Free Agency Archive Thread (Days 1-4)

[Zoltan]

1 minute ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

He's above ave drafting. Terrible in FA.

You're right Rhodes, Autry, Houston,  were terrible signings

Even on the waiver wire he is terrible grabbing players like kenny moore and glowinski

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

I am almost certain our LT will be coming from our 1st pick and I'm totally ok with that 

DE is possible with Autry gone

[shasta519]

16 minutes ago, tvturner said:

I'll give you $4,000 if you can find a single GM in the history of the league who had to deal with what Ballard has had to deal with

 

I'll double it if you can find a GM that turned around a roster as fast he did too

That’s a very specific amount...with very loose (and intentionally subjective) terms. 

What did Ballard have to deal with beyond losing a franchise QB? The vast majority of new GMs have to address their franchise QB situation. Ballard is not remotely unique in this aspect. He just had it to do it later. Think about the logic here...if Luck being gone is the reason they haven’t a playoff game the last two seasons...then what exactly is Ballard doing that is unprecedented?
 

Also, getting the #3 pick in a QB-heavy draft (because Luck was out in 2017)

and being able to trade it back for (3) 2nd round picks was incredibly advantageous. I love how you fanboys talk about how not having Luck is this precedented thing that no mortal GM could ever overcome like Ballard has...yet no one will ever admit that it’s why the 2018 draft was set up the way it was. As if Ballard would have landed all of those same players with Luck. 

 

And what is considered turning around a roster? They won a playoff game when Luck returned for Ballard’s second season. Guess who else won a playoff game with Luck in his second season as GM. 

Haven’t won a playoff game since.

If you want GMs who turned around a roster faster than Ballard...that’s probably not really a difficult thing to find. But it’s a nonsense setup because “turned-around” is entirely subjective. Plenty of teams have gone from a top 5 pick to winning a playoff game in the course of a couple seasons.

But here’s an example. Jon Robinson inherited a 3-13 TEN team...and was in the AFCG by his 4th season. That’s a turn-around that is definitely quicker. Better record than Ballard too.

[csmopar]

2 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

You're right Rhodes, Autry, Houston,  were terrible signings

Even on the waiver wire he is terrible grabbing players like kenny moore and glowinski

[Jackie Daytona]

1 hour ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

They resigned their own plus signed Gronk, Fournette and Brown. The point is they made moves to get better. They are doing the same this year.

CB is above ave in trades and  at drafting but can't close deals in FA or as we know hiring a coach. How many teams have had situations like the Luck and McDaniels fiascios?

 This is called moving the goal posts.  You answered the question "name the last team to spend the most in FA to win the next seasons super bowl". You answered, very clearly..... "Hmm...Tampa Bay?". This was of course factually incorrect.  

 

You can't come back with, that's not exactly what i meant with my 2 word answer..... Lol No one misinterpreted your answer, and the question wasn't about what you tried to deflect to.  No one asked who "made moves to get better"  : )

[cdgacoltsfan]

2 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Colts needs and signings:

Impact Edge rusher....nope

LT....nope

Wide Rec....nada

Corner....zilch

Tight end..nope

Running back for depth....nope

DE/DT- zipoli

 

Heres the latest update.  I'll add DE/DT now that Autry is gone.

[BluesGirl]

6 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

DE is possible with Autry gone

Autry is actually a DT who is a situational DE  correct

[Colts_Fan12]

5 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

DE is possible with Autry gone

I still think that will come in FA may not be a big signing but still someone at the position 

[BluesGirl]

9 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Could be a big addition 

Yep. 

[danlhart87]

Just now, Colts_Fan12 said:

I still think that will come in FA may not be a big signing but still someone at the position 

Probably Kpass from KC

1 minute ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Heres the latest update.  I'll add DE/DT now that Autry is gone.

quit being a debbie downer 

[richard pallo]

6 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

An aging LT with an injury history taking up nearly 11% of your salary cap is not in a team's best interests. That is what it would be if Williams is signed for that much.  

I'm starting to think he might not get that 20m number.  Maybe that's why his signing is taking so long.  AC was going to get 16m this year.  Trent is a much better player than AC.   Ballard might pull his signing off after all.  18-20m will probably get it done. 

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

I'm starting to think he might not get that 20m number.  Maybe that's why his signing is taking so long.  AC was going to get 16m this year.  Trent is a much better player than AC.   Ballard might pull his signing off after all.  18-20m will probably get it done. 

No way Ballard does that with Q and Smith using lots of cap soon 

[ColtJax]

Darby gets 10 million a year? Rhoads will ask for 12-14 at least.. At least get Houston back, I mean...DAMN

[danlhart87]

Had wonderful day with these pups 

Thought it might help cheer some up 

Just now, ColtJax said:

Darby gets 10 million a year? Rhoads will ask for 12-14 at least.. At least get Houston back, I mean...DAMN

Day 1 is filled with players being overpaid no shocker

[Colts1324]

2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I'm starting to think he might not get that 20m number.  Maybe that's why his signing is taking so long.  AC was going to get 16m this year.  Trent is a much better player than AC.   Ballard might pull his signing off after all.  18-20m will probably get it done. 

It really depends on what he is wanting. If he wants a 2 year contract, we can do that @18-20 million. We could extend Nelson, and have it kick in after the 2022 season.

 

But, if he wants a 4 year deal, I don't see Ballard doing that. 

[danlhart87]

Just now, Colts1324 said:

It really depends on what he is wanting. If he wants a 2 year contract, we can do that @18-20 million. We could extend Nelson, and have it kick in after the 2022 season.

 

But, if he wants a 4 year deal, I don't see Ballard doing that. 

I don't see him doing it regardless 

[csmopar]

1 minute ago, ColtJax said:

Darby gets 10 million a year? Rhoads will ask for 12-14 at least.. At least get Houston back, I mean...DAMN

[Zoltan]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

Had wonderful day with these pups 

Thought it might help cheer some up 

That's a lot of puppers

[danlhart87]

 

Half the forum is Troy

The other calm rational are Abed

[DownHillRunner]

Only 26 years old and is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. He won't come cheap though. If the Vikings asked for #21 would you do it? 

 

 

 

 

[danlhart87]

Just now, Zoltan said:

That's a lot of puppers

my fiance and I know a golden retriever breeder she has 14

[CR91]

 

[MPStack]

Go Colts!

[Colts1324]

2 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

That would hurt for sure. Their offense will likely regress slightly IMO, but their defense is going to be a lot better

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Hmm Titans already blew half their load with the Autry signing, wonder how high they realistically go

[Virtuoso80]

 

[tvturner]

22 minutes ago, shasta519 said:

That’s a very specific amount...with very loose (and intentionally subjective) terms. 

What did Ballard have to deal with beyond losing a franchise QB? The vast majority of new GMs have to address their franchise QB situation. Ballard is not remotely unique in this aspect. He just had it to do it later. Think about the logic here...if Luck being gone is the reason they haven’t a playoff game the last two seasons...then what exactly is Ballard doing that is unprecedented?
 

Also, getting the #3 pick in a QB-heavy draft (because Luck was out in 2017)

and being able to trade it back for (3) 2nd round picks was incredibly advantageous. I love how you fanboys talk about how not having Luck is this precedented thing that no mortal GM could ever overcome like Ballard has...yet no one will ever admit that it’s why the 2018 draft was set up the way it was. As if Ballard would have landed all of those same players with Luck. 

 

And what is considered turning around a roster? They won a playoff game when Luck returned for Ballard’s second season. Guess who else won a playoff game with Luck in his second season as GM. 

Haven’t won a playoff game since.

If you want GMs who turned around a roster faster than Ballard...that’s probably not really a difficult thing to find. But it’s a nonsense setup because “turned-around” is entirely subjective. Plenty of teams have gone from a top 5 pick to winning a playoff game in the course of a couple seasons.

But here’s an example. Jon Robinson inherited a 3-13 TEN team...and was in the AFCG by his 4th season. That’s a turn-around that is definitely quicker. Better record than Ballard too.

That fact that your post is centered entirely around Luck means you've missed most of the points..

 

Luck's shoulder issues, the loss of Edwin Jackson, the Josh McDaniels saga, having to completely rebuild the culture that the previous toxic GM left behind, and going through 5 different week 1 starting QBs in 5 years? Any of that ring a bell?

 

How about hitting on draft picks that the former couldn't? How about drafting All-Pro and ROY talent, winning Executive of the Year, and getting bargain deals in FA that pan out? Something the former didn't..

 

Yeah we had the #3 pick because Luck was hurt, but I love how you're diminishing the fact that he drafted 2 All-Pros with a potential 3rd on the way. I'd love for you to find another GM that did that

 

How about building a top 3 OL in football in 2 years? Finally bringing a good running game to Indianapolis?

 

Turning a Anderson-Woods-Hankins-Sheard-Simon pass rush into a Turay-Houston-Buckner-Stewart-Autry front?

Going from Antonio Morrison to Darius Leonard, from Farley-Hooker to Blackmon-Willis, bringing in Kenny Moore who is the league's best slot corner....

 

 

Do you want me to continue? "Fanboy"

 

 

 

 

 

[coming on strong]

ballard already said he will not work out of desperation . first day signings are always over paying and desperation .  ballard will wait for when a couple of good  players get left behind and  no other teams are bidding then swoop in for the cheap contract . patriots used this tactic to get cam newton for 1 million per year .   with the cap dropping down 20 million and half the teams being over the cap and many more having zero room for free agents multiple good players will be left standing without a team . watch and learn the real art of the deal guys ballard is a god .

[w87r]

Williams was top rated Tackle last year, I would take him all day.

 

Our line would be filthy.  Williams next to Q?

 

 

A lot of over reactions going on in here. Even more significant over pays from teams, happening.  

 

How the hell does Kendrick Bourne get $7m+? That is ludicrous

Agholor $13m?

 

 

Ballard has something up his sleeve.

[Zoltan]

9 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

I'd be okay not signing Bud Dupree

[Indeee]

26 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

This giant run-on rambling sentence is a problem... Where were you heading with this? 

Sorry, I was defending you not speaking to you. I have had a couple issues today being chastised as you have been just because of a differing opinion. Nevertheless, it is what is is

[cdgacoltsfan]

Just now, Zoltan said:

I'd be okay not signing Bud Dupree

dont sweat it....were not signing any difference makers.

[BluesGirl]

36 minutes ago, krunk said:

I had read somewhere we may take a look at acquiring Tanoh Kpsaggonon. That big 6 '7" athletic dude that plays next to Chris Jones.

How do you pronounce his name?   LOL.   JK

[Colts1324]

Hendrickson, Fuller/Samuel, and Everett would be my realistic, ideal FA wishlist given what is left. 

 

That is we resign Rhodes. 

[MPStack]

1 minute ago, Colts1324 said:

Hendrickson, Fuller/Samuel, and Everett would be my realistic, ideal FA wishlist given what is left. 

 

That is we resign Rhodes. 

Hendrickson would be a nice signing and draft a LT at 21. 

[tvturner]

Dupree to Tennessee

[Virtuoso80]

 

[harrisoncolts88]

I wonder with the Raiders going for Yannick and Titans trying to close out with Bud Dupree if someone like Kwity Paye could make it to the Colts in the draft. One can dream...

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, harrisoncolts88 said:

I wonder with the Raiders going for Yannick and Titans trying to close out with Bud Dupree if someone like Kwity Paye could make it to the Colts in the draft. One can dream...

But Titans draft behind Colts 

[CR91]

1 minute ago, Virtuoso80 said:

 

 

Weird fit. Don't the titans play a 4-3?