RockThatBlue Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colts-pursued-sean-payton-but-couldnt-reach-a-deal-with-the-saints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just got an update, has to make Pagano feel great.... Not that I'm a SP fan, or Pagano for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Wow... looks like pagano isn't safe unless it's jimmy raye, which is likely. Maybe if changes don't happen this season they will next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twfish Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Doesn't sound like irsay IS so sure Pagano will be our coach going forward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelt Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Dead man walking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Yeah I wouldn't count on seeing Pagano on the Colts sideline in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just fire him damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 You could really see Jim letting the new GM fire Pags at this point. Just say the new GM wanted a coaching change and he doesn't take anymore heat from the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Gruden and Payton. Jim seems to be looking for experienced HC's, specifically SB experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Again? Curiouser and curiouser. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 And in other news... Reports are that the Colts reached out to Rich Kotite. Kotite however has declined the offer. Irsay says he plans to move forward with Chuck Pagano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backshoulderfade Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 How serious are the talks if they didn't include Jim, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snkdy Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 La Canfora though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adubb84 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Colts_Fan12 said: Just fire him damn I mean......RIGHT?! I get that he isn't well liked around here, but I sort of feel bad for the man. Continues to get eggs on his face from these coaching candidates reports Weekly. I feel him staying at this point will be extremely counterproductive to the season as it will be a lame duck season. Find a NEW GM, pull the plug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 Not sure how I would feel if this happened. I think Luck would kill it in Paytons offense, but Paytons defenses are always awful. If we want a coach with a bad defense, we should just keep what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, achcolts said: Wow... looks like pagano isn't safe unless it's jimmy raye, which is likely. Maybe if changes don't happen this season they will next would have welcomed him ... hope you're wrong about the pagano/jimmy raye pairing, but now that the head-coaching "experience bar" is now lower, if we could snag a Matt Patricia or someone like that... looks like that we will have to wait for 2018 for a new coach though. i hope we are surprised by new developments but doubting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelt Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, 1959Colts said: And in other news... Reports are that the Colts reached out to Rich Kotite. Kotite however has declined the offer. Irsay says he plans to move forward with Chuck Pagano. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Pagano had too much pride to accept a one year deal and instead banked on himself going into the 2015 year. I wonder how that pride fits in with all these reports that the Colts have tried to find his replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Alexander Morillo Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The ride never ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said: Not sure how I would feel if this happened. I think Luck would kill it in Paytons offense, but Paytons defenses are always awful. If we want a coach with a bad defense, we should just keep what we have. Exactly! If we are going be saddled with a mediocre coach at least we don't lose draft picks behind it. Ugh...I am glad that this trade fell apart personally. Colts going after Gruden and Payton is indicative of the thin coaching market this year in my opinion. I'm relieved none of those moves happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Why is this getting leaked now? Odd timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said: Not sure how I would feel if this happened. I think Luck would kill it in Paytons offense, but Paytons defenses are always awful. If we want a coach with a bad defense, we should just keep what we have. Then again, I also think guys like Payton could use our offense to its fullest potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masnerj Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Irsay going after Payton is not surprising (even the fact that it happened two years in a row). I am actually happy that nothing got done because to pry him away from the Saints would take atleast a 3rd or 4th round pick which I certainly don't think would be a good idea. We need those picks to build a defense. More picks = higher chances of nabbing a starter. Now that we are going to have a atleast a decent GM who drafts atleast average to better than average (assumption yes), those picks become important. After all of these leaks, I would think that even Pagano knows that there is a very very small chance he comes back after this upcoming season so I definitely see him being fired by the new GM. Irsay is in a tricky position right now in terms of dealing with the new GM hire but also maintaining whatever slim connection he has with Pagano. In my opinion, I see a new GM being hired followed by Pagano being fired. However, if Raye is hired, you can bet on another year of Pagano being our HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, 1959Colts said: And in other news... Reports are that the Colts reached out to Rich Kotite. Kotite however has declined the offer. Irsay says he plans to move forward with Chuck Pagano. That is hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derakynn Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Yeah I'd love a coach who can't get his team to have a decent enough defense to get on of the greatest QBs of all time into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I'm telling you, he left the door open to firing Pagano, he made the same exact comments regarding Jim caldwell after he fired Polian, IF IF IF IF the reports of Gruden not wanting to work with Grigson were true, I wouldn't be surprised to see those talks reignited. Not advocating for Gruden, I just think with Grigs out of the picture based on the twitter comments from players and former players, it MAY open up some new talks with high valued targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Irsay going after good offensive minds makes sense, I think. We did the whole great QB playing under a defensive minded coach in Peyton and Dungy, and that was great. And I'm not saying Jim is actively wanting to go the opposite route but I almost wonder if he wants to bring in a mind like Gruden or Payton and just have a dominant offense. He's talked at length about how this team is built, that Andrew Luck and the offense needs to show up every game. I think it makes sense to look for a HC who could help boost our offense to that elite level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradgt04 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Malakai432 said: Just got an update, has to make Pagano feel great.... Not that I'm a SP fan, or Pagano for that matter. No kidding. I would feel betrayed even though I didn't do that well as a coach. And/or "man, I'm only the coach because my boss could t find a replacement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaAllDay757 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Don't need payton here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#12. Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said: Exactly! If we are going be saddled with a mediocre coach at least we don't lose draft picks Yes, and with Grigson gone, draft picks are now worth more. If Grigson's picking, what's a second rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said: Gruden and Payton. Jim seems to be looking for experienced HC's, specifically SB experience. Sure does. Mike Shanahan is out there too and it won't cost us any picks. I think if he picks a new GM this week and it's not Raye something could still happen. It has been that kind of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, bradgt04 said: No kidding. I would feel betrayed even though I didn't do that well as a coach. And/or "man, I'm only the coach because my boss could t find a replacement" Yeah it's always nice to know your just not really wanted. He's sure getting paid though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Irsay should go back to the negotiating table with Gruden. GM & HC. Blank check. Get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Maybe the firing of Grigson reignites the Payton and Gruden talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 21 minutes ago, csmopar said: I'm telling you, he left the door open to firing Pagano, he made the same exact comments regarding Jim caldwell after he fired Polian, IF IF IF IF the reports of Gruden not wanting to work with Grigson were true, I wouldn't be surprised to see those talks reignited. Not advocating for Gruden, I just think with Grigs out of the picture based on the twitter comments from players and former players, it MAY open up some new talks with high valued targets I took Irsay as to say Pagano would be back next year. Interesting that you think he "left the door open" to the contrary . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Another unsubstantiated report. It did say ownership wasn't involved so it might have been their forum talking to ours to work out a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backshoulderfade Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Smonroe said: Another unsubstantiated report. It did say ownership wasn't involved so it might have been their forum talking to ours to work out a deal. Apparently a saints rep called Pete Ward. Colts declined to trade for him. Don't know if that counts as us persuing him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, backshoulderfade said: Apparently a saints rep called Pete Ward. Colts declined to trade for him. Don't know if that counts as us persuing him anyway. Yeah, apparently the Saints had a few inquiries. Not sure why, a bunch of 7-9 seasons with a franchise QB wouldn't make him popular here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#12. Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, dw49 said: I took Irsay as to say Pagano would be back next year. Interesting that you think he "left the door open" to the contrary . He also said he was just talking football with Manning and Gruden. Haven't even hired the GM yet. Who knows what might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Looks like he only wants to move on from Pagano if it is a coach with super bowl experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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