NewColtsFan Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 .... and, no, I'm not kidding, nor am I on drugs or under the influence of alcohol.I'm serious.The Jacksonville Jaguars, a candidate for the first pick overall in next year's draft, are a dangerous team for us to play this week for many reasons... here are some...-- They're 0-2. And forgive the cliche, but they're a wounded animal backed into a corner. They do not want to start 0-3 including a loss to the Colts, who they likely see as a good chance for a win.-- MJD is back, Gabbert, though he came up lame yesterday, reportedly is much improved today, and his overall performance is better than last year. And Blackmon could cause match-up problems. And speaking of match-up problems, I give you TE Marcedes Lewis.-- We're coming off a win. It could be very, very easy for a young team like the Colts to come to practice today feeling good about themselves and realizing we're playing a poor team this week and take them lightly. A young team is very likely to do this. Pagano and his staff have to get their attention today, or certainly by Wednesday when practice really starts. We do not want to take them lightly.-- Coaches like to say 'you are what you are on film'... and on film, the Colts still have plenty of issues. The Jags will see them and see if they can't exploit them. We will not be heavy favorites this week. Favored, yes. Heavily favored, I don't think so.-- Our OL is atrocious. I'm holding out hope it will improve (somewhat) during the course of this year, but no team can survive 16 games with a line this bad. Luck can only overcome so much.-- Because our OL is so poor, so is our running game. It's hard enough to win in the NFL in perfect conditions, but when you're reduced to being one dimensional, it's a recipe for a loss.-- And because our OL is so poor, Andrew is always running for his life. And you know this topic drives me crazy! This is enough to get the conversation started.... but the bottom line is this.... a win this week is far, Far, FAR from a sure thing. Don't take the Jags for granted. Not as a fan. And hopefully, not by our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Oh, buddy, us Colts fans know good and well how dangerous the Jags are and can be. Of the divisional rivals, I'd say they've hurt us more than anyone else has. Nobody thinks you're on drugs for not taking them lightly.But this game is very, very winnable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 your talking about the Gabbert that threw for -4 yards in the first half yesterday. yea I call that improved for himbut division games are always the nail biters that are not expected nail biters for every team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 The Jags have given us fits a lot and mostly IMO due to the human bowling bowl they have at RB. I feel more comfortable at the moment with the run D then I have in recent years though.I know they are 0-2 but at the same time they did sweep us last year and I feel this has to stop......we gotta get a win over them.I would prefer to go into the bye week 2-1 and this would bring an immense amount of confidence to this squad considering the schedule gets A LOT more difficult starting with Green Bay.Oh, and I doubt any Colts fan is going to overlook ANY team lol. Or the Colts themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Americolt Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I think you tried a wee bit hard to make them sound a little formidable. But the game is a VERY winnable game for us. The only one i'm worried about is MJD. He has always seemed to gash us. A receiver is only as good as his QB allows him to be (Fitz is the lone exception), so I'm not too worried about Blackmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 We were 2-14 last year every team we play this year is very dangerous lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 and their offensive line is more decimated than ours and thats saying alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbear Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 We were 2-14 last year every team we play this year is very dangerous lolAbsolutely. Anyone who doesn't think that every game we play is loseable should take off the rose colored glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 We were 2-14 last year every team we play this year is very dangerous lolAbsolutely. But every team in the NFL can say that about their opponent, right. NE probably said that about Arizona and people probably laughed.Yes, the Jags have always played tight us to the end, no matter how good we were or bad they were. This game will be no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHorseColts Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I expect this game to be a gut-grinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 and their offensive line is more decimated than ours and thats saying alotThat would be a huge bonus for the defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Jags are always dangerous for us. Just like the sun rises in the east and sets in the west every day. Just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Luckily Daryl Smith is out. He's one of the most underrated OLBers in the league. Mathis should have a field day against Guy Whimper. NCF, about Marcedes Lewis... He doesn't worry me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyblue Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Oh man I'm shakin in my boots about the Jags LOL I think there a horrible team, sure ain't no Green Bay Packers! They only got one good player thats Drew, and if the Colts can stop Peterson they can stop Drew! I think Ponder is alot better than Gabbert so not worried about him at all!!! Colts blow them out of the water 38 to 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwiz Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 We were 2-14 last year every team we play this year is very dangerous lol :clap: Out of likes again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The Colts can be 15-0 and the Jags could be 0-15, but somehow the Colts-Jags game will go down to the wire.Every time the Colts-Jags play, it's an exciting game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betheafan41 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 aslong as we have replacement refs, every team is dangerous to every team. heck philly beat baltimore on the road and arizona beat new england on the road. so id say every team is dangerous to every team.BUT really all jax has is MJD. Gabbert had a decent game against minnesota. but so did luck. the jags have a RB who was able to establish the passing game for jax, the colts really dont have that luxury and still beat minnesota. im not taking anything away from jax because division games are always the toughest games to win, but the colts will pull this off. 24-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 We were 2-14 last year every team we play this year is very dangerous lolbeat me to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Good.... I'm glad to see my friends here recognize this game is not going to be a cake-walk.Yes, it's a winnable game. I've had it pegged as a win since the day the schedule came out. It's at home and we should be favored and we should win.But this is a potential let-down game for a young team thrilled to get their first win and playing a lesser opponent. We just can not overlook the Jags.Pagano and his staff really have their jobs cut out for them this week. They really need to make sure the team is seriously focused on this game. We're just not good enough to beat a lesser team with less than our "A" game. Anything less and we're all going to be disappointed Sunday night.And none of us wants that to happen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peytonator Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Don't forget about their Angry Punter.......they've definitely been getting their draft pick usage out of the guy (52 YPP).They might not win the game, but they could very easily win the field position battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peytonator Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 But yeah, you can never take a division game (or any game for that matter) lightly. Jags always give us a hard time, heck they swept us last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWF Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Divisional games are always tough so gotta agree it wont be easy but I think the Colts win this one. I think we'll be get to Gabbert enough to bring out the chuck and duck in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungarianColtsFan Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I have only few thoughts:1.As far as I know Gabbert is out with hamstring injury (it was yesterday on nfl.com, was there any update)2. You all made valid points, every team is dangerous for us, this is a new team filled with rookies, young players and a handful of vets,3. Some of our key-players are hurt. (Satele, Freeney, Angerer, Reitz, Justice...etc.)4. I see some prospect since last week. We were playing better this Sunday, Luck had a little better protect (though he still had to run a lot).5. We will play at LOS. Based on preseason and 2 weeks of regular season, we have good chance to win at home, however 6 games represent a small sample...So I wouldn't like to look into a crystal ball (or Orthanc), or ring doomsday's bell. Jax was always a hard target for us, but I think the coaching staff and Luck can manage this one too. One is for sure: there will be no place for ultraconservative play this game. If we can hold back MJD we will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 In a lot of ways we are playing a worse version of the team we just played this past week. With that said I've seen enough good Colts teams lose to bad Jags teams to know not to over look them.I think the samething can get the Colts in trouble that could have against the Vikings. Our O-line has to be able to hold up to their pass rush which isn't nearly as dangerous as the Vikings pass rush but our o-line is so poor that might not matter much. Then on defense we have to stop MJD which isn't something I am sure the Colts have ever done. The good news is that I think that Redding and Moala being back at his real poistion of 3/4 end have improved our run defense. I don't think they are great but they aren't a joke like they used to be. With that said, still the best to take MJD out of the game is to do what the Colts did on Sunday get out to a lead and make the Jags play from behind and take the run out of the game that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tark The Shark Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I feel good that our defense can hold off a rusty MJD. Not saying this game will be easy but I think that we can limit them to short passes and Luck can pull off some magic, we can certainly win the game.I just hope he doesn't get injured, because that Oline is just plain bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Like coach Pagano said "The enemy is within us". As long as we play Colts Football for 60 minutes we will be fine. I don't have any uneasy feelings about this game in my stomach. The offensive line will begin shaping up starting with this game, I believe we should be getting Justice back this week which will help. If we can keep Essex in at guard, and either Mcglynn or Reitz at the other guard I expect we should see some improvement. I'm concerned about MJD, but not as much as I have been in the past colts seasons because I think the run defense is getting more stout and the defense overall is better than it used to be at this point already. I think strategically we are going to play the same defensive game we played against MinnesotaI expect nothing but a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztboiler Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I just hope he doesn't get injured, because that Oline is just plain badThis is more in response to O line topics overall....your's is just the last one I happened to read. Yes, we all wish that the O line was better and yes, we all wish we had the line we hope to have in 3 years today. However, Luck was sacked twice and hurried 5 times if I remember correctly. This with a line playing only 2 of its original starters coming out of camp, and 1 out of position, against what is universally accepted as an excellent D line sporting Jared Allen and his 22 sacks last year. As always, the specifics can be much different than the generalities. We are not the only team getting our QB hit, and we won't be the only team getting our QB hit 3 years from now. P Manning was sacked multiple times last night behind what is "generally" accepted as one of the very best O lines in football. Because our line is "generally" bad, we overreact to every specific failing, even when the accumulated specifics for a given game indicate that the line played a "generally" serviceable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steagles Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 It's going to be close again, Im going to say 24-20, with Jones-Drew having a good day, 75-100 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyes Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Absolutely. Anyone who doesn't think that every game we play is loseable should take off the rose colored glasses.Just as every game is winnable ... "any given Sunday" and thats the way its been for as long as I can remember watching the NFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The only thing I fear about the Jaguars is Josh Scobee. He is a man possessed against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 They did sweep us last year. I'm happy that when healthy, our run defense looks improved so if we can stop MJD think this game bodes well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 this game has problems written all over it for us. hate to say, didn't want to say, until i saw this post. unfortunatley you can come back to this very post to see that i was right after the Jax game is adacemic. i hate it , i hate it , i hate it.. ... but it's the reality of the NFL. It just aint easy to win a game. I regret EJ coming to ring and us not getting the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tark The Shark Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 This is more in response to O line topics overall....your's is just the last one I happened to read. Yes, we all wish that the O line was better and yes, we all wish we had the line we hope to have in 3 years today. However, Luck was sacked twice and hurried 5 times if I remember correctly. This with a line playing only 2 of its original starters coming out of camp, and 1 out of position, against what is universally accepted as an excellent D line sporting Jared Allen and his 22 sacks last year. As always, the specifics can be much different than the generalities. We are not the only team getting our QB hit, and we won't be the only team getting our QB hit 3 years from now. P Manning was sacked multiple times last night behind what is "generally" accepted as one of the very best O lines in football. Because our line is "generally" bad, we overreact to every specific failing, even when the accumulated specifics for a given game indicate that the line played a "generally" serviceable game.I am more worried about our line because our QB is young, and usually young QBs who aren't protected well early in their career, don't have great careers. I have a good feeling that our line will get better with time and experience but right now, it doesn't look good if Luck has to lay his body on the line every single play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztboiler Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I am more worried about our line because our QB is young, and usually young QBs who aren't protected well early in their career, don't have great careers. I have a good feeling that our line will get better with time and experience but right now, it doesn't look good if Luck has to lay his body on the line every single playBecause young QB's are usually on bad teams, being well protected is the exception for them, not the rule. Mostly its part of their training - good ones figure it out and tend to get better with their line. They make each other better, in part, over time. There is no line good enough to protect a young QB who holds the ball too long, and most young QB's would like to hold the ball longer than available because they are not certain of what they are seeing. Thus, David Carr was as much the problem as his poor line was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabidfan77 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Oh man I'm shakin in my boots about the Jags LOL I think there a horrible team, sure ain't no Green Bay Packers! They only got one good player thats Drew, and if the Colts can stop Peterson they can stop Drew! I think Ponder is alot better than Gabbert so not worried about him at all!!! Colts blow them out of the water 38 to 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Colts didn't stop Peterson the Vikes rotated him alot, their ground attack was successful just not enough for the win thankfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 If we contain the run as much as possible and force the jags to take to the air as we did with the Vikes, then we can win this game. Also there line is pretty bad, i would go as far to say the patchwork of a line we have is better than there's if that accounts for anything lol. So i expect our pass rushers to put heat on Gabbert something we failed to do to Ponder the whole second half of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I am more worried about our line because our QB is young, and usually young QBs who aren't protected well early in their career, don't have great careers. I have a good feeling that our line will get better with time and experience but right now, it doesn't look good if Luck has to lay his body on the line every single playbut he's not putting his body on the line every play....that's just overreaction. aaron rodgers was sacked and hit more against the bears than luck was. plus luck isn't really taking hard shots. granted, u never want to get sacked by a 300lb lineman, but i worry far more about the kind of shot he took from london fletcher in preseason. if he can stay away from those he will be fine imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 .... and, no, I'm not kidding, nor am I on drugs or under the influence of alcohol.I'm serious.The Jacksonville Jaguars, a candidate for the first pick overall in next year's draft, are a dangerous team for us to play this week for many reasons... here are some...-- They're 0-2. And forgive the cliche, but they're a wounded animal backed into a corner. They do not want to start 0-3 including a loss to the Colts, who they likely see as a good chance for a win.-- MJD is back, Gabbert, though he came up lame yesterday, reportedly is much improved today, and his overall performance is better than last year. And Blackmon could cause match-up problems. And speaking of match-up problems, I give you TE Marcedes Lewis.-- We're coming off a win. It could be very, very easy for a young team like the Colts to come to practice today feeling good about themselves and realizing we're playing a poor team this week and take them lightly. A young team is very likely to do this. Pagano and his staff have to get their attention today, or certainly by Wednesday when practice really starts. We do not want to take them lightly.-- Coaches like to say 'you are what you are on film'... and on film, the Colts still have plenty of issues. The Jags will see them and see if they can't exploit them. We will not be heavy favorites this week. Favored, yes. Heavily favored, I don't think so.-- Our OL is atrocious. I'm holding out hope it will improve (somewhat) during the course of this year, but no team can survive 16 games with a line this bad. Luck can only overcome so much.-- Because our OL is so poor, so is our running game. It's hard enough to win in the NFL in perfect conditions, but when you're reduced to being one dimensional, it's a recipe for a loss.-- And because our OL is so poor, Andrew is always running for his life. And you know this topicdrives me crazy!This is enough to get the conversation started.... but the bottom line is this.... a win this week is far, Far, FAR from a sure thing. Don't take the Jags for granted. Not as a fan. And hopefully, not by our players.we play them twice an year and its always a batle with MJD...we were 2-14 last year and qwe won by 3 last week...nobody's taking anybody lightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I have only few thoughts:1.As far as I know Gabbert is out with hamstring injury (it was yesterday on nfl.com, was there any update)2. You all made valid points, every team is dangerous for us, this is a new team filled with rookies, young players and a handful of vets,3. Some of our key-players are hurt. (Satele, Freeney, Angerer, Reitz, Justice...etc.)4. I see some prospect since last week. We were playing better this Sunday, Luck had a little better protect (though he still had to run a lot).5. We will play at LOS. Based on preseason and 2 weeks of regular season, we have good chance to win at home, however 6 games represent a small sample...So I wouldn't like to look into a crystal ball (or Orthanc), or ring doomsday's bell. Jax was always a hard target for us, but I think the coaching staff and Luck can manage this one too. One is for sure: there will be no place for ultraconservative play this game. If we can hold back MJD we will be just fine.Heard Monday night on ESPN that Gabbert wiil play.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Keep Josh Scobee away from a game winning FG, please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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