The 2 point conversion penalty

[RockThatBlue]

So...was that an actual penalty or not?

[John Waylon]

No. It was really bogus. Especially the way it was called. It wasn't called until the Bills appealed for it. This is the kind of stuff that referees should be punished for. 

 

But referees get the eternal free pass. I go to my job and make a horrendous mistake, I face some kind of discipline. NFL Referees % the bed week in and week out, no one says a word. There is a sore lack of accountability in sports officiating these days based on the outdated thinking that to point out their mistakes and fix them is somehow worse than letting them make mistakes to begin with.

[IndyD4U]

Total nonsense call! Flag thrown late at that 

[oldunclemark]

51 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

So...was that an actual penalty or not?

That play is legal at the line of scrimmage.

Then refs blew the call and cost us the game..and they will admit it this week...

 

The Packers and Patriots run that play all the time

[RockThatBlue]

2 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

Total nonsense call! Flag thrown late at that 

Yeah the timing was ridiculous. They waited for the celebrating to end and then threw a flag.

[chad72]

2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

That play is legal at the line of scrimmage.

Then refs blew the call and cost us the game..and they will admit it this week...

 

The Packers and Patriots run that play all the time

 

This is the key point, at the line of scrimmage. Nonsense call.

[oldunclemark]

    Aaron Rodgers runs that play all the ****-***** time and its never called..

.....Buffalo talked the refs into a bogus call.

 

Those guys should be reffing Division III next week,.

[Fisticuffs111]

Apparently, from reading Holder's twitter, the refs told Aiken that it was a penalty because they said he blocked his defender into the endzone.

 

But yeah, it seemed like it all happened within a yard of the LOS, shouldn't have been flagged.

 

[oldunclemark]

12 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Apparently, from reading Holder's twitter, the refs told Aiken that it was a penalty because they said he blocked his defender into the endzone.

 

But yeah, seemed like it was within a yard of the LOS.

 

Really?/  Its tough to tell with the snow...but I dont think that's true...

The ref might want to look at the tape and see if he still thinks that

Edited December 11, 2017 by oldunclemark

[Indyfan4life]

Certain plays are only allowed when you’re a certain team. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

It was one of the worse calls I ever seen actually but since DeflateGate I am used to it. Thanks league.

[oldunclemark]

..and if you saw it as a foul...why did it take 30 seconds and some Buffalo players running their mouths to call it?

 

Brady and Brees and Rodgers get that call 8 days a week.  Peyton ran that game all the time

[oldunclemark]

4 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

Certain plays are only allowed when you’re a certain team. 

exactly right

[Fisticuffs111]

9 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Really?/  Its tough to tell with the snow...but I dont think that's true...

The ref might want to look at the tape and see if he still thinks that

 
Yeah, apparently Aiken said that's not the way it happened. I wouldn't be surprised if one ref "saw" it and was adamant that it's what happened, even though it doesn't look like it did.

[PeterBowman]

Biggest bunch of bovine excrement I've seen in a long time.....the type of game deciding calls that gives refs an even worse reputation.

[JCPatriot]

6 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

..and if you saw it as a foul...why did it take 30 seconds and some Buffalo players running their mouths to call it?

 

Could be that the visibility was poor, the ref thought that he saw a penalty but did not have enough confidence to call it, and then the Buffalo players started complaining about the same thing the ref thought he saw.  That could have given the ref the little additional bit of confidence in what he thought he saw to throw the flag.  I'm not saying that is what happened.  I'm just speculating.

[GoBlue12]

It gets down to this. If you are looking for something in advance you're more likely to see it. Ala fake news.

[PeterBowman]

Maybe, maybe not lol.....we shall see lol

[JCPatriot]

16 minutes ago, GoBlue12 said:

It gets down to this. If you are looking for something in advance you're more likely to see it. Ala fake news.

 

That's not fake news.  It's called confirmation bias.  It is something that engineers and scientists have to be aware of and try not to engage in any time that they are analyzing data.

[Malakai432]

From what it seems like from the commentators it was a bad call.  I wouldn’t be surprised if the Colts get an apology.  

 

“Hey, hows it going there?  I hope your day is going ok.  By the way we are sorry for royally screwing up.  I know, it happens often.  Thank you and have a nice day.

 

Sincerely,

The NFL

 

*Please do not reply, it Is not needed”

[oldunclemark]

42 minutes ago, JCPatriot said:

 

Could be that the visibility was poor, the ref thought that he saw a penalty but did not have enough confidence to call it, and then the Buffalo players started complaining about the same thing the ref thought he saw.  That could have given the ref the little additional bit of confidence in what he thought he saw to throw the flag.  I'm not saying that is what happened.  I'm just speculating.

That's very possible, JC

 

..of course,. its also possible he was a Mickey Mouse Brady Bunch wimp who let the big mouth home team players and crowd bully him into something he felt maybe he 'should have seen' but didnt

Edited December 11, 2017 by oldunclemark

[IinD]

Felt like getting a ticket for driving 36 in a 35. 

[ricker182]

It's 100% a legal play. 

 

You're allowed to pass block within one yard of the LOS.  

  

No idea why they flagged it >30 seconds after the play.  

  

They literally changed the outcome of the game because the referees don't know the rules.  

  

If this was a team fighting for a playoff spot this would be headline news on all the sports networks.  

  

In the end, I think I'm done watching the NFL after this season. I might tune into a couple a Colts games since I'm a die hard, but the product the NFL has now is garbage. 

[ColtsBlitz]

Since Aiken was on the LOS, it wasn’t a penalty. But once again, referees will go unscathed while Aiken may take a hit to his rep for that. Very unlikely, but it really frustrates me that refs can’t be fined or fired for stuff like that. They have literally no penalty for a miss-call by the league. 

[Superman]

52 minutes ago, Introspect said:

You will get a note from the mods for saying that and have your post removed. I was banned for 24 hours because i said feces. Just a heads up.

 

Bad karma around here my man

 

No, you got a personal shot warning for calling someone a clueless piece of fecal waste. 

[JCPatriot]

4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

No, you got a personal shot warning for calling someone a clueless piece of fecal waste.

 

...but he's not bitter.

[Superman]

Just now, JCPatriot said:

 

...but he's not bitter.

 

Clearly. 

[twfish]

8 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

No, you got a personal shot warning for calling someone a clueless piece of fecal waste. 

Talk about a sentence I'd never expect to make me laugh so hard 

[jvan1973]

Might as well lose the rest.   

[GoColts8818]

Poor call but it is what it is.

[jameszeigler834]

3 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

So...was that an actual penalty or not?

That call was nonsense colts got screwed.

[Thorolf]

To me it just looked like someone told the ref "  psst...There's an extra thousand  coming your way in a plain brown envelope if you can figure out a way to negate that 2 point conversion ..."

[deedub75]

Am I the only one who was happy about the penalty?

[Introspect]

6 hours ago, twfish said:

Talk about a sentence I'd never expect to make me laugh so hard 

 

You would love my material.. But 75% gets issued warnings......

I will not call out anyone on the forum for racism or being unjust. Will stick to giving it to to refs and boosting unrealistic expectations. 10-4... roger that

... I can't find the flock... i'm looking

[crazycolt1]

9 minutes ago, Introspect said:

 

You would love my material.. But 75% gets issued warnings......

I will not call out anyone on the forum for racism or being unjust. Will stick to giving it to to refs and boosting unrealistic expectations. 10-4... roger that

... I can't find the flock... i'm looking

You are evidently looking in the wrong place.

[Colts_Fan12]

5 hours ago, deedub75 said:

Am I the only one who was happy about the penalty?

Nope 

[Gyworks]

7 hours ago, deedub75 said:

Am I the only one who was happy about the penalty?

My thoughts exactly. It saved us the 3rd overall draft pick 

[WarGhost21]

To quote what Bob Lamey had to say when this happened, "Even when we win we can't win!"

[Coltsman1788]

Colts got robbed.  Simple as that. What the refs did was akin to snatching a piece of bread out of the hands of a hungry child.  Right after they said thank you and smiled.  lol

[lollygagger8]

The call was whack, but at least our draft pick order still looks good........? 

 

Trying to be positive. Probably wrong forum for that, I know.