MTC Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) EDIT: Wilson reported this on the Dan Dakich show earlier today. With Joe Reitz and Hugh Thornton both being ruled out, Phillip B Wilson reports that Lance Louis will start over Khaled Holmes at RG.Harrison will remain as starting center./pukeI feel bad for Luck. Edited December 13, 2014 by MTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 harrison and louis against watt. why dont they just put in a 5 year old little girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 harrison and louis against watt. why dont they just put in a 5 year old little girl She's too busy playing QB for the Texans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austriancolt Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I don't like it. I don't like how the Colts are gambling with their Offensive Line and the health of their franchise QB. Look I like Harrison and he maybe will be a good Center at some point in his career but there is a reason he went undrafted and if you are in a win now modus Shipley provides more help. Lance Louis was bad in Chicago and he was bad in the few games he played for the Colts. Besides the Mewhort draft the Colts did not much regarding one of their biggest weaknesses this offseason. I really like Grigson and he did some great work but on the OLine I think he makes one mistake after another! Third straight year with inconsistent Line play as best is a disappointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslo1812 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 We're in trouble!!!! Watt is gonna have a field day. And run game will not exist!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I told you all several posts ago.. IF the "staffs guys" are ready they will play. Now I think Ship has done well.. but Rick V agrees with the Harrison move.. BUT at G, Rick really liked what KH did... and of course he will not get rewarded for good play? I don't get it.. Oh well.. Here is Rick V talking to Grady and Big Joe about the matchup and specifically the C position at about 15 minutes. http://www.1070thefan.com/blogs/grady-and-big-joe-show/audio-demand/depth-coltstexans-preview-rick-venturi good stuff and Rick is calling all the changes that do happen WEEKS before this staff finally make the move... Really puzzling.With Joe Reitz and Hugh Thornton both being ruled out, Phillip B Wilson reports that Lance Louis will start over Khaled Holmes at RG.Harrison will remain as starting center./pukeI feel bad for Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moopsiepuffs Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Shipley must have crapped in someone's Cheerios. Benched for no reason early in the season and benched again following a good performance against the Browns. A much better performance than Harrison's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 These coaching decisions leave me speechless. What is their beef with Holmes? When him and Shipley were in the game there was absolutely no pressure coming up the middle. I watched Harrison and Reitz get thrown around like children. I seriously hate whoever is making these decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If I owned this team and saw Lance Louis trot out to start this game , I would fire Pagano before the game ended. The man played horrible enough in some early starts to be inactive the last 4-5 games and now he starts over Holmes who played well last week ? Insane.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbear Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Lance Louis? Has he had even one good game this year? He reminds me of Samson Satele if he were to play G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Ouch...... Our line sucks. All the good guys are on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Is this a joke??? Well maybe after 3 or 4 sacks, several knock downs, and maybe a forced fumble or two Pagano will put Holmes and/or Shipley in. I just don't get it. Holmes played pretty well last week. Why not start him??? I can understand Harrison because they seem to see something in him (other than bad snaps) but seriously Lance Louis sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ja'Crispy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 RIP AndrewThanks for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Very disappointing. Very. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 This is a joke right,His press conference Pagano said "I don't know" when asked if Holmes would start at RG"Dakich asked him was about who would be starting along the offensive line. "Do you really wanna know?" Phil B. asked, which of course Dakich answered with a yes. After a pause, Wilson said, "well... my understanding, and I can't tell you how I know but I know, is that [Jonotthan] Harrison will start at center, Lance Louis will be the right guard, and [Khaled] Holmes will back up Louis at guard." Dakich then followed up with a clarifying question that A.Q. Shipley would then back up Harrison at center. Phil B. offered a long "uhhhh" before dropping another nugget: that he's been told that Shipley will be inactive. Dakich was rightly shocked, and Phil B. also said that, "I can't tell you how I know, but a couple of us, two or three of us, know, and you know, it was a shock." Wilson added that, "I couldn't believe it when I heard it, and part of me thought it was just a lie and I thought, well we'll wait until Sunday to see. But all indications are that what I was told is gonna happen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 unreal, this really makes me take in consideration all the people wanting paganos head coaching job re evaluated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 unreal, this really makes me take in consideration all the people wanting paganos head coaching job re evaluatedI never understood why but now its kind of dawning on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesd2890 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Wow.. they must really not like holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Patience.. this is a big last few games for Chuck... If I owned this team and saw Lance Louis trot out to start this game , I would fire Pagano before the game ended. The man played horrible enough in some early starts to be inactive the last 4-5 games and now he starts over Holmes who played well last week ? Insane.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 These coaching decisions leave me speechless. What is their beef with Holmes? When him and Shipley were in the game there was absolutely no pressure coming up the middle. I watched Harrison and Reitz get thrown around like children. I seriously hate whoever is making these decisions.Shipley really didn't play that good... Holmes did yes, but Shipley didn't... There was no when Shipley and Holmes came in we started playing better, it happened when Holmes came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Wow.. they must really not like holmesOr Shipley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moopsiepuffs Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Shipley really didn't play that good... Holmes did yes, but Shipley didn't... There was no when Shipley and Holmes came in we started playing better, it happened when Holmes came in.Considering Harrison was at fault for the hit on Luck which caused the fumble, I would say the line played better when Shipley came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Horseman Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Considering Harrison was at fault for the hit on Luck which caused the fumble, I would say the line played better when Shipley came in. Basing the line playing better off of one play is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moopsiepuffs Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Basing the line playing better off of one play is silly.I'm not basing it off that one play. I said earlier in this thread that I belive Shipley performed better in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I don't mind Harrison at center he is alright and Shipley is by no means any better. But Louis over Holmes is extremely mind boggling and frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 SERIOUSLY!!! :[ so lucks gong to get hit 10 times. Sacked 3 (fumble 1) and at least three times when everybody playing ball and Harrison still hasn't moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaCaliColt Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 With Joe Reitz and Hugh Thornton both being ruled out, Phillip B Wilson reports that Lance Louis will start over Khaled Holmes at RG.Harrison will remain as starting center./pukeI feel bad for Luck.This group better step up big time cause it's comin...And I haven't seen much to build my confidence. I'm expecting we barely pull this one out again...And, that's the most positive thing I can say at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Patience.. this is a big last few games for Chuck... ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 IF... Herron and Moncrief do not get at least 70% of their positions snaps then this staff is totally clueless. WTH ... they WON the game for Indy last week. They "make things happen" .. If they cannot get on the field how will anyone else? Whatever.. It's Chuck's job... and Jimmy H is going to be a free agent.. if fired? I would give first for him. This group better step up big time cause it's comin...And I haven't seen much to build my confidence. I'm expecting we barely pull this one out again...And, that's the most positive thing I can say at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 This is the one area that i cannot stand pagano... If he could stop being so stubborn.. He's a good coach and even better guy but jeeze it's easier for him to admit defeat to the Patriots, steelers than it is his own personnel failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock8591 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Lance Louis made me miss Jeff Linkenbach. Never thought Id' be saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 So everyone here knows more than the coaches? I'm not defending Louis, I've seen his play.What I haven't seen is practice this week. I'm willing to give the coaches the benefit of the doubt.Apparently I'm in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ell_chrisso Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Castonzo Mewhort Shipley Holmes Cherilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Hey hey hey hey no guys, getting demolished by JJ Watt is good practice for them..... No need to get worried, lol..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts8718 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 With Joe Reitz and Hugh Thornton both being ruled out, Phillip B Wilson reports that Lance Louis will start over Khaled Holmes at RG.Harrison will remain as starting center./pukeI feel bad for Luck.This is the reason we traded for Richardson because of his great blocking skills Good luck Andrew hope your in the mood to run for your life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubu Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't get not letting Holmes get rewarded for doing a fine job in the last game. Louis has shown nothing more than Satele and Shipley showed at guard for last season. I don't understand who is making the calls for the personnel on the line. Does the oline coach give his preference and Pagano gives him the benefit of the doubt or does Pagano pick it completely with little input from anyone else. Someone is making poor choices. I'd be ticked if I were Holmes and I've lost my job to Harrison and then when the chance comes up, I lost it out to Louis as well. Shakes head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 With Joe Reitz and Hugh Thornton both being ruled out, Phillip B Wilson reports that Lance Louis will start over Khaled Holmes at RG.Harrison will remain as starting center./pukeI feel bad for Luck. This is a joke right,His press conference Pagano said "I don't know" when asked if Holmes would start at RG"Dakich asked him was about who would be starting along the offensive line. "Do you really wanna know?" Phil B. asked, which of course Dakich answered with a yes. After a pause, Wilson said, "well... my understanding, and I can't tell you how I know but I know, is that [Jonotthan] Harrison will start at center, Lance Louis will be the right guard, and [Khaled] Holmes will back up Louis at guard." Dakich then followed up with a clarifying question that A.Q. Shipley would then back up Harrison at center. Phil B. offered a long "uhhhh" before dropping another nugget: that he's been told that Shipley will be inactive. Dakich was rightly shocked, and Phil B. also said that, "I can't tell you how I know, but a couple of us, two or three of us, know, and you know, it was a shock." Wilson added that, "I couldn't believe it when I heard it, and part of me thought it was just a lie and I thought, well we'll wait until Sunday to see. But all indications are that what I was told is gonna happen" Do either of you have a link? A tweet? A podcast? A recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB-ColtsFan Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 So everyone here knows more than the coaches? I'm not defending Louis, I've seen his play.What I haven't seen is practice this week. I'm willing to give the coaches the benefit of the doubt.Apparently I'm in the minority.I normally agree regarding the practice quote, BUT, last week there was a VERY noticeable difference when Holmes and Ship were in together. Unless one/both of them got hurt in practice I would reason that they have good chemistry together and should stay together (on the field, not on the bench).I've been a Chuck supporter since he's been here, but I am also starting to think that we can do better, and it's time for a change. I hope he explains this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't like it. I don't like how the Colts are gambling with their Offensive Line and the health of their franchise QB. Look I like Harrison and he maybe will be a good Center at some point in his career but there is a reason he went undrafted and if you are in a win now modus Shipley provides more help. Lance Louis was bad in Chicago and he was bad in the few games he played for the Colts. Besides the Mewhort draft the Colts did not much regarding one of their biggest weaknesses this offseason. I really like Grigson and he did some great work but on the OLine I think he makes one mistake after another! Third straight year with inconsistent Line play as best is a disappointment! Its not from lack of trying. Good offensive linemen are very hard to find. All the teams in the NFL struggle in that area. Very few good offensive linemen are found in the free agency market. Most are overpaid or past their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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