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2023: Week#7 Browns at Colts, October 22, 2023, 1:00PM


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  1. 1. The Colts will score how many points in this game?

    • 10 or fewer
    • 11 to 20
    • 21 to 30
    • Over 30 points
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  2. 2. The Colts will allow how many points to the Browns in this game?

    • 10 or fewer
    • 11 to 20
    • 21 to 30
    • More than 30 points
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  3. 3. Who wins?

    • Browns
    • Colts
    • Game ends in a tie
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  4. 4. Bonus Question: For this game only, if you had to choose one style of offense, what would you prefer? (I purposely did not give a choice of "mix of pass and run".)

    • Run-heavy offense
    • Pass heavy offense

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2 minutes ago, a06cc said:

Can’t put to much blame on a rookie OLine man. That’s on the coach for putting us in that situation 

You really can’t blame coaching he gave him help with the TE who did a good chip block to give freeland time to set and the play was going to the other side of the field. You really can’t help a lineman any more. 

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Just now, stitches said:

I have no idea what you guys are talking about... this is NOT a Steichen issue. Steichen has called a great game so far. We have scored 21 points with a FG blocked and 2 strip sacks that lead to TDs for the Browns. This is NOT a Shane Steichen problem. This is execution and talent issue. 

Completely agree. Execution and talent. 

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1 minute ago, stitches said:

I have no idea what you guys are talking about... this is NOT a Steichen issue. Steichen has called a great game so far. We have scored 21 points against the best defense in the league with a FG blocked and 2 strip sacks that lead to TDs for the Browns. This is NOT a Shane Steichen problem. This is execution and talent issue. 

poor o-line talent and poor blocking tight ends  

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3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Play calling has been great. 2 calls in the wrong spot had killed them.


60 yard FG call plus pass call in the end zone cost us 10 points, but the rest were excellent. But Steichen has to own up to those bad calls.

 

Its clear now Minshew has to be rolling on the move for effective passing game.

 

Plus it’s not a slouch of a D we’re playing, they will force mistakes 

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1 minute ago, stitches said:

I have no idea what you guys are talking about... this is NOT a Steichen issue. Steichen has called a great game so far. We have scored 21 points against the best defense in the league with a FG blocked and 2 strip sacks that lead to TDs for the Browns. This is NOT a Shane Steichen problem. This is execution and talent issue. 

Coming into this game, the browns had allowed 77 points TOTAL across 5 games. And have allowed the fewest 1st down conversions in the league. Yet we’ve now scored 21 in a half on them, and almost tied their season allowed 1st downs.

 

our OL has got to be better and we win this thing. 

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3 minutes ago, Dark_Indy said:

The offensive line has just given up. Freeland just lazy punching Garrett cost us 7. That's not on Minshew, or the playcalling. You have to get on Garrett and give Minshew a chance. 

How bout not having Minshew in shotgun around the goal ine and run the ball? Knowing u have a rookie tackle on an elite pass rusher should affect your play calling. 

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Steichen has called a good game. I think he is a good coach. Dial back the aggressiveness a bit.

 

This team seriously lacks talent and playmakers at the most premium positions. Our highest paid players are a LB who is not even our best LB, a G who routinely looks average. And a RB lol.

 

We consistently make mental mistakes and shoot ourselves in the foot. Its an overall culture thing IMO. A "stench" has overcome this team going back to the Wentz season we choked away and its Ballard im telling you. He neeeeds to go before we can truly reset this team.

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1 minute ago, chad72 said:


60 yard FG call plus pass call in the end zone cost us 10 points, but the rest were excellent. But Steichen has to own up to those bad calls.

 

Its clear now Minshew has to be rolling on the move for effective passing game.

 

Plus it’s not a slouch of a D we’re playing, they will force mistakes 

It’s no slouch of a D, but Steichen is wrong to go for the points, when Gay has the leg for it?

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Just now, runthepost said:

The same offense has gifted that top defense 17 points also

Yes it has. But it's not because of Steichen's playcalling. It's because of talent discrepancy between their DL and our OL and our QB has the awareness of a capybara. 

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The Dungy teams were predictable and robotic, but you rarely saw the type of highly questionable decision making you've seen today from Steichen or that you saw from, Frank and Chuck.  If you just make some Dungy-type boring decisions in this game, you win by 10.

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1 minute ago, chad72 said:


60 yard FG call plus pass call in the end zone cost us 10 points, but the rest were excellent. But Steichen has to own up to those bad calls.

 

Its clear now Minshew has to be rolling on the move for effective passing game.

 

Plus it’s not a slouch of a D we’re playing, they will force mistakes 

I wouldn’t even call the FG a bad call if you believe the kicker can make it.

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3 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

You really can’t blame coaching he gave him help with the TE who did a good chip block to give freeland time to set and the play was going to the other side of the field. You really can’t help a lineman any more. 

You can blame coaching for allowing a rookie RT and a mediocre blocking TE to go against a red hot Garrett at your own end zone and with a lead. Just run the ball and get it out of that scenario.

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2 minutes ago, #12. said:

The Dungy teams were predictable and robotic, but you rarely saw the type of highly questionable decision making you've seen today from Steichen or that you saw from, Frank and Chuck.  If you just make some Dungy-type boring decisions in this game, you win by 10.

Was Dungy the play caller?

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That was a horrible end to that 1st half.  Few issues that hurt

 

- O line decided to pick the worst time to whiff pass blocks.  Disappointing that a player like Nelson who is paid to be elite had an egregious poor play in there as well

 

- Steichen continues to have an oddly aggressive mindset when he clearly does not have a QB or an overall offensive unit that justifies that type of thinking.  You gotta stick with close to a 2:1 run pass ratio for this unit to be effective and avoid the costly TOs

 

- Not knowing when to “fold em” with play calling…if Shane runs the ball on that last 3rd down, chances are Cleveland does not tack on the FG at end of half.  Same issue that led to 60 yard FG block earlier in the game.

 

In the end, I hope this doesn’t cost them the game but the reality is that we went from a situation where we should have (at worst) been up 4 going into the half to down 6. 

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2 minutes ago, colts89 said:

You can blame coaching for allowing a rookie RT and a mediocre blocking TE to go against a red hot Garrett at your own end zone and with a lead. Just run the ball and get it out of that scenario.

I think you just want to blame coaching 

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