Colts @ Jaguars Game Day Thread

[Trueman]

Two ways of looking at Reich's aggression , really:
 

1) The Jags offense sucks so he can get away with it

2) The Jags defense is playing lights out , and the Jags offense sucks , so why not just take points and not give them any momentum 

I lean towards # 2 , but I understand #1.

 

[SteelCityColt]

1 minute ago, needanoline63 said:

Ya know, cornerback and receiver are important positions we need to address next year. But we really need two interior DL bad. Hunt is to inconsistent, and easily gets stood up by opposing OL, that’s cause how tall he is. But ya I doubt al woods,hunt and ridgeway are back next year. Grover Stewart also

 

Thankfully this is a D-line deep draft. 

Just now, Trueman said:

Two ways of looking at Reich's aggression , really:
 

1) The Jags offense sucks so he can get away with it

2) The Jags defense is playing lights out , and the Jags offense sucks , so why not just take points and not give them any momentum 

I lean towards # 2 , but I understand #1.

 

 

Or welcome to the new NFL?

[mahagga73]

Interesting everybody is questioning the 4th down calls but most of you had no problem with him giving a win to the Texans. 

[Dingus McGirt]

Falcons up on Ravens now.

[AllYouNeedIsLuck]

They came to play, wow 

[Trueman]

1 minute ago, SteelCityColt said:

 

 

 

Or welcome to the new NFL?

Or stop saying that to me every week?

It's a 3-0 game.

[needanoline63]

I miss jihad ward! He was doing pretty good for us!

[SteelCityColt]

Just now, Trueman said:

Or stop saying that to me every week?

It's a 3-0 game.

 

Excuse me? 

[rockywoj]

13 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:

Just out of interest.. the Colts were 54.5% on 4th downs and going for it before this game. That's about middle of the league. 

 

Now work out the EV of TD vs FG...

And what are the stats when they are 4th and goal from the 2 or less?  I will bet that historically it is a LOT lower success rate than you are holding out there. Plus your analytics ignore game situation.  You cannot sell me on giving up those early game situation points.  And call me results oriented if you want, but results matter!  And a single game situation does NOT present enough offsetting opportunities for the law of averages to kick in. You disagree philosophically, but I am not sold on blind analytics carrying the day over situational wisdom. 

[NewEra]

He's going to get hurt with all that jumping around crap

[NFLfan]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Jags are smoking us 3-0, fire Reich now for being aggressive and bring back passive Pagano 

 

Lol. Stop trolling your fellow Colts fans. I too like the aggressive approach. But now they need to score points whichever way they can.

[CamMo]

Nice hurdle E.Ebron. First down TY

[ColtStrong2013]

Hoping for good adjustments at halftime, and a solid 2nd half performance. I feel like we should either be winning by 3 scores with the way defense is playing, or losing by 3 scores with the way the offense is performing. 

[needanoline63]

recievers can’t get any separation at all :/ come on guys

[CamMo]

Be aggressive when your team shows they can move the ball against their front 7, that’s all I’m saying.

 

 

no turnovers here plz

[SteelCityColt]

Just now, rockywoj said:

And what are the stats when they are 4th and goal from the 2 or less?  I will bet that historically it is a LOT lower success rate than you are holding out there. Plus your analytics ignore game situation.  You can or sell me on giving up those early game situation points.  And call me results oriented if you want, but results matter!  And a single game situation does NOT present enough offsetting opportunities for the law is averages to kick in. You disagree philosophically, but I am sold on blind analytics carrying the day over situational wisdom. 

 

Now see you have a point about the psychological factor. But I ain't pulling the numbers out of thin air. It's a matter of record? 

 

Previous to this game we were 100% on the only play that meets the criteria you set out above. 

[Trueman]

1 minute ago, SteelCityColt said:

 

Excuse me? 

You gave me a similar comment about how defense has become superfluous a couple weeks ago.

Excuse yourself. 

[Mr.Debonair]

Plus show Ryan Grant the door next Year 

[RollerColt]

At this point. Just take the knee and go to the locker room. 

 

Start over. Do something else next half. 

[Colts_Fan12]

What's Grant's problem with batting the ball into the damn air!!

[Mr.Debonair]

Holding the call too damn long 

[SteelCityColt]

To be clear too.. there's a difference between supporting the decision to go for it and saying they were good play calls. 

 

I've not liked the play calling so far this game, they're blitzing, they're aggressive. What happened to the dink, dunk and slice we were very good with. 

[Moosejawcolt]

The main deficiency  i see today is we lack speed at our skill positions on O. This Jags D is totally over whelming our O

[NewEra]

Difference between man and that crap zone...

[Boiler_Colt]

The Jags have now shut us out for 4 straight quarters.

[RollerColt]

I just don't understand... 

[Valpo2004]

Wow our offense can't put any points up.

[Mr.Debonair]

2 minutes ago, needanoline63 said:

recievers can’t get any separation at all :/ come on guys

Our receivers have to be schemed open otherwise they get no separation outside of Hilton. We really need a number 2 WR

[Dingus McGirt]

"Playoffs?...Playoffs?

[needanoline63]

Just now, Mr.Debonair said:

Our receivers have to be schemed open otherwise they get no separation outside of Hilton. We really need a number 2 WR

We need a 2 and 3, hopefully cain shows up next year

[Btown_Colt]

No points in the first half. 4 quarters without scoring on this defense. But nah, it was a good call to give up the points.

[tenbears1971]

Working on 4 quarters now with no points on this D. Only thing moving the chains were penalties. That's why you take three points.

 

They are dominating us up front.

[JColts72]

That 3 We took away looks big now if we lose by 3.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Btown_Colt said:

Nah, I’m good. 

 

People are are complying because the colts offense looks like crap and gave up three points. You act like a child and say the same lame old lines about fire Reich and bring back Pags. 

 

It it was a bad decision that could possibly cost the Colts the game and their season. Let’s wait and see how it plays out. 

I only made that comment twice (joking) because people are complaining about Reich's play calling, last year alot of people were complaining because Pagano would never go for it. We are only down 3-0 at Half, so like you said lets see how it plays out.

[NewEra]

I literally hate zone. Let them catch ball, get first down and come up and tackle....

[SteelCityColt]

2 minutes ago, Trueman said:

You gave me a similar comment about how defense has become superfluous a couple weeks ago.

Excuse yourself. 

 

Not at all... I never said that. I said it's a different game and will continue to evolve. Defense very much still has a place to play. But I don't think you'll be seeing the shut down D of yesteryear. This is a low scoring game because both teams can't execute on O. It's ugly. 

 

Are you disputing teams are playing much more aggressively on O this year? 

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, Mr.Debonair said:

Our receivers have to be schemed open otherwise they get no separation outside of Hilton. We really need a number 2 WR

We need to go back to what was working earlier this year. Why all of the sudden are we back to the Arians Air Coryell stuff again? 

[James]

Should have been 6-3 Colts.

 

Frank Reich needs to realize that's it's okay to take FGs in these sort or games vs great defenses.

[needanoline63]

Just now, Dingus McGirt said:

"Playoffs?...Playoffs?

Let’s face it, our Winning streak is impressive, we have a lot to look forward to next year. But the lack of capable recievers,Ryan Kelly being out,no pass rush and Doyle being out. Not this year sorry guys

[ColtStrong2013]

Why not take a shot down the sideline with Ebron in one on one coverage with a defender with his back to the ball? At the very worst, the defender makes a great play on the ball and it works like a punt. You might pick a PI call up. Ebron might make a big play.

 

Instead we dump it to a runningback and punt.