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Just now, 1959Colts said:

I always only want to win

Yeah of course. Bur I think we would all of been ok if Richardson played and developed and showed flashes bur didn’t make playoffs. Not saying we weren’t going to win with Richardson because I think we would have. But now it will be a big disappointed if we don’t make playoffs because we didn’t get to see Richardson and we didn’t win. 

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23 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When the season started I think we all understood the number one thing was Richardson getting ready for 24. Now that it’s Minshew has your mind now shifted to wins are the number one priority. Because if we lose and don’t have Richardson we really haven’t accomplished anything.

No. Cause even if we lose out, I still think we need better weapons to help AR long term, and a higher pick can turn into higher success rates of success or more picks if traded back, which is do if Marv 2.0 isn’t an option when we pick. 

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1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Yeah of course. Bur I think we would all of been ok if Richardson played and developed and showed flashes bur didn’t make playoffs. Not saying we weren’t going to win with Richardson because I think we would have. But now it will be a big disappointed if we don’t make playoffs because we didn’t get to see Richardson and we didn’t win. 

You might be okay but I wouldn’t be okay not making the playoffs.  If we were a terrible team in a complete rebuild mode I would be able to accept it better.  But we are not.  We are a very good competitive team in a very winnable division.  The players are playing their butts off to make the playoffs and have a chance at a title.  They risk injury every play.  Their careers are short.  Minchew or AR doesn’t matter.  You play to win the game.  I’m hoping Ballard makes a move or two at the deadline to make the team even better.  For me the future is now.  I will worry about next year when we are eliminated.

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37 minutes ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:

Yes it does. Now i expect to win now lol

This is exactly what I mean. I wanted to win with Richardson and we still might of. But it wasn’t the end of the world if he looked good and had some growing pains along the way. What was the purpose if we don’t make the playoffs with Minshew. Nothing really got accomplished if Richardson doesn’t come back. Richardson didn’t develop as he should and we missed the playoffs.

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1 hour ago, #12. said:

I think we've arrived at the point in the Indianapolis Colts story where, as a fan,  you just go with the flow.  

 

There's a game on Sunday?  Cool, I guess I'll watch it.

This. I was watching just to see AR develop. I was pleasantly surprised with our success bc I thought we would struggle. Unfortunately, I think the season is toast now and Minshew will get exposed as the backup he is fairly soon.  He is a great backup but this team is going to struggle the next couple months. Im sure I will watch plenty of games but if my family wants to go do something on game day I will probably be on board. They have always respected me wanting to watch the games. After Saturday took over last year I started skipping 1/3 of them to do things with the family. Probably will happen some more this year.  Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I’ve been watching them for years(maybe decades) religiously. I thought skipping games would be difficult but the past couple years have not been very entertaining and more frustrating than anything. So to answer the question…yeah my mind has shifted to I have no expectations for the rest of the season. I will watch when I can and wait and see what happens 

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Well, I've got nothing better to do, so I'll watch the games(lol), but I'm not thinking big picture in any way.  For years with Manning and Luck, you were thinking big picture, expecting multiple titles, etc.  Now, it's game-to-game, week-to-week.  We'll see what happens this week.   You're  not thinking about much beyond Sunday.

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I think many underestimated how much talent this team has. The narrative was the O Line is in shambles, not enough weapons on offense and D was too soft. Well the O line just destroyed a solid Tenn D, both Moss and JT are threats. Downs had a breakout game at WR, MPJ is his usual solid self and our young TE's are making plays. Our D line is stout and deep, our top LB may lead the league in tackling for a 2nd straight year and we havent seen the best from our former top LB.

 

This team is in the thick of the South title, win Sunday and obvious front runners, lose then still nipping at Jags heels. Young squad but not a rebuild as many thought. I stated before and will again...management through we could make playoffs and signed a Kicker to highest contract in league to win close games so we had a chance at sliding into the post season. he wasnt signed for the future he was signed for THIS season and the future.

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I’m going to be honest. A part of me lost the excitement I had once it was clear that Richardson was done for a long time. 
 

Still support the team, still hope they win. I’ve seen good Minshew and bad Minshew. So far we haven’t seen the bad… 

 

Let’s see what this team does in Jax. If we beat them at their place, then perhaps the expectations can be upped to winning the division. At this point in time I’d say we’re right about the same. Still early in the season… 

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5 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That’s what I am saying. If they don’t win and make playoffs it will be really disappointing. Even more disappointing then If Richardson had played.  I think we all would have been ok watching Richardson all year but we missed the playoffs.

 I guess I don’t feel that way because I think AR gives them the best chance to win games not Minshew.  I’m certainly happy Minshew is the backup.  

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5 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When the season started I think we all understood the number one thing was Richardson getting ready for 24. Now that it’s Minshew has your mind now shifted to wins are the number one priority. Because if we lose and don’t have Richardson we really haven’t accomplished anything.

I'll be going to the casino this Sunday. Will try to watch the game there if it's on. If it's not, that's fine too. I'm disinterested at this point as I have nothing to cheer for except the win. It's like Phillip Rivers 2020 all over again where we probably don't have a future with Minshew as the starting QB and just want to win.

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I found renewed interest when the colts drafted who I wanted and hoped they would,  AR5. 

 

I want to see AR5..... AR5 develop.... and contend in the division which I predicted they would. 

 

But now with his status for this season up in the air AND remember past disaster occurrences with injuries to franchise QBs (Bert Jones, Luck) has like I said in another thread has me a lot less enthused at this point. I mean I of course still think we can contend in this division but right now its not that much different than the last 8 or so years. A injured Luck, then QBs like Brissett, past his prime old man Rivers, Wentz, and a washed up Ryan and now a journeyman backup Minshew. 

 

If AR5 can come back healed toward the last third of season with no lingering concerns about his shoulder with this injury for the future than I think a lot of us will again be excited to possibly go into the playoffs and face off against QBs like Burrow, Maholmes, Allen, Herbert etc....  with our own stud and elite talented QB. 

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Double Edged sword here - I like GM10 and think he is good in spurts BUT when teams have had time to prepare for him he typically has not won games in the past - even with the REALLY GOOD Eagles last year.

 

So While I hope for a win I continue with the mindset of getting these younger players experience, play competitively each game and enjoy watching them compete. 

 

I will worry about winning in 2024 because I just want to enjoy the ride right now!

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I always want to win regardless. I think with AR, the main thing was wanting to see major progression. Still doesn’t mean winning doesn’t matter. I think so far, AR has progressed in just the 4 games he played in which is valuable + the injuries he has suffered probably has woke him up. 

 

We have a better roster than many didn't anticipate, so we should win quite a few games.  LOSING SUCKS!

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9 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That’s what I am saying. If they don’t win and make playoffs it will be really disappointing. Even more disappointing then If Richardson had played.  I think we all would of been ok watching Richardson all year but we missed the playoffs.

Not making the playoffs with your back up QB won't be surprising.   They were not in it to win it this year.

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9 minutes ago, Myles said:

Not making the playoffs with your back up QB won't be surprising.   They were not in it to win it this year.

Well, they weren't in it to win it at the beginning of the year with Richardson as an unknown rookie. After he was better than expected and we extended Jonathan Taylor, expectations went up. Unfortunately, with the injury to Richardson, now we probably won't make the playoffs. However, I believe the FO thought we had a shot to contend for a short time after seeing progress from Richardson and extending Taylor. 

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2 hours ago, shakedownstreet said:

 

Just a season ago our roster was widely regarded as about the worst in the league

 

Football media is quite fickle

We lost a lot of close games last season and our O.Line was injured for most of the season. Not to mention Taylor playing injured and missing games. Last season we lost 3 games by 1 point and 1 game in OT. This team could have easily been 8-8-1 with Matt Ryan even having a bad year for his standards.

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I started a thread back in the summer that asked - what if Minshew wins games for us?  Then do we ever turn to AR if we’re in the playoff hunt.

 

i was assuming GM would start the season.  Now we know he’s playing for a while. 
 

Same question applies.  What if GM got us solidly in the playoff hunt when AR is ready?

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7 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

I started a thread back in the summer that asked - what if Minshew wins games for us?  Then do we ever turn to AR if we’re in the playoff hunt.

 

i was assuming GM would start the season.  Now we know he’s playing for a while. 
 

Same question applies.  What if GM got us solidly in the playoff hunt when AR is ready?

 

Having two solid QBs isn't a problem.  Having no solid QB is a problem.

 

With that being said, what if Shane messes with the opposition's game plan and platoons both QBs if we make the playoffs.  Colts did it in the 2015 season finale when they rotated Freeman and Lindley.

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9 minutes ago, Myles said:

i think this season has evolved into playing the QB who gives you the best chance of winning today which is Minshew.

See I don’t believe that. I think we were going to win with AR too.  The only reason I started this thread was what if we don’t. Then it seems like a wasted season because not only did we not win but we didn’t get to see AR so seems like we didn’t accomplish anything.

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31 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

I started a thread back in the summer that asked - what if Minshew wins games for us?  Then do we ever turn to AR if we’re in the playoff hunt.

 

i was assuming GM would start the season.  Now we know he’s playing for a while. 
 

Same question applies.  What if GM got us solidly in the playoff hunt when AR is ready?

AR is the starter. When he is 100% he will play. Colts won’t rush it though. We have the luxury hopefully to take time.

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5 hours ago, Myles said:

Not making the playoffs with your back up QB won't be surprising.   They were not in it to win it this year.

We are better then what people thought we would be. We have a easy schedule. My point was not making with AR we still Would of watched him develop.  We still would of accomplished what we needed too. 

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16 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When the season started I think we all understood the number one thing was Richardson getting ready for 24. Now that it’s Minshew has your mind now shifted to wins are the number one priority. Because if we lose and don’t have Richardson we really haven’t accomplished anything.

 

 We have Grover, Buckner, Leonard, Q, Kelly, Smith and our slot corner Kenny as seasoned vets.

 Everyone else is young and with a lot to prove. Zaire has proven a lot.

 So one man down in AR is not a lost season At All!

 Believing it is sadly totally disrespectful to the coaching staff and to the hard work the players put in year round to get better.

 

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1 hour ago, MarylandTerrapin said:

 

Having two solid QBs isn't a problem.  Having no solid QB is a problem.

 

With that being said, what if Shane messes with the opposition's game plan and platoons both QBs if we make the playoffs.  Colts did it in the 2015 season finale when they rotated Freeman and Lindley.

Freeman and Lindley?

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16 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When the season started I think we all understood the number one thing was Richardson getting ready for 24. Now that it’s Minshew has your mind now shifted to wins are the number one priority. Because if we lose and don’t have Richardson we really haven’t accomplished anything.

I expected to win with Richardson  as well. The taylor situation destroyed  my expectations for season

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