Jack freakin Doyle... SMH

[BOTT]

37 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Nope.  Holding Mixon under 100 yards and Dalton to 229 ain't a bad deal.  I'll take that for this young defense.  They were very active, swarming to the ball.  Leonard had a really good game and I thought Q actually did a decent job against Green.  Yeah, the Q comment is definitely debatable.

We just made mistakes at key times of the game.  That's really what lost it for us.  We allowed them to extend drives and Andrew's turnover in the Red Zone didn't help either.  Neither did the 3 and out after they scored.

Plenty of things to correct on both sides of the ball.

The only thing that held Mixon back was the number of carries.  

[Smoke317]

Stuff happens and Jack is a solid possession tight end but he “jacked” the game off for us today.  A similar play got Griff Whalen ran out of town...  No fear of that for Doyle but if he starts to fumble more often, Ebron needs that spot...  Oddly, most of Luck’s poorest throws were thrown to Doyle...

 

Regardless, Ebron & Rogers needed more targets. Especially in that 2nd half when our offense bogged down.  Frank tried to get Ebron on the field with heavy sets but he should have gotten some of Doyle’s single tight end reps.  

 

Luck and Reich will only get better with time.  Luck looked pretty dang solid hanging in the pocket and going through his progressions. Or even 3 step drop & get the ball out quick and on target.   Just more Ebron & Rogers please Frank & Andrew. 

[Myles]

1 hour ago, Bluefire4 said:

Just because he lost us one game doesn't mean he deserves to be benched. Stuff happens. We just have to move on. 

He didn't lose us the game.   We were already losing.

[CamMo]

Win by the Doyle. Lose by the Doyle. 

[love the shoe]

2 hours ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Agree.  Posts like this make me think they're made out of anger and any assemblanse of logical thinking.  Doyle has proven his toughness.  He has been known to fumble, but to call him soft?  Nope.

we needed a td make the catch and fall down and run the next play , those two * after the catch just take time off the clock

[Malakai432]

1 hour ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Nope.  Holding Mixon under 100 yards and Dalton to 229 ain't a bad deal.  I'll take that for this young defense.  They were very active, swarming to the ball.  Leonard had a really good game and I thought Q actually did a decent job against Green.  Yeah, the Q comment is definitely debatable.

We just made mistakes at key times of the game.  That's really what lost it for us.  We allowed them to extend drives and Andrew's turnover in the Red Zone didn't help either.  Neither did the 3 and out after they scored.

Plenty of things to correct on both sides of the ball.

 

I do agree, I honestly thought they played pretty well but as you said, just made critical mistakes at the wrong time.  Correctable for sure.  The D actually surprised me.  

[jameszeigler834]

2 hours ago, MarquisJ said:

Very frustrating Jack Doyel brings his fumbles from last year into this year.. Andrew Luck is driving down this field and fires a strike on 3rd and 15 which to me would have been a first maybe a manageable 4th and 1 and guy returns it for 83 yards.... I won’t blame the entire game on him but that play was huge

He cost the colts the game but defense did us no favors in this game either.

[Myles]

6 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

He cost the colts the game but defense did us no favors in this game either.

He didn't cost us the game.  We were losing already.  

[Btown_Colt]

11 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

He cost the colts the game but defense did us no favors in this game either.

He didn’t cost the game. Good grief. Even if he holds on to the ball and gets the 1st down, there is not guarantee we get a touch down, which we had to have.

[Dark Superman]

Can't only blame Doyle for today's loss.

[jameszeigler834]

32 minutes ago, Myles said:

He didn't cost us the game.  We were losing already.  

Ya but they were driving he doesn't fumble that good chance colts score a touchdown and win the game.

[jameszeigler834]

30 minutes ago, Btown_Colt said:

He didn’t cost the game. Good grief. Even if he holds on to the ball and gets the 1st down, there is not guarantee we get a touch down, which we had to have.

Good chance could have scored a touchdown good grief well into the red zone and he fumbled effectively ended the game so yes he did cost them the game whether you want to see it that way or not.

[jvan1973]

5 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Good chance could have scored a touchdown good grief well into the red zone and he fumbled effectively ended the game so yes he did cost them the game whether you want to see it that way or not.

It was one of many plays that cost is the game.   Whether you want to see it that way or not

[throwing BBZ]

2 hours ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Gotta be able to draft well to make a so called tanking strategy work.  I’m a little less confident in his ability to do that than I was last year around this time. 

 

Your fired!

[throwing BBZ]

13 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Good chance could have scored a touchdown good grief well into the red zone and he fumbled effectively ended the game so yes he did cost them the game whether you want to see it that way or not.

 

Put your hat on and go to the corner. Pure silliness.

[Defjamz26]

Doyle is a good player but in that situation he has to secure the ball better. He had issues with this last season as well. Overall the team played well but didn’t play fundamental football in the closing moments.

[deedub75]

So no one is going to give the Bengals defense ANY credit for knocking that ball loose?  The Colts knocked 2 out of A.J. Green's hands.  Was that bad play by Green or good Colts defense for knocking those balls loose?

[richard pallo]

Can't blame Doyle.   He was clobbered by two guys.  It happens.  It shouldn't have come down to that.   Penalties effect most games.  Today our stupid penalties and a phantom penalty were to much for our team to overcome.  The Bengals were able to overcome theirs.  They are a good team you know. 

[Btown_Colt]

54 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Good chance could have scored a touchdown good grief well into the red zone and he fumbled effectively ended the game so yes he did cost them the game whether you want to see it that way or not.

Well into the red zone? He caught the ball at like the 20. We would have been barley into the red zone....maybe to the 15. That is not a guaranteed touch down for this team. 

 

The fumble came at a horrible time, we all agree on that. But putting this all on Doyle is ridiculous. GOOD GRIEF!!!

[jameszeigler834]

1 hour ago, Btown_Colt said:

Well into the red zone? He caught the ball at like the 20. We would have been barley into the red zone....maybe to the 15. That is not a guaranteed touch down for this team. 

 

The fumble came at a horrible time, we all agree on that. But putting this all on Doyle is ridiculous. GOOD GRIEF!!!

They hadn't stopped the colts in the redzone all day to that point but whatever it is what it is.

[Btown_Colt]

9 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

They hadn't stopped the colts in the redzone all day to that point but whatever it is what it is.

They hadn’t? Seems to me like I remember an interception in the red zone. 

The only other time I remember being in the red zone was TD to TY. I can’t recall if we were in the red zone on Ebron’s TD. 

 

Bottom line is it still wasn’t a guarantee that we would of got the TD. There were to many other things that went wrong I that game, like Lucks INT in the red zone, to pin it on a Doyle. Yea it was a contributing factor.

[Happy2BeHere]

Meh, I put more credence in the two 15 yard penalties our defense gave up on one drive alone than I do on Jack Doyle’s fumble.

 

In addition, Quincy Wilson played a rather unimpressive game. Was shaking my head on him a number of times.

[Happy2BeHere]

3 hours ago, deedub75 said:

So no one is going to give the Bengals defense ANY credit for knocking that ball loose?  The Colts knocked 2 out of A.J. Green's hands.  Was that bad play by Green or good Colts defense for knocking those balls loose?

 

Yes

[NewColtsFan]

7 hours ago, King Colt said:

The guy that made the hit and ran the ball in was a seventh round draft pick.

 

So?

 

What difference does that make?

 

That doesn’t mean a thing...

 

[NewColtsFan]

2 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

They hadn't stopped the colts in the redzone all day to that point but whatever it is what it is.

 

You mean other than Luck's interception in the Red Zone on the first drive?

 

[Four2itus]

Here is my response to the need to blame every time something doesn't go right.......

 

Don't.

[Four2itus]

8 hours ago, Malakai432 said:

They really peed the game away.  Should’ve been an easy win.  

Com'n.....I know you know better. Two substitute tackles, first game for the QB in forever, against one of the better Dlines in football. New coach, new coordinators, and new schemes.

 

How was this suppose to be an easy win?

8 hours ago, Malakai432 said:

 

8 hours ago, Malakai432 said:

 

[Four2itus]

4 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

Your fired!

Summary execution

[Smoke317]

When someone else makes a mistake let’s see if they get the same pass that everybody on here wants to give Doyle.  Or is that pass only reserved for personal favorites???  Because if TY had fumbled and cost us a chance to win the game, he’d be getting blamed and most would be saying how he’s not a number 1.  Or imagine if it was Hines?  Would he get a pass?

[aaron11]

34 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

When someone else makes a mistake let’s see if they get the same pass that everybody on here wants to give Doyle.  Or is that pass only reserved for personal favorites???  Because if TY had fumbled and cost us a chance to win the game, he’d be getting blamed and most would be saying how he’s not a number 1.  Or imagine if it was Hines?  Would he get a pass?

plenty of blame to go around, doyle deserves some  of it

 

i dont expect greatness this year, but the way they lost was a bad look.  dumb penalties by several guys, secondary getting beat badly on greens td, and yes the turnovers by luck and doyle 

 

[Maniac]

Doyle has been a good player for us.

 

One mistake, calm yourselves.

[GoColtsWin]

8 hours ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Horrible D.  Hmm...not sure which game you were looking at but it wasn't this one.  D made a few mistakes when it counted, but to say the defense was horrible is just not true.

And factor in the youth aspect, and I personally think the Defensive unit as a whole is showing promise. Let em’ develope some chemistry, and we all may be smiling sooner than later. And if today’s return of Treebeard is any indication, he doesn’t have much rust to knock off. Plenty of effort overall though. We were just outplayed at certain positions. 

[GoColtsWin]

4 minutes ago, BlackPanther said:

Doyle has been a good player for us.

 

One mistake, calm yourselves.

Not to mention the defender just made a great play. 

[Narcosys]

You can't blame doyle for that fumble. Fedjelem should have been called for a penalty when he crowned doyle in the jaw. Lucky doyle didn't get knocked out. 

[Narcosys]

22 minutes ago, GoColtsWin said:

Not to mention the defender just made a great play. 

Are you talking about fedjelem, the guy who led with his helmet? Should have been a penalty.

[Narcosys]

3 hours ago, Smoke317 said:

When someone else makes a mistake let’s see if they get the same pass that everybody on here wants to give Doyle.  Or is that pass only reserved for personal favorites???  Because if TY had fumbled and cost us a chance to win the game, he’d be getting blamed and most would be saying how he’s not a number 1.  Or imagine if it was Hines?  Would he get a pass?

I don't think anyone would say that about TY as he has shown that he is. Hines is a rookie, the expectations are not high. Doyle has shown he can play, he's had 181 receptions and only 4 fumbles over six years and that's including this one. Let me see you take an unguarded helmet to the chin and see if you don't drop a ball.

 

Chill dude.

[lollygagger8]

The dude screwed up, big deal. He did take a pretty good hit. It happens. Doyle is still a GREAT player. 

 

I guarantee nobody feels as bad as he does. 

[GoColtsWin]

6 hours ago, Narcosys said:

Are you talking about fedjelem, the guy who led with his helmet? Should have been a penalty.

I’m referring to the first to get to JD that stripped the ball. The reason Fedjelem was even able to recover it. 

[Myles]

7 hours ago, Smoke317 said:

When someone else makes a mistake let’s see if they get the same pass that everybody on here wants to give Doyle.  Or is that pass only reserved for personal favorites???  Because if TY had fumbled and cost us a chance to win the game, he’d be getting blamed and most would be saying how he’s not a number 1.  Or imagine if it was Hines?  Would he get a pass?

That is a silly argument.   This would be the same no matter who did it.   There were many reasons we lost and lots of things that contributed to it.   We were losing when Doyle fumbled, so he didn't cost us.   We were already behind.   AV's missed FG.   Reich's decision not to go for 2.  Lucks INT. 

[Pacergeek]

If the defense holds up, Doyle is not put into that position. Defense, quite predictably, was horrendous in the second half. How does Green get loose? He's the one guy you cannot ignore. Where was Hooker the entire game? I'd say blame Eberflus