Holder on Lewis

[Fluke_33]

I was listening to Stephen holder on the stampede blue podcast.  He said the colts have been raving about tyquan Lewis to the extent that they are saying he will have a similar impact as Nelson and Leonard.   That sounds outlandish to me.  Those two were rookies of the month.  

 

Do we really have anothr waiting in the wings?  I’m loving this season as it is but can’t wait to see Lewis now too.  

[Defjamz26]

55 minutes ago, Fluke_33 said:

I was listening to Stephen holder on the stampede blue podcast.  He said the colts have been raving about tyquan Lewis to the extent that they are saying he will have a similar impact as Nelson and Leonard.   That sounds outlandish to me.  Those two were rookies of the month.  

 

Do we really have anothr waiting in the wings?  I’m loving this season as it is but can’t wait to see Lewis now too.  

I’d have to see it to believe it. He was maybe the 3rd best pass rusher on his team at Ohio State.

[#12.]

Is he ready to go?

[Fluke_33]

17 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

I’d have to see it to believe it. He was maybe the 3rd best pass rusher on his team at Ohio State.

Of course.  Exciting though if they are talking like that.  

 

He was only 3rd best.  I thought holder said he was 5th all time for the school in sacks. Maybe I misheard or misunderstood that part. 

[Nate!]

I do think they are legitimately high on him.  I’m assuming he flashed something really good to the powers that be as I believe going into camp they had him listed as a starter but then he got hurt.  I’m optimistic.

[Fluke_33]

18 minutes ago, #12. said:

Is he ready to go?

He didn’t say if  he'd be playing after the bye or not.  Just that they were gushing over him. 

[Luck 4 president]

He was projected to go in the 4th round so the scouts and Ballard must have really really liked him to trade up into the 2nd to take him. 

[Douzer]

He's still a rookie, who's never played a snap in the NFL. I'm very optimistic about him too, but there is way too much hype being pumped out for my taste.

[Fluke_33]

2 minutes ago, Douzer said:

He's still a rookie, who's never played a snap in the NFL. I'm very optimistic about him, but there way too much hype being pumped out for my taste.

I agree.  Just seems so unlike this team to extol about a player that way so I’m assuming there’s something to it.  

 

We will see soon enough. 

[#12.]

7 minutes ago, Luck 4 president said:

He was projected to go in the 4th round so the scouts and Ballard must have really really liked him to trade up into the 2nd to take him. 

Possibly had intel that someone else loved him, too.

[LockeDown]

 Ballard values scheme fit so Lewis must fit perfectly.  

[braveheartcolt]

They said RG3 was a HOFer. And that was after a season. We can only hope. 

[IndyD4U]

Well, if he's kicking big Q and Kelly's butt in practice then I'd be high on him too! 

[Luck 4 president]

13 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

Well, if he's kicking big Q and Kelly's butt in practice then I'd be high on him too! 

Is he?

[IndyD4U]

26 minutes ago, Luck 4 president said:

Is he?

That was a hypothetical. I'm certain he hasn't been going against the 3's

[NewEra]

54 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

Well, if he's kicking big Q and Kelly's butt in practice then I'd be high on him too! 

And tonadd to that. Our d-line is only going to get better going against those guys. Or so we'd hope

[USAFHoosier]

I remember hearing they were high on Lewis.  Hopefully he is healthy enough to come in and contribute.  Has pass rush potential from the 3 tech and can slide out to DE but we haven’t seen him against NFL competition yet.  

[Malakai432]

4 hours ago, Fluke_33 said:

I was listening to Stephen holder on the stampede blue podcast.  He said the colts have been raving about tyquan Lewis to the extent that they are saying he will have a similar impact as Nelson and Leonard.   That sounds outlandish to me.  Those two were rookies of the month.  

 

Do we really have anothr waiting in the wings?  I’m loving this season as it is but can’t wait to see Lewis now too.  

 

Ballard was on the local radio last week raving about him.  Made him sound like he's has potential to be a great 3-Tech and has the typical build the Colts want.  We'll just have to wait and see how he plays.  

[NewColtsFan]

3 hours ago, Luck 4 president said:

He was projected to go in the 4th round so the scouts and Ballard must have really really liked him to trade up into the 2nd to take him. 

 

To be sure,  it was a trade up....    but it was only about 3-4 spaces.    We traded up to pick 64, the last spot in the 2nd round.    

 

But I'd agree,  yes,  we really liked him.  

 

As for projections of 4th round,  I'd say that's mostly what we saw for Leonard for most of the run-up to the draft.    Sometimes those projections are just flat-out wrong.

 

 

[IinD]

Would be huge if he starts to prove he's a legit building block going forward. 

The timing of it is good as well. Our schedule isn't killer and any help along the Dline will be huge.

 

Go rookie...

[Malakai432]

8 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

To be sure,  it was a trade up....    but it was only about 3-4 spaces.    We traded up to pick 64, the last spot in the 2nd round.    

 

But I'd agree,  yes,  we really liked him.  

 

As for projections of 4th round,  I'd say that's mostly what we saw for Leonard for most of the run-up to the draft.    Sometimes those projections are just flat-out wrong.

 

 

 

hah, indeed they are.  I was more on the wait and see what he does train with Darius Leonard.  Others were like, "why the heck did we get this guy???"

 

One thing I did think was going to happen is Leonard was going to start lol.  He wasn't going to be a project.  

[Lawrence Owen]

3 hours ago, Douzer said:

He's still a rookie, who's never played a snap in the NFL. I'm very optimistic about him too, but there is way too much hype being pumped out for my taste.

 

3 hours ago, Fluke_33 said:

I agree.  Just seems so unlike this team to extol about a player that way so I’m assuming there’s something to it.  

 

We will see soon enough. 

To be fair, they did get to see him play vrs our o-line starters in TC, And was reportedly doing extremely well before his toe injury.  So our coaches did get an extended look at him and have already made up their minds on his abilities.  They obviously seen star power there. They had him playing both DT and DE, saying he excelled in both areas.

[MikeCurtis]

3 hours ago, Fluke_33 said:

Of course.  Exciting though if they are talking like that.  

 

He was only 3rd best.  I thought holder said he was 5th all time for the school in sacks. Maybe I misheard or misunderstood that part. 

They said he was top 5 all time...... Which he wasnt

 

He WAS a rotational player, and didnt see the 4th quarter in a few games if I remember correctly as they were blowing out some folks

 

[Fluke_33]

1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:

They said he was top 5 all time...... Which he wasnt

 

He WAS a rotational player, and didnt see the 4th quarter in a few games if I remember correctly as they were blowing out some folks

 

I don’t watch much college ball so I don’t know about being 3rd best on that team but I just looked it up and he is 5th in sacks all time for the school

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/leaders/sacks-player-career.html

 

[Fat Clemenza]

2 hours ago, Lawrence Owen said:

They obviously seen star power there

 

I know two things:

1.  Ballard has been a straight shooter with pretty much everything he's said since day 1. Very little hype or misdirection or b.s.  

 

2.  After seeing the production and potential of the three picks before Lewis, ALL of whom were critiqued as being picked too high by various sources, I think most here will agree Ballard and the coaching staff has earned some benefit of the doubt. Lewis is getting more hype than Leonard did. Think about that.  So yeah I'm pumped and I don't apologize for the optimism! 

[Virtuoso80]

1 hour ago, Fluke_33 said:

I don’t watch much college ball so I don’t know about being 3rd best on that team but I just looked it up and he is 5th in sacks all time for the school

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/leaders/sacks-player-career.html

 

that's for the big ten conference overall.  not just the school.

[MikeCurtis]

6 hours ago, Fluke_33 said:

I don’t watch much college ball so I don’t know about being 3rd best on that team but I just looked it up and he is 5th in sacks all time for the school

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/leaders/sacks-player-career.html

 

I looked at

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2015/03/51418/career-sacks-ohio-states-leaders

 

Then I saw the date........... 

 

Good catch

 

I hope the guy can make a difference

 

We have had very little rush the past few weeks

[Fluke_33]

8 hours ago, Virtuoso80 said:

that's for the big ten conference overall.  not just the school.

Ugh.  I just googled it and saw that.  Not sure what the answer is 

[MikeCurtis]

He is someone that can hold up against the run at LDE on early downs, as well as move inside on passing plays

 

He SHOULD be very valuable to the Colts

[ClaytonColt]

If Lewis is a good as they clearly believe he is then he could take this draft class from being pretty good one to a great one. We've got to remember that he's not a sure thing though and is probably something of a developmental project. 

[Tombstone]

Im assuming that Ballard sees that he can provide an impact that Jason Tuck provided for the Gaints in the pass rush area.

[HectorRoberts]

But I thought this whole draft class was full of “reaches” and “busts?”

[dw49]

13 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

To be sure,  it was a trade up....    but it was only about 3-4 spaces.    We traded up to pick 64, the last spot in the 2nd round.    

 

But I'd agree,  yes,  we really liked him.  

 

As for projections of 4th round,  I'd say that's mostly what we saw for Leonard for most of the run-up to the draft.    Sometimes those projections are just flat-out wrong.

 

 

 

How about  those "projected " to go like early second and go in the fourth ? You see it all the time and need to take the pendants projections with a grain of salt. Teams don't make their draft boards public ....

[Smonroe]

17 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

I’d have to see it to believe it. He was maybe the 3rd best pass rusher on his team at Ohio State.

 

2nd to probably a top 3 draft pick in Bosa.   I’d take that any day.  

 

Was that the podcast where Holder kept calling him Tyquan Smith?  

[Fluke_33]

10 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

2nd to probably a top 3 draft pick in Bosa.   I’d take that any day.  

 

Was that the podcast where Holder kept calling him Tyquan Smith?  

It’s on the stampede blue pod cast.  They have a mid season review that just came out. 

[hoosierhawk]

Walters had him going in the 6th round in their mock draft but they are generally way off in their projections.

[Stephen]

19 hours ago, Fluke_33 said:

I was listening to Stephen holder on the stampede blue podcast.  He said the colts have been raving about tyquan Lewis to the extent that they are saying he will have a similar impact as Nelson and Leonard.   That sounds outlandish to me.  Those two were rookies of the month.  

 

Do we really have anothr waiting in the wings?  I’m loving this season as it is but can’t wait to see Lewis now too.  

Most of the experts said he is more polished than turay when we picked him and were thinking he'd have a bigger impact than Turay his first year

[jskinnz]

12 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

Walters had him going in the 6th round in their mock draft but they are generally way off in their projections.

 

Draft projections by the terminally clueless cannot be more meaningless.  Which is to say draft projections by anyone other than the teams are meaningless.

[Smonroe]

1 hour ago, Fluke_33 said:

It’s on the stampede blue pod cast.  They have a mid season review that just came out. 

 

Right, that was the one he did with Danely.  He did one by himself before that where he kept talking about Tyquan Smith.  

 

I had to check the roster to see if I was having a senior moment.  And I’m a Buckeye!

[VaAllDay757]

I hope he starts week 10 but the reports are saying week 11