. Like in this Dallas game when the offense shows some spark, the opponent then takes the situation more seriously. Dallas did not come out ready to play, but once they got down 10-7. they scored and never relinquished the lead. We failed to convert a two point conversion and the Dallas goes right down the field and answers with a TD. That's exactly what happened in BUF play off game three seasons ago. The defense never seems to get a stop when it matters, or even gets a sack when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Patrick Miller said: We need to draft a qb and bring in Jim Harbaugh. I'm all for that - Harbaugh won with the same SF players that Singletary couldn't, and had they just ran the ball once with either Kaepernick or Gore from inside the 5 on that final drive, they probably win Superbowl XLVII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said: Saturday is showing Irsay that Ryan is way worse than Wentz. Looks pretty obvious that Wentz was not the big problem last year. Yes, Wentz was the problem last year. He is the reason we did not make the playoffs. It was good coaching that got us close and finished with a winning record. Yes, Ryan is worse than Wentz. Good coaching got us to .500 with Ryan, but we will not finish the season even close to .500 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgacoltsfan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said: People got to stop giving this D a break. It came against a legit O from thr 1st time and got punked. The talent on this team is not good. I said a total rebuild and people are like no. God I hate being so right for the last few years. We need a competent GM and since you have no experience, you'd be perfect for the job. Please apply ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisaaron1023 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, DougDew said: Yes, Wentz was the problem last year. He is the reason we did not make the playoffs. It was good coaching that got us close and finished with a winning record. Yes, Ryan is worse than Wentz. Good coaching got us to .500 with Ryan, but we will not finish the season even close to .500. Yes. Wentz is/was A problem. The dude lost his job AGAIN on a different team. Also Matt Ryan is not very good. But the oline isn't helping him . Matt Ryan sucks Colts suck Wentz still sucks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: Jeff was asked whether Foles starts after the bye. He didn’t really answer the question. IMO, if keeping Sam on the roster next season even as a backup is even a consideration, then he need to play a little more this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, DougDew said: A few of us know that the defenses statistics have always been determined by the opponents offense needing to turn on the gas or not. When they don't have to because of our inept offense, the opponent's offense plays conservative. Like in this Dallas game when the offense shows some spark, the opponent then takes the situation more seriously. Dallas did not come out ready to play, but once they got down 10-7. they scored and never relinquished the lead. We failed to convert a two point conversion and the Dallas goes right down the field and answers with a TD. That's exactly what happened in BUF play off game three seasons ago. It has been a mixed bag. No D is perfect. If anything, the talent on the defensive side is better than the offensive side, IMO. We do hold better at home but when push comes to shove, since our pass rush doesn't generate turnovers nearly as much in the form of fumbles, and since we don't blitz, our secondary's coverage has to keep us in games. That is definitely a shortage of talent when push comes to shove on the pass rushing front. Nowadays, with rules favoring offenses, you have to be able to score in the high 20s consistently to match the best offenses in the league. We don't need to anoint them but we do have to acknowledge the fact that the D has kept us in games far more than the O has, thanks to the O's ineptitude. The Colts' D relies on 3rd down stops and few turnovers to flip field position. Eventually something had to give. We did better at home vs the Chiefs and Eagles but more times than not, don't play complementary football enough to avoid short fields or make stops when we really really have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, GoColts8818 said: Yeah but Polian would do the samething and no one cared. What’s the difference? Polian was winning. That’s what I think the real issue/thing that’s really frustrating people, not so much that they have roster of high character guys. The issue is he’s overly infatuated with character to the point where he’s drafting higher character guys over better players and it doesn’t translate to the field. I mean his overvaluing of other traits like athleticism and arm lengths, also play a part into his draft picks, but the character thing is just silly. Ben Banogu is a character guy and what has he done for the team besides heat the bench up for the starters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Do the Colts players put butter on their hands before every quarter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, AustinnKaine said: I just hope they bench Matt Ryan so the next game is a little more interesting, I'd only do that if we are going to cut bait with him this offseason - if it comes to that, Ballard has to go too. If we expect Matt to play if our rookie QB isn't ready to start Week 1, then I wouldn't humiliate him by benching him twice this season, once apiece under each Head Coach. That would be akin to blaming him for all of this teams offensive struggles and although he warrants his share of the blame, there's plenty of that to be spread around. It's not a ringing endorsement for Nick Foles that he can't even see the field under these circumstances, or it could just be Saturday's inexperience because most coaches would've probably had Foles in for the final few series, especially once the game got out of reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianapolis-Colts-Fan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I’m not going to blame the defense on this one. In the ultimate team sport the offense has hung the D out to dry every game. 5 turnovers…. 5. One of which was a pic 6. How many in our own territory. And we are going to blame the D? offense needs some major pieces. the major problem being below average QB. No QB on this team is average or better. It was disgusting to watch this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said: The issue is he’s overly infatuated with character to the point where he’s drafting higher character guys over better players and it doesn’t translate to the field. I mean his overvaluing of other traits like athleticism and arm lengths, also play a part into his draft picks, but the character thing is just silly. Ben Banogu is a character guy and what has he done for the team besides heat the bench up for the starters? The main difference was Polian drafted guys that could jump out of a gym too but they were "football players with production" and he wouldn't have passed A J Brown and Deebo Samuel to give us a Ben Banogu, IMO. Ballard definitely has his lion's share of the mess we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, chad72 said: It has been a mixed bag. No D is perfect. If anything, the talent on the defensive side is better than the offensive side, IMO. We do hold better at home but when push comes to shove, since our pass rush doesn't generate turnovers nearly as much in the form of fumbles, and since we don't blitz, our secondary's coverage has to keep us in games. That is definitely a shortage of talent when push comes to shove on the pass rushing front. Nowadays, with rules favoring offenses, you have to be able to score in the high 20s consistently to match the best offenses in the league. We don't need to anoint them but we do have to acknowledge the fact that the D has kept us in games far more than the O has, thanks to the O's ineptitude. The Colts' D relies on 3rd down stops and few turnovers to flip field position. Eventually something had to give. We did better at home vs the Chiefs and Eagles but more times than not, don't play complementary football enough to avoid short fields or make stops when we really really have to. The D is better than the O, no doubt. Better talent and better use of talent, IMO. But the D has never been a playoff caliber D, when many thought so and assumed that the limitation of the team was caused by offense's play calling. The team has simply never been good enough to be thought of as playoff quality. Yes, we had turnovers last night, but the D also gave up 5 touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMichael557 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Nick Cross needs to be playing as well. Lets get the future on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, DougDew said: The D is better than the O, no doubt. Better talent and better use of talent, IMO. But the D has never been a playoff caliber D, when many thought so and assumed that the limitation of the team was caused by offense's play calling. The team has simply never been good enough to be thought of as playoff quality. Yes, we had turnovers last night, but the D also gave up 5 touchdowns. If we had a playoff caliber O, our D would have complemented well enough to stop the likes of teams not led by Mahomes, Burrow and Allen. Playoff caliber to be a wild card team's D, yes. Playoff caliber to be a SB contending D, no. All assuming a competent offense that puts up points in the mid to high 20s consistently. That is the distinction I wanted to point out. The O on the other hand, bottom 5 cellar dweller type right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jszfunk Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Zoltan said: Ryan shouldn't see the field for the rest of the season, keep him inactive and let Foles or Sam play Totally agree. Why not at this point? I would see what Foles has to offer. Oh yeah..and my post game thoughts. Did not waste my staying up late for this one. Saw the score this AM and thought it was the final of Alabama vs some directional school from South Dakota earlier this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, DougDew said: The D is better than the O, no doubt. Better talent and better use of talent, IMO. But the D has never been a playoff caliber D, when many thought so and assumed that the limitation of the team was caused by offense's play calling. The team has simply never been good enough to be thought of as playoff quality. Yes, we had turnovers last night, but the D also gave up 5 touchdowns. The d with a competent offense is good enough for a playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, chad72 said: If we had a playoff caliber O, our D would have complemented well enough to stop the likes of teams not led by Mahomes, Burrow and Allen. Playoff caliber to be a wild card team's D, yes. Playoff caliber to be a SB contending D, no. All assuming a competent offense that puts up points in the mid to high 20s consistently. That is the distinction I wanted to point out. The O on the other hand, bottom 5 cellar dweller type right now. A matter of opinion. I don't think the defense is good enough to win consistently against TEN, MIA, JETS, BAL that it would take to get into the playoffs this year. Not enough of a pass rush. Still suspect against offenses that have balanced attacks, like DAL. Even PIT. The offense has been held together with safety pins for years. Last year we caught teams off guard with JT mid season...bracketed by horrible performances in the beginning and the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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