With Keanu Neal out for year, how about....

[Southside Hoosier Fan]

Trading them Matthias Farley and a 4th for Tevin Coleman?

[Steamboat_Shaun]

13 minutes ago, Southside Hoosier Fan said:

Trading them Matthias Farley and a 4th for Tevin Coleman?

 

Gotta think they'll just hit the waiver wire or elevate someone from their practice squad as opposed to trading an asset like Coleman, but who knows?

[throwing BBZ]

19 minutes ago, Southside Hoosier Fan said:

Trading them Matthias Farley and a 4th for Tevin Coleman?

 

Sure, do it. oh wait...

[richard pallo]

I would be in favor of any trade that can improve the team.   I'm sure Chris is taking calls I hope he's making calls. 

[aaron11]

i would do it.  i think the falcons would hesitate, but its not crazy

 

both are free agents next year and they have pretty similar cap hits now 

 

[Bravo]

Not sure why a lot of people think other teams want Colts players. This isn’t Madden.

 

They could easily keep Coleman, and grab a guy out of FA that isn’t a huge downgrade from Farley.

[Superman]

Why do we need Coleman? We have three young backs with varied and overlapping skill sets.

[bertjones7]

1 minute ago, Superman said:

Why do we need Coleman? We have three young backs with varied and overlapping skill sets.

Agree. I can see signing Coleman as a free agent but not giving up assets for him. 

[zibby43]

I'm with @Superman - I would much rather roll with what we have and wait until Turbin gets back so that we can have some depth at the safety position.  Farley is reliable and both Geathers and Hooker have been banged up before.

 

Plus, Farley is vital in the Dime.  You can bring him in and slide Geathers down to a LB spot and have quite a few outstanding coverage athletes on the field.

 

 

[BProland85]

I'd say offer up Farley straight up for Coleman instead. I don't think you need to involve the 4th rounder. Farley is a decent player and he's still young at 26 years. I'd only make this deal if we know we could retain Coleman to a long term deal in the offseason. 

[aaron11]

7 minutes ago, Superman said:

Why do we need Coleman? We have three young backs with varied and overlapping skill sets.

i guess i like coleman better than hines or wilkins, he may be better than mack too

[aaron11]

10 minutes ago, bravo4460 said:

They could easily keep Coleman, and grab a guy out of FA that isn’t a huge downgrade from Farley.

im sure they will look, but im not convinced thats true 

[NorthernBlue]

I like Coleman but I’d rather keep Farley since our starting safeties are both coming off injuries.

 

Plus the running back situation for the colts will hopefully stabilize once Mack and Turbin are back.

[Pacergeek]

Coleman would easily be our best RB. Those that wouldn't want him are taking Ballard's plan way too far. He never said he wouldn't upgrade the roster

[Pacergeek]

16 minutes ago, Superman said:

Why do we need Coleman? We have three young backs with varied and overlapping skill sets.

Mack and Wilkins are good, but unproven. Who is the third RB? Please don't say Nyheim "The fumble" Hines lol

[Pacergeek]

12 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

I'd say offer up Farley straight up for Coleman instead. I don't think you need to involve the 4th rounder. Farley is a decent player and he's still young at 26 years. I'd only make this deal if we know we could retain Coleman to a long term deal in the offseason. 

Atlanta would laugh at this trade. Coleman is much better than a backup safety. One could argue that Tevin is Atlanta's top RB

[aaron11]

3 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Atlanta would laugh at this trade. Coleman is much better than a backup safety. One could argue that Tevin is Atlanta's top RB

farley actually graded higher than coleman last year, while coleman was better than any of our running backs

 

i really dont swear by pff, but i look at it when talking about trades 

[DaColts85]

13 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Atlanta would laugh at this trade. Coleman is much better than a backup safety. One could argue that Tevin is Atlanta's top RB

This is a pretty funny comment. Coleman is a backup RB but you talk highly of him versus our backup safety. Confusing I know but they are both not starters...just clarifying.

[jvan1973]

18 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Atlanta would laugh at this trade. Coleman is much better than a backup safety. One could argue that Tevin is Atlanta's top RB

No one would argue that Coleman is better than Freeman

[Boiler_Colt]

If Tevin Coleman wasn't an IU guy would he be getting as much love on this board as he currently does?

[NewColtsFan]

18 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Atlanta would laugh at this trade. Coleman is much better than a backup safety. One could argue that Tevin is Atlanta's top RB

No.   One couldn’t argue that.  

 

You could.  But that’s you.

 

Apparently you don’t know that their other back, Freeman, is one of the highest paid backs in the NFL —- $8.5 mill per year.    Freeman is their top back, Coleman is their 2nd back.

 

[krunk]

1 hour ago, Southside Hoosier Fan said:

Trading them Matthias Farley and a 4th for Tevin Coleman?

I wouldn't be surprised if they brought in Eric Reid.   It seems too perfect and he played in that defense last year.

[HarryTheCat]

1 hour ago, Southside Hoosier Fan said:

Trading them Matthias Farley and a 4th for Tevin Coleman?

I'm pretty sure the Ballard would have to suffer some pretty severe brain damage before he'd even entertain the thought of that deal. 

[NewColtsFan]

Not in favor of the trade.   Coleman has a ceiling.   He had Sickle Cell Trait, a lesser version of Sicke Cell Anemia.   He can play with it, but I believe it impacts Coleman to some degree.

 

I like Farley and our picks.   I’d iAds on this.    Mack will be back soon enough.  Wilkins should be ok.   Hines is the question mark.

 

[aaron11]

3 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:

If Tevin Coleman wasn't an IU guy would he be getting as much love on this board as he currently does?

he would from me, i think hes better than mack and company 

 

im an iupui-purdue guy so im slightly bias but i dont really follow IU football 

[CR91]

people, step away from your madden controller

[aaron11]

not sure why people are saying this is nuts, farley is a decent safety and coleman is a decent back 

 

they are pretty even really, Farley rated higher on pff, while coleman was higher on madden.  madden is about speed though and coleman is fast 

[Coffeedrinker]

23 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Mack and Wilkins are good, but unproven. Who is the third RB? Please don't say Nyheim "The fumble" Hines lol

I am so glad you don't disappoint Geek.  

 

I can sum up all your posts in a sentence or two.  

 

"blah, blah, blah, he sucks, blah, blah, blah.

 

or

 

blah, blah, blah, they suck, blah, blah, blah.

 

 

[Cynjin]

4 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:

I am so glad you don't disappoint Geek.  

 

I can sum up all your posts in a sentence or two.  

 

"blah, blah, blah, he sucks, blah, blah, blah.

 

or

 

blah, blah, blah, they suck, blah, blah, blah.

 

 

 

That is almost entirely accurate. 

[akcolt]

4 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:

I am so glad you don't disappoint Geek.  

 

I can sum up all your posts in a sentence or two.  

 

"blah, blah, blah, he sucks, blah, blah, blah.

 

or

 

blah, blah, blah, they suck, blah, blah, blah.

 

 

I have gotten used to his non sense but that was poor for even him. Coleman is better than Freeman clearly a person who knows the game. 

 

Coleman is an IU guy but Farley played at Notre Dame Can the Irish get some love? It's still a bad trade why would we toss in a 4th not mention that it would really weaken our S position. 

 

Ballard spends a lot of time on evaluating before selecting players. I think he wants to see these guys play. Mack will maybe not proven as an every down guy He has shown his speed translates and looked as explosive as Coleman is at least.  I think his ceiling is higher as is Wilkins

[Pacergeek]

You guys really gonna tell me that Hines is good? LOL

[Surge89]

2 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

You guys really gonna tell me that Hines is good? LOL

 

Dude... You gotta tell the voices in your head to be quiet. No one has brought up Hines except you.

[BR-549]

I like Farley, I think he played well and at times very well. 

 

Why weaken an area of our team that is in decent shape in exchange for a slight upgrade at another position - maybe.  If our line does its job our backs will be just fine. 

 

Its not always just skill set that makes a player, they have to mesh with teammates and fit scheme too.

[Pacergeek]

43 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

No.   One couldn’t argue that.  

 

You could.  But that’s you.

 

Apparently you don’t know that their other back, Freeman, is one of the highest paid backs in the NFL —- $8.5 mill per year.    Freeman is their top back, Coleman is their 2nd back.

 

Freeman is paid, which is why he has to start. Coleman got more carries last night, and scored the TD. I don't really know if Coleman is better, but it's closer than you think. 

[Smonroe]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

Why do we need Coleman? We have three young backs with varied and overlapping skill sets.

 

We have one young back that's shown some promise, when he's not hurt.  We one back who shows promise, but has done nothing in a real NFL game.  And one young back who's shown nothing...period.

 

Coleman is a proven NFL RB.  Not saying that we'd get him in a trade, but I am saying we're not exactly strong at RB by any means. 

[Scott Pennock]

They will likely call Eric Reid...

[Coffeedrinker]

29 minutes ago, BR-549 said:

I like Farley, I think he played well and at times very well. 

 

Why weaken an area of our team that is in decent shape in exchange for a slight upgrade at another position - maybe.  If our line does its job our backs will be just fine. 

 

Its not always just skill set that makes a player, they have to mesh with teammates and fit scheme too.

I agree with this, I think in a lot of dime packages they will bring in Farley as the 3rd safety and Farley is pretty good.

[Superman]

32 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

We have one young back that's shown some promise, when he's not hurt.  We one back who shows promise, but has done nothing in a real NFL game.  And one young back who's shown nothing...period.

 

Coleman is a proven NFL RB.  Not saying that we'd get him in a trade, but I am saying we're not exactly strong at RB by any means. 

 

First, Coleman is a decent back. It's not a ridiculous idea to suggest that any of our young guys might wind up being better. I think the mix we have can easily replicate what Coleman does. 

 

Second, we'll never know what we have if we don't give them a chance to play. Draft well, develop your players, and see where you stand. 

 

If Ballard wanted a proven veteran back, he had several options to choose from over the summer. AP and Morris immediately come to mind. They stuck with the young guys to give them a chance. If they fail, upgrade. But they haven't failed yet.

[Everyone]

Or, and hear me out, they could just sign Eric Reid....

[richard pallo]

Why does everyone think Reid still has something left in the tank?  How old is he?   I don't know but hasn't he also had a major injury at one time.  He's still out there for a reason.  Wouldn't they be looking for a bonafide starter?   They might be better off signing someone off a practice squad or making a trade.