All Colts Head Coach Discussions (merge) The Indianapolis Colts Are Officially Eliminated From The 2017 Playoffs

[Virtuoso80]

Another head coach possibility being mentioned: KC Offensive Coordinator Matt Nagy

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/12/20/16799850/could-chiefs-offensive-coordinator-matt-nagy-be-the-colts-next-head-coach

 

Disregard if already mentioned earlier.

[Fisticuffs111]

So just out of pure boredom...if you had to make a list of 5 candidates to bring in for interviews, who would they be? I'm leaving out guys I think we have no shot at like Harbaugh and David Shaw...

 

My list would be: McDaniels, Frank Reich, Pat Shurmur, Toub, and Nagy as a dark horse.

 

So even as my top guys, the list doesn't seem too exciting. I edited/went back and forth on Pete Carmichael but left him off. He's a great coordinator but from what I've read I don't know if he'd be the HC type. Also we interviewed him back in 2012.

[dudley dawson]

Bob Kravitz and JMV think we should consider Mike Shanahan.  I'd be on board with this.

[krunk]

27 minutes ago, dudley dawson said:

Bob Kravitz and JMV think we should consider Mike Shanahan.  I'd be on board with this.

I like Shanahans system.  I'm sort of back and forth as to whether I think he is still relevant though. I'm also not sure if he'd stay with the 3-4 defense.  Usually utilized a 4-3.  I could see him and Ballard getting along though.

[richard pallo]

34 minutes ago, dudley dawson said:

Bob Kravitz and JMV think we should consider Mike Shanahan.  I'd be on board with this.

That's interesting.  He seems to have fallen off the radar although I thought he might have been a candidate last year when we all thought Chuck was gone.  I could see him as a strong possibility if he wants tot get back into coaching. 

[aReggie7]

I haven't seen him mentioned on here but I think Steve Wilks is another person to seriously consider. This is his first year as the Defensive Coordinator in Carolina but has been their Assistant Head Coach since 2015. I think he is considered a candidate for the NYG opening. He appears to be a fast riser in the coaching world. 

[tucky89]

Jeff Fisher anyone?

 

 

According to Arizona Sports' Mike Jurecki, ex-Rams coach Jeff Fisher wants to get back into the NFL in 2018 and "could be eyeing" the Bears, Browns, and Colts' jobs if they open.

The Ringer's Mike Lombardi recently advised not to rule out Fisher getting another shot due to having a "lot of contacts" around the league and in the NFL offices. Fisher played and coached for the Bears back in the 1980s. But after his disaster run with the Rams and now seeing Sean McVay turn it around in just one season, it would be near impossible to sell a fan base on Fisher.

Related: Bears, Browns, Colts

[colt82]

32 minutes ago, tucky89 said:

Jeff Fisher anyone?

 

 

According to Arizona Sports' Mike Jurecki, ex-Rams coach Jeff Fisher wants to get back into the NFL in 2018 and "could be eyeing" the Bears, Browns, and Colts' jobs if they open.

The Ringer's Mike Lombardi recently advised not to rule out Fisher getting another shot due to having a "lot of contacts" around the league and in the NFL offices. Fisher played and coached for the Bears back in the 1980s. But after his disaster run with the Rams and now seeing Sean McVay turn it around in just one season, it would be near impossible to sell a fan base on Fisher.

Related: Bears, Browns, Colts

I think the consensus in the NFL is that Fisher is toxic. He totally lost the rams the last year he was there. I’m going to throw a name out there that’s sure to generate discussion: Urban Meyer. Don’t know if he would even consider it, but he strikes me as being a Pete Carroll type, flexible enough to change his system to suit his resources. Although he has little or no NFL experience, you can’t argue with the success he’s had everywhere else. Okay, hit me with your best shot...

[DarkHorse]

Pass on fisher

[NewColtsFan]

6 hours ago, dudley dawson said:

Bob Kravitz and JMV think we should consider Mike Shanahan.  I'd be on board with this.

 

When he was coaching at Denver...  at some point he gained some of control over personnel decisions and apparently did that aspect of the job very poorly.    

 

I remember one writer saying that the Mike Shannahan who controlled the personnel completely key down the Mike Dhannahan who coached the team, and that was a key reason why he eventually lost his job in Denver...

 

Dint know what happened in DC besides the RG3 mess and the Skins are a hugely disfunctional mess if an organization.

 

They make the Grigson-Pagano mess look positively civil.    

 

I wouldn't rule him out and would certainly be willing to interview him.  Mid-60's, so there may still be tread left on the tires...

 

[loudnproudcolt]

I have not seen his name mentioned here, or in the media which is surprising, but what about Todd Haley. I know it did not end well in Arizona, but he has taken Pitt's offense to a new level, playing to their strengths. If we want an offensive minded guy, he seems like he would be on the radar, but I just don't hear his name which as successful as their offense has been the past two seasons is surprising.

[OLD FAN MAN]

need an offensive guru hc, who hires an oc with the same style

[Defjamz26]

Quick question as I’ve been reading the various topics on the board about a HC. Am I right in saying that based upon all of the comments about Tubb that people’s reluctance to him and almost any ST’s coach is because people think that he doesn’t know his X’s and O’s because he doesn’t directly coach offense or defense? That’s what I’m getting from all the comments. Are people really that dense? What exactly do people think a ST’s coach does? Just teach people how to cover kick returns? I hope this is not the case.

[buccolts]

On 12/20/2017 at 11:22 AM, Fisticuffs111 said:

So just out of pure boredom...if you had to make a list of 5 candidates to bring in for interviews, who would they be? I'm leaving out guys I think we have no shot at like Harbaugh and David Shaw...

 

My list would be: McDaniels, Frank Reich, Pat Shurmur, Toub, and Nagy as a dark horse.

 

So even as my top guys, the list doesn't seem too exciting. I edited/went back and forth on Pete Carmichael but left him off. He's a great coordinator but from what I've read I don't know if he'd be the HC type. Also we interviewed him back in 2012.

Rooney Rule violation. 

[Carlos Danger]

Lol @ Jeff Fisher  "eyeing" these coaching jobs. 

 

He is awful. He is absolutely toxic. Just reading about him taking credit for this year's Rams makes me giggle. He never passes up an opportunity to pat himself on the back despite the indisputable fact that he isn't a good coach. 

[Fisticuffs111]

2 hours ago, buccolts said:

Rooney Rule violation. 

Ha yeah I actually thought about including that I hadn't fulfilled with Rooney Rule.

If Todd Bowles were to get fired I'd bring him in for an interview. 

[1959Colts]

Rumors are swirling of Jon Gruden to Tampa Bay, to the point he is choosing his assistants.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/24/jon-gruden-touching-base-with-assistant-coaches-about-joining-his-staff/

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/24/scuttlebutt-of-dirk-koetter-for-jon-gruden-swap-persists/

 

Gruden had been mentioned as one of Irsay's favorites

[gacoop1]

I think Mike Shanahan makes sense, he's good at developing running backs, especially if we pick at #3 picking Barkley.

[richard pallo]

22 minutes ago, gacoop1 said:

I think Mike Shanahan makes sense, he's good at developing running backs, especially if we pick at #3 picking Barkley.

I can see him as a candidate. 

[JColts72]

18 hours ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Ha yeah I actually thought about including that I hadn't fulfilled with Rooney Rule.

If Todd Bowles were to get fired I'd bring him in for an interview. 

Why? May as well get Lovie Smith. Get Cooter from Lions.

[JColts72]

On 12/22/2017 at 8:48 PM, OLD FAN MAN said:

need an offensive guru hc, who hires an oc with the same style

Agree all the way. When was last time that happened? Maybe with Lindy after Ted and perhaps Meyer.

[Fisticuffs111]

36 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Why? May as well get Lovie Smith. Get Cooter from Lions.

I was just responding about the Rooney Rule, who I'd try to bring in. I don't love Bowles, I think he's alright. I don't really want a defensive minded guy though, I want to pair Luck with an offensive specialist.

[JColts72]

44 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I was just responding about the Rooney Rule, who I'd try to bring in. I don't love Bowles, I think he's alright. I don't really want a defensive minded guy though, I want to pair Luck with an offensive specialist.

Oh yes the rooney rule quota sytem.

[zibby43]

Jon Gruden is contacting potential assistants, per reports.

 

Bad news is, he wants nothing to do with the Colts.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-jon-gruden-contacting-possible-assistants-151724206.html

[Imrryr]

What are the odds that we keep chuck? I mean no real proven coaches on the market etc. Its a possibility i think. Not saying i want him to be i just dont wanna be caught off guard

[BOTT]

1 hour ago, Imrryr said:

What are the odds that we keep chuck? I mean no real proven coaches on the market etc. Its a possibility i think. Not saying i want him to be i just dont wanna be caught off guard

1'000'000'000 to 1

[richard pallo]

56 minutes ago, Imrryr said:

What are the odds that we keep chuck? I mean no real proven coaches on the market etc. Its a possibility i think. Not saying i want him to be i just dont wanna be caught off guard

I wouldn't rule it out entirely.  They could agree on changing out Chud and Philbin.  I do feel like Jim wants a big time hire like Gruden or Harbaugh for example.  If he can't get one then he just might give Chuck another year.  Reporters will be digging hard this week so reports could surface.  In any event we will know soon enough.  

[Defjamz26]

4 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jon Gruden is contacting potential assistants, per reports.

 

Bad news is, he wants nothing to do with the Colts.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-jon-gruden-contacting-possible-assistants-151724206.html

From what I heard, it’s because he would have wanted control of personnel decisions. And it makes sense given the issues he had in Tampa. I’m fine passing on him if that’s the case. Ballard knows what he’s doing. Im hearing he wants to go back to the Bucs.

[Defjamz26]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

I wouldn't rule it out entirely.  They could agree on changing out Chud and Philbin.  I do feel like Jim wants a big time hire like Gruden or Harbaugh for example.  If he can't get one then he just might give Chuck another year.  Reporters will be digging hard this week so reports could surface.  In any event we will know soon enough.  

Irsay needs to stop making front office decisions now that he’s hired Ballard. Let the guy get his own coach. It was wrong for him to force Pagano on him in the first place, and I’m grateful it didn’t push Ballard away. 

[Coltfreak]

8 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jon Gruden is contacting potential assistants, per reports.

 

Bad news is, he wants nothing to do with the Colts.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-jon-gruden-contacting-possible-assistants-151724206.html

That's not bad news.  That's great news

[NewColtsFan]

11 hours ago, JColts72 said:

Oh yes the rooney rule quota sytem.

 

You object?

 

All thus does is get possible candidates a chance to interview for a HC job.   No guarantee of being hired.    

 

Impossible to get the job if you can't even get an interview...

 

 

[jblastick]

8 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jon Gruden is contacting potential assistants, per reports.

 

Bad news is, he wants nothing to do with the Colts.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-jon-gruden-contacting-possible-assistants-151724206.html

I just read through the article briefly but didn’t see anything about him wanting nothing to do with the Colts.  Was that reported somewhere else?

[NewColtsFan]

6 minutes ago, jblastick said:

I just read through the article briefly but didn’t see anything about him wanting nothing to do with the Colts.  Was that reported somewhere else?

 

No....      that's the poster's interpretation of things...   

 

[NewColtsFan]

9 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jon Gruden is contacting potential assistants, per reports.

 

Bad news is, he wants nothing to do with the Colts.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-jon-gruden-contacting-possible-assistants-151724206.html

 

You've jumped to a conclusion.     You may be right,  but you may be wrong as well.

 

All we know is that it's being reported that his first choice,  his top choice,  is Tampa Bay.

 

But the story does NOT SAY that TB is Gruden's ONLY choice.      So, he may be interested in the Colts, but perhaps not to the same degree...     

 

We really don't know Gruden's wish list at all....      at least,  not yet.

 

 

[Colts_Fan12]

On 12/20/2017 at 5:21 PM, dudley dawson said:

Bob Kravitz and JMV think we should consider Mike Shanahan.  I'd be on board with this.

Hope not he's how old now 

[zibby43]

4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

You've jumped to a conclusion.     You may be right,  but you may be wrong as well.

 

All we know is that it's being reported that his first choice,  his top choice,  is Tampa Bay.

 

But the story does NOT SAY that TB is Gruden's ONLY choice.      So, he may be interested in the Colts, but perhaps not to the same degree...     

 

We really don't know Gruden's wish list at all....      at least,  not yet.

 

 

 

Can't argue that point.

 

I'm definitely assuming.  I had the TV on in the background and someone (think he was from CBS) was reporting that Tampa Bay is the only team Gruden would consider.  At the moment.  That's when I went digging for a link to share.

 

Could be smoke to drive up the price though. 

 

Regardless, I could've been clearer and less lazy in my OP.

 

What do you think of Gruden?

[zibby43]

4 hours ago, jblastick said:

I just read through the article briefly but didn’t see anything about him wanting nothing to do with the Colts.  Was that reported somewhere else?

 

It was reported elsewhere.  I neglected to mention that in my post.

 

I initially heard the "Grumors" on live television.  Then went to dig up the link because it the news of Gruden sniffing around hadn't been shared yet.

 

Apologies for any confusion.

[2006Coltsbestever]

A lot of rumors will be floating around. I haven't heard anything concrete but I have a feeling Toub will be the guy just from everything I have been reading. He has ties with Ballard from KC. I say no way to guys like Fisher and Lovie and Jon Gruden has no interest. Harbaugh probably isn't leaving Michigan either. I guess we may have a shot at McDaniels? I do like Jim Bob Cooter as well and the Lions have imploded so who knows?

[JColts72]

8 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

You object?

 

All thus does is get possible candidates a chance to interview for a HC job.   No guarantee of being hired.    

 

Impossible to get the job if you can't even get an interview...

 

 

No. Don't object to league formality. Wonder how many black coaches got hired through such process.

[BOTT]

1 hour ago, JColts72 said:

No. Don't object to league formality. Wonder how many black coaches got hired through such process.

I'm guessing not many on the first interview.  But that first interview gets their foot in the door and their name gets tossed around league circles if they are impressive.