Johnathan Martin To The Colts? [Merge]

[MrNLM]

If this is a repost feel free to discard this mods.

 

Let it be known that I have no horse in this race but for conversation's sake... IF the Colts wanted to bring in Martin IF he is done with he Dolphins... could he be serviceable  as a Gaurd/backup Tackle?

 

We know Olinemen move all over the formation so why not consider this?

 

Aren't we in need of an upgrade at gaurd... RG specifically?

[Gavin]

If this is a repost feel free to discard this mods.

 

Let it be known that I have no horse in this race but for conversation's sake... IF the Colts wanted to bring in Martin IF he is done with he Dolphins... could he be serviceable  as a Gaurd/backup Tackle?

 

We know Olinemen move all over the formation so why not consider this?

 

Aren't we in need of an upgrade at gaurd... RG specifically?

he would be an upgrade as a backup Tackle pass blocking wise, run blocking I dont think so

[MTC]

No, I don't think he can.

[arkana04]

No but he's better than Nixon or whoever it is backuping up AC now 

[King Colt]

NFL network said yesterday 11-15-13 if Martin decides to play again with another team the Colts may be a candidate. I know zero about this guy but I don't want controversy, bad or good. Concentrate on playing football and that is all. Win, win, win and watch soap operas in the spring time.  

[TKnight24]

He's a tackle. If he wants to play C I'm cool with that though

Castonzo Thornton Martin Thomas Cherlius

I'll take that

[pgt_rob]

Is this kid any good, though?

[Kyle]

I dont see why he couldnt be a G or backup T for us.  I know the argument most have given on here is that he is a T and not a G and you cant just change positions.  well that isnt true.  when we played STL they were playing a T at RG for the first time.  there are other examples but I dont really want to take the time to look them up.   I am sure that a certain style T is a better fit to be moved to G than others but I don't really know if Martin is that type or not.  I am willing to try anything to fix our OLine and if Pagano/Pep think he could help, then I say bring him in.

[Warhawk]

If he's affordable as a backup tackle, or if he can make the switch the guard, sure.

[colts_100nascar17fan]

He is not very good which is y he got moved around on miami o-line,if it werent for injuries he would of never seen the field. All the nfl shows say he is not very good and not mentally capable in a nfl locker room environment.

[krunk]

We are not a team that likes controversy.  I doubt we would invite that here.

[Tark The Shark]

I'd take him for the Veteran minimum and switch him to RG.

 

He would be a instant upgrade to McGlynn.

 

Also his history with Pep provides a good opportunity for Martin, if he is still willing to play in the NFL.

[throwing BBZ]

He is not that bad of a T.

Young, and not ready for LT just yet, maybe never.

A big reason our run game was better against tenn. was they put Cherilus at L TE beside AC. Our only two guys who can run block at all. Great idea iMO. The defense shifted to handle it and it opened up the middle and a few runs to the right. Very nice. Link even had some nice blocks from the  RT position. Now That is success!

 

 Maybe Martin could fit in these roles. Doesn`t hurt to speculate.

 Importantly, Pep and friends would be good judges of his mental and physical skills and if the much needed love of the game is there.

 

Castonzo is a 1st rd draft pick, year ahead of him and has a ton of starts and is still not good enough of a pass blocker to be a LT.

On 3 step drops & shotguns he gives up some pressures & hits, 5 step lots of pressures, hits, run for your lifes, and some sacks,

 7 steps, constant pressures, you are going to run, get hit, sacked, strip sacked for a Td... you name it!

[MTC]

He's better suited at guard (very similar to Roger Saffold). 

[WastedColt]

T takes a very long time to learn. Martin is only a 2nd year player. I think he would apply himself here. He knows Pep, Luck and Fleener already.

[basketballsteve]

Yes, he will be super motivated, He will have instant locker room support, the Colts locker room is not the Dolphins,  there will be low competition for him meaning low price tag, and he will come as a project not a starter, also, ABBA sings "take a chance on me" as the background music in my head.

[jemack]

It is possible that after all is said and done with this Incognito investigation, that the NFL awards Martin with a free agent status. Only then would I be OK with the Colts signing him. But not if it's gonna cost them draft pick(s)

[dudeski]

He is a bad player

No thanks

[jbaron04]

We should put thomas at c , mmarin at guard an we set depends on his quick ness constanzo coukd slide in to g

[Bluefire4]

I guess if he can switch to guard maybe.. but the dude is not good.

[JLeòdhas]

Bad idea to bring him in, I think.

[oldunclemark]

We are not a team that likes controversy.  I doubt we would invite that here.

 

 

I don't think there would be any controversy here.,,,.He'd be among friends and out of the national spotlight

[oldunclemark]

It is possible that after all is said and done with this Incognito investigation, that the NFL awards Martin with a free agent status. Only then would I be OK with the Colts signing him. But not if it's gonna cost them draft pick(s)

 

I would trade a 6th or 7th for him......He started for them.....he has some quality obviously..

 

....If we're going to draft offensive line depth..then trading a low pick for former second rounder with experience is a strong move

[SOMDColtsfan]

No. Pagano says the Colts have the hearts of Lions. So No 

[The Fish]

I'd say it's a solid, maybe. 

 

 

Random question. Why is Costanzo viewed as a below par LT here? I see him get beat every once in a while, but not all that often. The pressure Luck deals with most of the time is right up the middle. The center and guard play are far more concerning than Costanzo's.

[SkyBane]

I'd say it's a solid, maybe.

Random question. Why is Costanzo viewed as a below par LT here? I see him get beat every once in a while, but not all that often. The pressure Luck deals with most of the time is right up the middle. The center and guard play are far more concerning than Costanzo's.

Because people have to defend their proclomations of bust from last season, forcing them to ignore the good to borderline very good play this year.

[GoColts8818]

I'd say it's a solid, maybe.

Random question. Why is Costanzo viewed as a below par LT here? I see him get beat every once in a while, but not all that often. The pressure Luck deals with most of the time is right up the middle. The center and guard play are far more concerning than Costanzo's.

because some people are more interested in being right here than what is really happening on the field.

[JoKeR]

Once he moves on to another team the controversy should be over. Plus it doesn't surround him really, it's about the Dolphins and Incognito. The story wouldn't go any farther than the headline " Martin signs with Colts and rejoins Stanford teammates "

[dudeski]

Because people have to defend their proclomations of bust from last season, forcing them to ignore the good to borderline very good play this year.

bingo

[JoKeR]

because some people are more interested in being right here than what is really happening on the field.

I don't understand the importance of it either. Like hey look at me, told you this guy sucks! Ok, here's a cookie. It's much worse when they stick to their guns when they are obviously wrong. Of course this happens in every subject of life.

[BOTT]

I'd say it's a solid, maybe. 

 

 

Random question. Why is Costanzo viewed as a below par LT here? I see him get beat every once in a while, but not all that often. The pressure Luck deals with most of the time is right up the middle. The center and guard play are far more concerning than Costanzo's.

Because people like to repeat things while having no clue. I think that talk has actually died down with his play this year.

[NewColtsFan]

First......

 

Jonathan Martin is not even close to being a bad player....    he's just not as good as the Dolphins had hoped.   He's an OK player.  He would not start for the Colts.   Not as long as we have Castanzo and Cherilus.

 

But he'd be a great back-up tackle for both sides.    Again,  not a starter, but a high quality back-up.

 

And I think he'd flourish in the culture of the Colt's locker-room.    Totally different than Miami's.

 

I hope the Dolphins release him, and the Colts sign him as a FA.    He wouldn't cost much in $$,  and we wouldn't have to trade a pick to get him.

 

Win-win for the Colts and Martin!      I hope it happens!

[schwamm]

Because people have to defend their proclomations of bust from last season, forcing them to ignore the good to borderline very good play this year.

Maybe.

It could also be that they read someone else say that he isn't good, aren't knowledgable enough to know otherwise, saw a missed block that they are kinda sure might be his fault, and want to sound smart.

Or it could be that some fans somehow think "good" = perfect. Any mistakes are grounds to call someone terrible. Almost as if the opposition isn't even there. Castonzo missing a block couldn't possibly have anything to do with a great play by the opposition. Nope. He is terrible.

[Buck Showalter]

I guess Martin is laying low in Lafayette...

[GoColts8818]

I don't understand the importance of it either. Like hey look at me, told you this guy sucks! Ok, here's a cookie. It's much worse when they stick to their guns when they are obviously wrong. Of course this happens in every subject of life.

I don't either, I just think people do it to feel better about themselves.  Personally I would be gladly be wrong 100% of the time if it meant good things for the Colts. 

[azcolt]

Does Miami need a great young running back to take in trade? We have one that might be available.

[Freenyfan102]

i want ignito then martin

[IUfan_Charlie]

I don't want the drama involved with him on this team, we don't need it. I think that his whole story is a scam. 

[esmort]

We are trying to build on offensive line with a nasty streak that can impose its will on the DL ... I don't see how adding a soft cupcake to the mix will help us achieve that.

[NewEra]

I'd take Incognito over him. But that's me...