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PFF does measure statistics differently than looking at raw numbers. They don't count dropped balls against a QB's accuracy. Much like they don't count bad throws against a receiver. That article mentions traits that just aren't measurable. PFF doesn't necessarily focus on that nonsense. I can believe Tannehill is a more accurate QB than luck. I just don't know what else they used in their assessment.

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PFF does measure statistics differently than looking at raw numbers. They don't count dropped balls against a QB's accuracy. Much like they don't count bad throws against a receiver. That article mentions traits that just aren't measurable. PFF doesn't necessarily focus on that nonsense. I can believe Tannehill is a more accurate QB than luck. I just don't know what else they used in their assessment.

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Well, according to PFF, yes. Soooo... there goes my trust in PFF.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/176306/is-ryan-tannehill-better-than-andrew-luck

 

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Merged your threads together.

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Tannehill isn't underrated.  

  

Most people think he's very good (which he is). 

 

But he isn't on the same level as Luck.  

  

He can't carry an offense like Andrew does.  

  

But if there was one young QB I'd like to have outside of Luck, I think Tannehill is the one.

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Mike Wallace has been less of a factor because of the lack of big plays with Tannehill not being able to put the ball out there like Luck does with TY. Look at the routes in their system. If you choke the middle and underneath, you can limit their offense. With Luck and our offense, that's not the case.

Their D, as a unit now, maybe better to get the Dolphins closer to the Colts but Luck's intangibles have their own significant chapters, IMO, and as a sum of all qualities, Luck is a better QB.

He does have a model wife though, Mr. Tannehill that is

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I think the reason Luck is rated lower than Tannehill, is because Luck takes a lot of risks. Saying Tannehill is better than Luck is like saying Chad Pennington was better than Brett Favre. Would you rather have a QB that will go out there and win games, or a guy that just tries not to lose? 

 

It's also partially the offensive design's fault. We should have more timing routes, where Luck throws before the WR makes his break. A lot of our plays seem to be more see and throw, rather than timing and read based.

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If its based on arm strength, Luck would probably be in the 20s. So whatvare they basing this on. Turnovers?

 

Here's luck throwing the ball standing at the 25 yard line hitting the other side's 1:

 

He was even throwing into a wind that day and had already thrown at least 48 passes. So I'm not sure where this weak arm strength stuff is coming from lolol

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I was speaking with a Dolphins fan at work the other day who compared Tannehill to Dalton.  I agreed there is somewhat of a valid comparison there.

 

I'm sure even Skip Bayless would favor Luck over Tannehill.  :billiejean:

It wouldn't shock me if it came he was the one who wrote the list...

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I was speaking with a Dolphins fan at work the other day who compared Tannehill to Dalton.  I agreed there is somewhat of a valid comparison there.

 

I'm sure even Skip Bayless would favor Luck over Tannehill.  :billiejean:

 

This makes me wonder the rest of the order since they said Luck wasn't in the top ten at all. 

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Hey guys, I can be just as good as the people at PFF and get some clicks too!

Top 10 NFL Players List

1. Johnny Manziel

2. Michael Crabtree

3. Richard Sherman

4. Tim Tebow

5. Peyton Hillis

6. Pat McAfee

7. Aaron Rodgers

8. Darrelle Revis

9. Devin Hester

10. Brett Favre

 

Interesting.

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Mike Wallace has been less of a factor because of the lack of big plays with Tannehill not being able to put the ball out there like Luck does with TY. Look at the routes in their system. If you choke the middle and underneath, you can limit their offense. With Luck and our offense, that's not the case.

Their D, as a unit now, maybe better to get the Dolphins closer to the Colts but Luck's intangibles have their own significant chapters, IMO, and as a sum of all qualities, Luck is a better QB.

He does have a model wife though, Mr. Tannehill that is

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