2023: Week#7 Browns at Colts, October 22, 2023, 1:00PM

[Zoltan]

2 minutes ago, a06cc said:

Can’t put to much blame on a rookie OLine man. That’s on the coach for putting us in that situation 

You really can’t blame coaching he gave him help with the TE who did a good chip block to give freeland time to set and the play was going to the other side of the field. You really can’t help a lineman any more. 

[GwinnettColt]

Inquiring minds want to know:

Will Indy's O-line be able to block Myles Garrett?
Will Indy get any solid FA's or draft any great O-linemen during the offseason?

 

[Solid84]

Just now, stitches said:

I have no idea what you guys are talking about... this is NOT a Steichen issue. Steichen has called a great game so far. We have scored 21 points with a FG blocked and 2 strip sacks that lead to TDs for the Browns. This is NOT a Shane Steichen problem. This is execution and talent issue. 

Completely agree. Execution and talent. 

[stitches]

2 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

Y’all are ridiculous, the offense has scored 21 points in one half on one of the top defenses in the league with our backup QB. That’s great playcalling 

THANK YOU! I can't believe what I'm reading here. 

[Smoke317]

Shane gonna have to go to the tight ends or call more max protect and scheme up a couple intermediate shots. 

[chickenMan]

Just now, GwinnettColt said:

Inquiring minds want to know:

Will Indy's O-line be able to block Myles Garrett?
Will Indy get any solid FA's or draft any great O-linemen during the offseason?

 

1. No.

2. Maybe?

[Dark_Indy]

1 minute ago, w87r said:

I'm not even sure Freeland got a hand on him, tbh..?

 

Ogletree only got 1 hand on him though on his "chip".

 

Freeland put one hand on Garrett. Ogletree at least hit Garrett.

 

[krunk]

We have to get back to running the football, play action/rpo game.  Stay away from passing too much and

I think we can stop with the turnovers. 

[compuls1v3]

I feel like we are the only team in the league that doesnt run the ball when we are backed up near the endzone.  I don't understand why that is.

[runthepost]

3 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

Y’all are ridiculous, the offense has scored 21 points in one half on one of the top defenses in the league with our backup QB. That’s great playcalling 

The same offense has gifted that top defense 17 points also

[IndyEric07]

Just now, a06cc said:

We don’t win 6 games this season Ballard has to go. I’m done with this 

Speaking of Ballard picks, when’s the last time Quitty Paye got any sort of pressure on a qb? Yet another Ballard 1st round bust!

[OLD FAN MAN]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

I have no idea what you guys are talking about... this is NOT a Steichen issue. Steichen has called a great game so far. We have scored 21 points against the best defense in the league with a FG blocked and 2 strip sacks that lead to TDs for the Browns. This is NOT a Shane Steichen problem. This is execution and talent issue. 

poor o-line talent and poor blocking tight ends  

[chad72]

3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Play calling has been great. 2 calls in the wrong spot had killed them.

60 yard FG call plus pass call in the end zone cost us 10 points, but the rest were excellent. But Steichen has to own up to those bad calls.

 

Its clear now Minshew has to be rolling on the move for effective passing game.

 

Plus it’s not a slouch of a D we’re playing, they will force mistakes 

[csmopar]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

I have no idea what you guys are talking about... this is NOT a Steichen issue. Steichen has called a great game so far. We have scored 21 points against the best defense in the league with a FG blocked and 2 strip sacks that lead to TDs for the Browns. This is NOT a Shane Steichen problem. This is execution and talent issue. 

Coming into this game, the browns had allowed 77 points TOTAL across 5 games. And have allowed the fewest 1st down conversions in the league. Yet we’ve now scored 21 in a half on them, and almost tied their season allowed 1st downs.

 

our OL has got to be better and we win this thing. 

[Moosejawcolt]

3 minutes ago, Dark_Indy said:

The offensive line has just given up. Freeland just lazy punching Garrett cost us 7. That's not on Minshew, or the playcalling. You have to get on Garrett and give Minshew a chance. 

How bout not having Minshew in shotgun around the goal ine and run the ball? Knowing u have a rookie tackle on an elite pass rusher should affect your play calling. 

[richard pallo]

Don’t hold your breath for any 2nd half adjustments there won’t be any.  

[Hark]

Look, Myles Garret is doing Myles Garrett things. We just have t find a way to limit his impact.

[csmopar]

1 minute ago, IndyEric07 said:

Speaking of Ballard picks, when’s the last time Quitty Paye got any sort of pressure on a qb? Yet another Ballard 1st round bust!

He’s got 3 QB hits this game. Including the one that took Watson out.

[Nesjan3]

Steichen has called a good game. I think he is a good coach. Dial back the aggressiveness a bit.

 

This team seriously lacks talent and playmakers at the most premium positions. Our highest paid players are a LB who is not even our best LB, a G who routinely looks average. And a RB lol.

 

We consistently make mental mistakes and shoot ourselves in the foot. Its an overall culture thing IMO. A "stench" has overcome this team going back to the Wentz season we choked away and its Ballard im telling you. He neeeeds to go before we can truly reset this team.

[BlackTiger]

Just now, IndyEric07 said:

Speaking of Ballard picks, when’s the last time Quitty Paye got any sort of pressure on a qb?

today?  he was having a good year and then missed a few games and just came back

[Solid84]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

60 yard FG call plus pass call in the end zone cost us 10 points, but the rest were excellent. But Steichen has to own up to those bad calls.

 

Its clear now Minshew has to be rolling on the move for effective passing game.

 

Plus it’s not a slouch of a D we’re playing, they will force mistakes 

It’s no slouch of a D, but Steichen is wrong to go for the points, when Gay has the leg for it?

[stitches]

Just now, runthepost said:

The same offense has gifted that top defense 17 points also

Yes it has. But it's not because of Steichen's playcalling. It's because of talent discrepancy between their DL and our OL and our QB has the awareness of a capybara. 

[#12.]

The Dungy teams were predictable and robotic, but you rarely saw the type of highly questionable decision making you've seen today from Steichen or that you saw from, Frank and Chuck.  If you just make some Dungy-type boring decisions in this game, you win by 10.

[krunk]

Just now, Hark said:

Look, Myles Garret is doing Myles Garrett things. We just have t find a way to limit his impact.

Emphasize the running game and play action so he can't tee off.

[John Waylon]

It’s been a real feast of famine first half. I’m not loving some of the decision making. 
 

This is what I mean when I say Minshew can get us through in a pinch, but he can’t carry the offense. 

[Zoltan]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

60 yard FG call plus pass call in the end zone cost us 10 points, but the rest were excellent. But Steichen has to own up to those bad calls.

 

Its clear now Minshew has to be rolling on the move for effective passing game.

 

Plus it’s not a slouch of a D we’re playing, they will force mistakes 

I wouldn’t even call the FG a bad call if you believe the kicker can make it.

[chad72]

Just now, Solid84 said:

It’s no slouch of a D, but Steichen is wrong to go for the points, when Gay has the leg for it?

Yes, 50-55, yes but not 60 yarders that even Justin Tucker has known to miss.

[richard pallo]

Steichen is costing us another game with his decision making.  No doubt about it.

[colts89]

3 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

You really can’t blame coaching he gave him help with the TE who did a good chip block to give freeland time to set and the play was going to the other side of the field. You really can’t help a lineman any more. 

You can blame coaching for allowing a rookie RT and a mediocre blocking TE to go against a red hot Garrett at your own end zone and with a lead. Just run the ball and get it out of that scenario.

[OLD FAN MAN]

1 minute ago, Hark said:

Look, Myles Garret is doing Myles Garrett things. We just have t find a way to limit his impact.

that is the coaches job

[Solid84]

This is about Oline crapping themselves with crucial penalties and Minshew not taking care of the ball. 

[Zoltan]

One thing not talked about Downs had an amazing first half making huge plays and getting open. 

[Dingus McGirt]

2 minutes ago, #12. said:

The Dungy teams were predictable and robotic, but you rarely saw the type of highly questionable decision making you've seen today from Steichen or that you saw from, Frank and Chuck.  If you just make some Dungy-type boring decisions in this game, you win by 10.

Was Dungy the play caller?

[IinD]

Just now, Solid84 said:

This is about Oline crapping themselves with crucial penalties and Minshew not taking care of the ball. 

 that's why I can't fully rip the coach like some are.  Talent always prevails.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

Could be 28-0 like Lions vs Ravens. 
 

I just want to never see this version of Minshew ever again. Get back to the roll outs, get Minshew on the move. A rushed Minshew is a lost Minshew and a turn over machine. 6 turnovers in 2 games. 

[adubb84]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yes it has. But it's not because of Steichen's playcalling. It's because of talent discrepancy between their DL and our OL and our QB has the awareness of a capybara.

LOL. I MUST KNOW. What is a capybara? 

[John Waylon]

Just now, Zoltan said:

One thing not talked about Downs had an amazing first half making huge plays and getting open. 

Love what I’m seeing. Need more. That’ll help open the run game a little more. Which will lead to play action. 

[BlackTiger]

That was a weird half that dragged on a long time.  It felt like we are asking GM to do too much but he only had 13 attempts

 

[SR711]

That was a horrible end to that 1st half.  Few issues that hurt

 

- O line decided to pick the worst time to whiff pass blocks.  Disappointing that a player like Nelson who is paid to be elite had an egregious poor play in there as well

 

- Steichen continues to have an oddly aggressive mindset when he clearly does not have a QB or an overall offensive unit that justifies that type of thinking.  You gotta stick with close to a 2:1 run pass ratio for this unit to be effective and avoid the costly TOs

 

- Not knowing when to “fold em” with play calling…if Shane runs the ball on that last 3rd down, chances are Cleveland does not tack on the FG at end of half.  Same issue that led to 60 yard FG block earlier in the game.

 

In the end, I hope this doesn’t cost them the game but the reality is that we went from a situation where we should have (at worst) been up 4 going into the half to down 6. 

[Zoltan]

2 minutes ago, colts89 said:

You can blame coaching for allowing a rookie RT and a mediocre blocking TE to go against a red hot Garrett at your own end zone and with a lead. Just run the ball and get it out of that scenario.

I think you just want to blame coaching