I Hope This Is Not True/ Irsay chooses grigson over gruden....(merge)

[buccolts]

2 minutes ago, VocableLoki said:

JMV is claiming that he has no knowledge of Pagano being fired next week. Runs contrary to Mr. Osborne's tweets. 

 

He's not on air now, is he?

Is he tweeting?

[VocableLoki]

Just now, buccolts said:

 

He's not on air now, is he?

Is he tweeting?

 

yes

 

 

[buccolts]

4 minutes ago, VocableLoki said:

yes

 

 

 

Thanks.

People keep referring to what JMV is saying but no one ever posts his tweets.

So, I wondered.

[chrisfarley]

14 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

It was a joke about the extension.

the posts are coming fast and furious, my bad...thought someone was serious..... I need to brush up on my speed-reading skills. 

[indy1888]

Yeah the  Osborne guy hinted earlier that Grigson was the issue. He claims the story of how this all fell apart is "maddening".  He is supposed to write about it. He also claims JMV was one of his sources. If that is true i would take it to the bank. I really think Irsays daughters must be greatly influencing Jims decision making at this point.

 

[indy1888]

7 minutes ago, VocableLoki said:

JMV is claiming that he has no knowledge of Pagano being fired next week. Runs contrary to Mr. Osborne's tweets. 

 

Osborne never said Pagano would be fired. In fact, he claimed both would be back once the Gruden deal fell apart.

[Stephen]

1 hour ago, TheBlueAndWhite said:

So freaking stupid, I am over this organization, Irsay is running it into the ground. Go green bay packers!! 

that's my wife's team

[VocableLoki]

11 minutes ago, indy1888 said:

 

Osborne never said Pagano would be fired. In fact, he claimed both would be back once the Gruden deal fell apart.

 

I'm getting my speculative sources mixed up, in contrary to the LKED tweets

[RollerColt]

I don't know what to believe anymore... Is it baseball season yet?

[VocableLoki]

Just now, RollerColt said:

I don't know what to believe anymore... Is it baseball season yet?

I'll check my sources

[VocableLoki]

20 minutes ago, buccolts said:

 

Thanks.

People keep referring to what JMV is saying but no one ever posts his tweets.

So, I wondered.

 

No worries!

[Tsarquise]

Irsay and Grigson 

 

[BProland85]

I thought Irsay wants to win titles? Guess not with his love affair for Grigson. 

[CF4L]

10 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

I thought Irsay wants to win titles? Guess not with his love affair for Grigson. 

 

His comments about Manning and the Colts of that era become more laughable with each passing year...

[NewColtsFan]

 

I know someone here has been saying for weeks.....

 

Get out in front of your own story.

 

Control your own message,  because if you don't,  someone else will control it for you and you won't be happy.

 

That's looking pretty spot on right now.

 

We've had one raging brush fire story after another with people not knowing what is true and what is not.....

 

Not a good way to do business.....

 

 

[WoolMagnet]

1 hour ago, grmasterb said:

So, you're in a room with Peyton Manning and Jon Gruden, and they tell you that they're in if you fire Ryan Grigson.  Who doesn't take that deal??

Ah, thats not the way it happened.

[coltsva]

Whatever happened to "joined at the hip?"

[ztboiler]

I guess that, in the absence of any real information, you can derive a 100 post thread from tweets by Brad Wells and sprinkle in random newsworthy tidbits by Knockem Down...

 

Yep, that's where we're at...kind of a defining moment.

[runthepost]

If john harbaugh gruden and Peyton all said we will join the organization if you fire Ryan, Irsay would still say I'm not firing Ryan

[adamthyst]

This is just so anger inducing, I don't know what to think except having so much anger for this.

[Jason_]

6 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

As much as Manning did for this team give him what he wants this isn't even a question if I'm in Irsays position.

 

Lol.  Thats REALLY easy for you to say since you're, you know, NOT actually in Irsay's position.  

[presto123]

 At least I have my Cowboys to fall back on. It's looking more and more like this franchise is toast.

[superrep1967]

9 hours ago, Coltsfan1284 said:

I hope this is not true if Irsay really lost out on Gruden due to Grigson being retained maybe the best interest of the Colts aren't being considered.  I understand the owner stake with Manning and can see why that would be an issue.

 

 

 

Yeah, The issue has been and will continue to be Irsay. He has fallen in love with Grigson so will we see wedding bells soon. I mean come on man Grigson has failed miserably, but he can't let his buddy go. That's doing a disservice to your fans that support this franchise. He is running this team further and further into the ground with these personal feelings. Yeah, Irsay is definitely the problem and has been all along. 

 

[VaAllDay757]

8 hours ago, VocableLoki said:

I have a really, really hard time believing this. Irsay was very close to firing him last year and now he retains him to deny the coach/FO he wants?

Close firing who??? He wasn't firing nobody he gave those guys a 4 year extension...not 1 or 2 years but 4 more years lol irsay is a joke

[CoachLite]

I've seen this kind of behavior in family businesses before. It can be (and is) devastating to the business. If these stories are true (big if), then the Colt's have not only lost all credibility as a football operation, but they have lost a tremendous amount of financial value as well. 8-8 may be considered having a great season in the future. Oh well ...

[needanoline63]

If what I'm reading is correct. Irsay wouldn't hand over the team to gruden and fire grigson. Jim irsay has chosen ryan grigson over a Super Bowl winning coach. Get your torches and pitchforks ready

[jameszeigler834]

11 minutes ago, needanoline63 said:

If what I'm reading is correct. Irsay wouldn't hand over the team to gruden and fire grigson. Jim irsay has chosen ryan grigson over a Super Bowl winning coach. Get your torches and pitchforks ready

he is stupid.

[jameszeigler834]

2 hours ago, Jason_S said:

 

Lol.  Thats REALLY easy for you to say since you're, you know, NOT actually in Irsay's position.  

I don't think Peyton is asking too much.

[OffensivelyPC]

This thread has already been created. 

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Has anyone in here actually heard Jim Irsay come out and say he has interviewed Gruden or Peyton for anything? Has anyone in here heard Gruden or Peyton talk about being offered anything from Irsay? Everytime I read a tweet by the local or national media it always says per source this. Name your source or I am not buying it! Until I hear Irsay, Gruden, or Peyton actually speak on anything I am not buying anything else I read. That is my take on it.

[CoachLite]

2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Has anyone in here actually heard Jim Irsay come out and say he has interviewed Gruden or Peyton for anything? Has anyone in here heard Gruden or Peyton talk about being offered anything from Irsay? Everytime I read a tweet by the local or national media it always says per source this. Name your source or I am not buying it! Until I hear Irsay, Gruden, or Peyton actually speak on anything I am not buying anything else I read. That is my take on it.

No, and I don't expect to hear anything, either.

[backshoulderfade]

Ugh, this place is getting bad. Checking out until the combine. Peace

[coltsva]

We have a "Chuck Pagano Complaints" thread and a "Ryan Grigson Complaints" thread. Isn't it time we complete the trilogy with a "Jim Irsay Complaints" thread? 

 

 

[Jason_]

14 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I don't think Peyton is asking too much.

 

What exactly did Peyton ask for?

[icf]

looking forward to another 8-8 season thanks to some meaningless wins at the end of the year that only serve to worsen their draft position.  A draft position that no matter where it's at Grigson would screw up.

 

Grigson would have been my first choice to leave....now he lost out on Gruden, due to him??

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, CoachLite said:

No, and I don't expect to hear anything, either.

Then why are some people in here bashing Irsay by saying he is choosing Grigson over Gruden. They don't know that to be fact. Why would anyone in here realistically think we are going to make any kind of change when Pagano and Grigson is under contract for 3 more years? I said back in October nothing would happen. There Threads are just getting tiresome. Basically to the people that hate Pagano and Grigson and think Irsay is a bad owner why not just follow another team then?

[CoachLite]

1 minute ago, coltsva said:

We have a "Chuck Pagano Complaints" thread and a "Ryan Grigson Complaints" thread. Isn't time we complete the trilogy with a "Jim Irsay Complaints" thread? 

 

 

 

Why? None of this does any good.

[coltsva]

Just now, CoachLite said:

 

Why? None of this does any good.

I believe the reason behind the specific complaint threads is so there aren't a dozen threads  about basically the same thing. None of them do any good, except to give us a place to vent.

[JColts72]

Then he's a big JERK.

[OffensivelyPC]

15 minutes ago, coltsva said:

We have a "Chuck Pagano Complaints" thread and a "Ryan Grigson Complaints" thread. Isn't it time we complete the trilogy with a "Jim Irsay Complaints" thread? 

 

 

Because then we would never have any new threads. Duh.