Luck and receivers: 406 yards, 4TDs. Runners: 61 yards, 0 TDs

[DalTXColtsFan]

And defense makes Stafford, Riddick and Abdullah (not to mention Tate, Jones and Boldin) look like the best offense in NFL history.

 

How long have Colts fans had to endure teams that could put up the NFL's best passing attack but have no running game or defense?

 

I'm getting a little tired of it.

[Ja'Crispy]

We are a finesse offense.  We are not a ground and pound offense.  We need to accept this and thrive in it. 

[SVFD Colts Fan]

What do you expect when 1 of your 4 healthy cornerbacks goes down and you are on your 4th string safety by the 3rd quarter.

 

[DougDew]

Gore ran fine.  He seemed to get a crease up the middle and bull ahead for even more yardage.

 

But again, when you fall behind, you don't have much of a chance to run the ball in a normal sense.

[krunk]

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

[NorthernBlue]

Well to be fair, the Colts went down early and pretty much had to rely on the pass attack exclusively after the third drive. Later in the game, they ran a bit better. That one TD drive that stared at our own 6 wouldn't have happened if Gore didn't pick up some key yards on second down to get some breathing room.

[Archangel]

I think Ferguson gives the colts the edge they need IMOP after what I saw against the lions

 

[ColtsSouljah]

28 minutes ago, SVFD Colts Fan said:

What do you expect when 1 of your 4 healthy cornerbacks goes down and you are on your 4th string safety by the 3rd quarter.

 

 

That does not explain the run defense being absolutely gashed. Our guys were out of position, showed no discipline, and could not tackle. None of that has anything to do with injuries to dbs.

[BOTT]

The colts defense currently stinks, but the Lions offense is picking up were they left off last season.  JIM BOB COOTER!!

[krunk]

I like the element Ferguson adds to the passing game. Still waiting on him to gain some positive yardage on a real running play.

[BleedBlu8792]

31 minutes ago, krunk said:

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

I was saying this exact same thing watching the game.. 

[adamthyst]

Offense had a little bit of a slow start but they looked great out there. Can't say the same for the defense.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

26 minutes ago, krunk said:

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

 

Gore is old.

Maybe it wouldn't have been such a bad idea to have picked up a RB in last years or this years draft?

A pass rusher and a coverage LB would have been nice too.

[Happy2BeHere]

34 minutes ago, krunk said:

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

He only had 14 carries today...and he ran for more than 4 YPC...I think he did well. He just didn't get enough carries IMO...we abandoned the running game more or less but like was said before some of that is because of how far we were behind and when you are behind you have to move fast.

[krunk]

1 minute ago, BleedBlu8792 said:

I was saying this exact same thing watching the game.. 

We should have kept Ridley and let go of Todman. At least we'd have somebody with some explosion.

[BleedBlu8792]

Just now, krunk said:

We should have kept Ridley and let go of Todman. At least we'd have somebody with some explosion.

I'm with you. I thought they gave up on Ridley a little too quickly.

[CHR_11]

Maybe we let Turbin get a few carries?

[BOTT]

13 minutes ago, krunk said:

I like the element Ferguson adds to the passing game. Still waiting on him to gain some positive yardage on a real running play.

[Ja'Crispy]

46 minutes ago, krunk said:

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

He certainly looked slow on the screens.  That's where I like Ferguson though. As a receiving back, I think he shows promise.

[AZColt11]

Ferguson will make some big plays this season.  I am confident in that.  But Gore is fine.  He had 4 ypc.  He just didn't get much of an opportunity because we got down 21-3.  Not much running to be done when you need to score quickly.  

[RockThatBlue]

1 hour ago, krunk said:

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

I wish they would run Turbin more. Its obvious Gore can't do it by himself. 

[RockThatBlue]

1 hour ago, Archangel said:

I think Ferguson gives the colts the edge they need IMOP after what I saw against the lions

 

He reminded me of a smaller and faster Bradshaw. I'm glad we used him to his strengths this game. 

[CanuckColt]

1 hour ago, krunk said:

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

Yeah, that's what it looks like to me too.

Frank has a big heart and gives 100 percent all the time, but Father Time has caught up with him...and all the other RBs just fill out the RB roster.

The Colts need to draft a big good RB next year to be a real threat and take some of the heat off Andrew....like Edgerrin did for Peyton. And if Grigs does not want to take a RB early then Big Jim will have to tell him how it is.

We really need this, and late rounders just do not work.

 

[chad72]

Great for fantasy football though, our sorry D

 

Sproles, then Riddick, and pretty soon Woodhead vs Chargers, I can see it coming a mile away.

[Smoke317]

6 hours ago, krunk said:

I haven't wanted to say it before, but Gore looks old out there. Had some decent runs out there later on but he doesnt have any speed left

Gore most certainly looks old and Turbin needs to be getting half of those carries and touches. 

[Iancolts]

Gonna give the defense a pass this game.  We were out of safeties and Cornerbacks by start of third quarter.  You can't win a game with 3rd/4th stringers.  But the offense is again slow start.  Why does is take Pagano so long to start attacking a defense.  It seems like the colts like do be down then they can start playing.  And even if our defense gets healthy we have a long season.  Grigson I'm not sure how he still has a job. He is in year 5 and all of the salary cap money is spent.  He signs good contracts but man did he ruin this team.  Grigson has set the colts back 3 years or so we need a new GM to rebuild again.  Luck is now 27 I see us getting to the SB when he is 30 if we get a new GM ASAP!

[krunk]

2 hours ago, Smoke317 said:

Gore most certainly looks old and Turbin needs to be getting half of those carries and touches. 

Turbin does need more carries

[DougDew]

16 minutes ago, Iancolts said:

Gonna give the defense a pass this game.  We were out of safeties and Cornerbacks by start of third quarter.  You can't win a game with 3rd/4th stringers.  But the offense is again slow start.  Why does is take Pagano so long to start attacking a defense.  It seems like the colts like do be down then they can start playing.  And even if our defense gets healthy we have a long season.  Grigson I'm not sure how he still has a job. He is in year 5 and all of the salary cap money is spent.  He signs good contracts but man did he ruin this team.  Grigson has set the colts back 3 years or so we need a new GM to rebuild again.  Luck is now 27 I see us getting to the SB when he is 30 if we get a new GM ASAP!

Valid points.  To the bolded:  I thought the play calling didn't help.  Not blaming Chud, but Luck at one point was 5 for 6...for 37 yards.  A lot of dink and dunk stuff to start the game.  I think we were feeling out the Olines ability to block Detroit's DL.  Once the Oline showed it could handle Det,  a lot more down filed stuff was called.

 

5 for 6 for 37 yards was the problem.  Between Gore, Turbin, and Allen, the Colts don't have the players that can get a lot of YAC when getting the ball in space.  Contrast our RBs with Abdullah and Riddick, who are very good.

 

Maybe Ferguson will get more opportunities to make dunk plays more profitable.

[Lawrence Owen]

Gore was never a burner, he's been a pounder that wears a defense down and gets most of his yards in the 2nd half.  But when your secondary is 3/4 in stitches,...and the other team has a passing game,...you're not running much,....especially when they get up 21-3.

There was a LOT to like about our offense in this game...(especially Dorsett showing that he really may have been worth the !st round pick).

We had too many guys out there that just didn't have enough time to work with the rest of the team and get 'used' to one another on the defensive side of the ball.  I for one hope Robinson passes concussion protocol, and Greens knee isn't a big deal.   The sooner we get Vonte back, the better.  And either Green or Geathers.

Moore played well, was everywhere.  He needs to be included in more blitzes though IMO.  

O-line did great in protection also...especially the right side.  A.C. messed up 2 times in a row early on.  But Ngata could not get past Good or Kelly.  That is a big upside.

If the O can get in sync from the start of a game,...even with our defensive injury problems, they have shown they could out gun anyone.  35 points normally wins any game.  If they have started like that...50 easy.

[Defjamz26]

That's the Colts for you though. Hitched their Running game to an old and slow Frank Gore . And behind him is a bunch of question marks.

 

Colts desperately need to get s RB in next year's draft.

[krunk]

I think we will play better against Denver. Should maybe get Butler and Geathers back. Robinson if he clears concussion protocol. Not sure if TJ plays. Overall the whole group will have another week to get their run fits, communication and tackling down. One of the reporters spoke about Vontae possibly being back but not sure that will happen. Hes been out about a month now so maybe. We may have a better chance against Denver. They dont have the same personnel as Detroit when it comes to using running backs in the passing game. Cromartie can shut down Demarious Thomas and we will deal with the rest. We are very familiar with how we want to play their offense. I dont think Simiean can do what Stafford was able to do.

[will426]

I'm tired of this man scheme style off running we aren't strong enough for it  and what happened to all of the "zone concept" running plays that were talked about during TC and preseason I think id there was a cut back lane we'd do fine running but we run it straight up the middle 96% of the time and everyone knows it 

[backshoulderfade]

We are missing 2 of our to 3 defensive players. This team can go as far if healthy.

[krunk]

I'll keep watching but I think Gore is at the point where Edgertin James was before Polian let him go. Can still make a play or two, but no explosion. Even the five to 10 yard runs looked slow yesterday. I hope I'm misjudging this. I really do.

[WarGhost21]

While I agree the run game wasn't the best, it did enough to keep the defense honest. Other than that, the 406 passing yards and 4 touchdowns easily makes up for what was lacking in the running department. While the defense was horrific, you have to remember that by the end of the game we only had 5 healthy members of the secondary who had to play every single down. Fatigue and inexperience definitely played a part in the final drive by the Lions.

[Pacergeek]

At this point in his career, Gore is a backup. Grigson sucks so bad at evaluating RB's, we have nobody better to player

[#12.]

Gore looked like Gore to start 2015 - about five years older today.  But that's what a year behind this O-line will do to you, especially at his age.

 

If anyone thinks, though, that Pagano will bench his Miami comrade - "the heart and soul of the team" - they're crazy.  It took two years to bench Richardson, a player who, it was obvious to most, had no business being in this league. 

[Coffeedrinker]

9 hours ago, ColtsSouljah said:

 

That does not explain the run defense being absolutely gashed. Our guys were out of position, showed no discipline, and could not tackle. None of that has anything to do with injuries to dbs.

Well, it kind of does.  Mainly because of the CB situation the safeties had to stay back more instead of coming up to support the run.  Not to mention that a CB like Davis is also excellent at supporting the run.  

 

I'm not syaing they played well or even average or even below average the D was horrid, but football is a team game it's not like the CBs and safeties are only responsibile for the passing game and Dline and LBers are only responsible for the running game.  When you are weak in one area it affects all the other areas as well... and when you are extremely weak in one area it affects all the other areas even more so.

[Coffeedrinker]

23 minutes ago, krunk said:

I'll keep watching but I think Gore is at the point where Edgertin James was before Polian let him go. Can still make a play or two, but no explosion. Even the five to 10 yard runs looked slow yesterday. I hope I'm misjudging this. I really do.

I thought Gore looked ok.  I don't ever remember him being a jump cut type runner, more of a hit the crease and lower the shoulder type and I think he did that.  If the d had him stopped for a 2 yard gain he would move the pile for a 4 yard gain.

 

The player I think your comment apply to is Mathis... no burst off the snap, no moves once engaged, he made a nice tackle downfield on a RB in the first half but on passing plays all he did was run upfield

[James]

Fournette, Chubb, Cook, McCaffrey.

 

If none of the top pass rushers are available, then get one of the above RBs.