Say What You Want

[snkdy]

In my opinion, having the game well in hand and then giving it away in the 4th quarter is more frustrating than simply being overmatched like in Week 1. I'm thrilled to see the improvement, but the ending of that game was aggravating to say the least. 

[Freenyfan102]

4 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

We improved. 

 

Bottom line 

You give participation trophy and not keep score for games don't you

[ColtTerp]

I'm not even mad we lost this game. I'm mad at how we lost it. Up 13-3 and still find a way to choke this game away and that's including a gift missed Fg at the end of regulation and getting the ball first in OT. Press the reset button and be done with it.

[IndyD4U]

I've been a Colts fan before Luck,  even before Peyton. I can deal with the adversity. I see improvements. Are we there? Not a chance in hell, but we improved 

 

You don't have to agree. 

 

I can accept that 

[deedub75]

We played them without their star runningback and still lost. 

[IndyD4U]

1 minute ago, Freenyfan102 said:

You give participation trophy and not keep score for games don't you

Don't come at me with attacks. Contribute. Say something meaningful 

[Fisticuffs111]

While there are improvements I just still see too many problems.

I think getting absolutely blown out by the Rams kind of makes this game look good mostly in comparison.

If they only go up from here then that's great, this game could be looked at as a stepping stone. But if things continue on like this, which I think the final score would look worse if we were playing a better team, then I wouldn't look back on it too positively.

[IndyD4U]

If you thought that this team was better than 8-8 (even with Luck) going into the season then you're foolish. 

 

We're rebuilding. Half the roster has turned over. I'm looking at the foundation that Ballard is building. Looking at the big picture. 

[Freenyfan102]

12 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

We improved. 

 

Bottom line 

You give participation trophy and not keep score for games don't you

 

4 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

Don't come at me with attacks. Contribute. Say something meaningful 

 

 

Okay the colts defense blew it again.If it not the offense its the defense. 

[King Colt]

33 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

But I'm damn proud of this team. Considering how they played last week, much improved. 

 

Still some things to work on but we'll get there 

Can't argue with that.

[Colts_Fan12]

25 minutes ago, IinD said:

Way better then watching 56-9.

 

Sucks because at 0-2 odds are we are heading for a losing season.

Good maybe we can finally cut our dead weight that is chuck pagano 

[Smonroe]

4 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

If you thought that this team was better than 8-8 (even with Luck) going into the season then you're foolish. 

 

We're rebuilding. Half the roster has turned over. I'm looking at the foundation that Ballard is building. Looking at the big picture. 

 

Ignore the downers.  From the beginning, with more than 3/4 new starters, we knew we were rebuilding. It doesn't happen overnight.  

 

I saw improvement.  I saw a very young and inexperienced defense play very well against a very experienced QB. Apparently a lot of others wanted to see magic, so they're disappointed.  

[King Colt]

The better Brissett performs the more games the Colts will win adding to the "Sit Luck All Year" movement of which I am president of (I won that lection fair & square). If you don't want Luck healthy for the next ten years then trade him now and let someone else bandage him.

[Fisticuffs111]

There's no need to turn it into a pessimism vs optimism war.

I liked some of what I saw, and I understand we're rebuilding, but I still think there are way too many issues mainly due to coaching. If that's too pessimistic so be it, but I think we'll always have games like today with this staff.

[zibby43]

This loss is kind of a good thing, no? 

 

Listen, we just can't stick with Pagano anymore.  Another 0-2 start.  Team is still committing penalties and turnovers at the worst possible times. 

 

This franchise has to start to build a truly talented roster with depth that can play competitively with the perennial playoff teams both at home and on the road. 

 

I'm also not really that proud of the team.  They're getting paid millions of dollars to win these games.  The fact that they avoided total embarrassment, even with a backup QB, should be a given in my opinion. 

 

Not trying to be the Grinch.  Just trying to look at the situation objectively. 

[Colts_Fan12]

2 minutes ago, zibby43 said:

This loss is kind of a good thing, no? 

 

Listen, we just can't stick with Pagano anymore.  Another 0-2 start.  Team is still committing penalties and turnovers at the worst possible times. 

 

This franchise has to start to build a truly talented roster with depth that can play competitively with the perennial playoff teams both at home and on the road. 

I agree it is a good thing the faster we dump chuck the better 

[IndySouthsider]

When I see Andrew Luck. I don't see a man even close to ready for Football. 

 

Its only my humble opinion. But I don't believe for a second he plays this year. 

[Carlos Danger]

Sure only 10% of teams that start 0-2 make the playoffs, but don't misinterpret that stat. That is, it doesn't mean that Indy has a 10% chance to make the playoffs.

 

They are one game out and haven't played any division games yet.

 

JB was a giant improvement over that other guy and he's had limited time to learn the offense, which is part of the play-calling issue. That last play was ugly, but I was encouraged, overall. Eventually we won't have to adjust the playbook for him much, if at all, from what we want to run with Luck. That trade is looking good, atm. 

 

Speaking of Luck, he will be back soon, probably in 2 or 3 weeks, but surely soon enough to make a run at the division and the playoffs. There is still no team in our division that is good enough to run away with it, even with a possible 3 game lead going into week 5. 

[Tunggreat]

On the bright side: We're one game out of first place.

 

On the dark side: We're in last place.

[Coltsman1788]

This team makes my head hurt.  Nice job snatching defeat from the jaws of victory this week.

[joecolts18]

We lost this game for the same reasons we've lost many:  Poor game management and coaching.  Chuck Pagano is a good man, probably a good D.C. but, a bad head coach.  He and Grigson should have been fired 2 years ago instead of having their contracts extended.  If that would have occurred, a good GM like Ballard (or someone else at that time) and a real head coach could have fixed the offensive line in front of Luck and worked on a shotty defensive unit.  Sure, the defense played better today.  They'll get better next week but, that's not the point.  We have wasted 2+ years with Luck because of the poor management and coaching.  We are now who we are for the past failures.

[colts8718]

1 hour ago, IndyD4U said:

But I'm damn proud of this team. Considering how they played last week, much improved. 

 

Still some things to work on but we'll get there 

All we need now is a coach

[Introspect]

1 hour ago, VaAllDay757 said:

If luck ain't practicing this week someone needs to be fired

wth??

 

If Luck says he's a no go then he is......

[coach kline]

1 hour ago, deedub75 said:

Arizona is a really bad team. 

What does that make us? We're worse

[zibby43]

Why has Philbin failed to teach our OL to react to defensive linemen jumping into the neutral zone?

 

Every NFL team, besides the Colts, has linemen capable of doing this.

 

It's Article 4, b): It is a neutral zone infraction when . . . a defender enters the neutral zone prior to the snap, causing the offensive player(s) in close proximity (including a quarterback who is under center) to react (move) immediately to protect himself (themselves) against impending contact.

 

Colts failed to capitalize on this at least once during the second half, during a crucial series no less.

[Introspect]

1 minute ago, colts8718 said:

All we need now is a coach

 

The coach we need beat us today..... Luck and Arians can be at the level of Brees and Sean Payton...

[VaAllDay757]

6 minutes ago, Introspect said:

wth??

 

If Luck says he's a no go then he is......

It's not luck's word it's the team doctor and coaches who gives the green light

[IndyD4U]

6 minutes ago, colts8718 said:

All we need now is a coach

I agree 100%. 

[Smash Mouth]

1 hour ago, Aluckiswolverine said:

Get ready for the typical Pagano press conference. Proud of this team they played hard cliche 

He should be fired tonight just so we don't have to listen to that drivel at his presser tomorrow. There's nothing else to say - we suck.

[dw49]

27 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Sure only 10% of teams that start 0-2 make the playoffs, but don't misinterpret that stat. That is, it doesn't mean that Indy has a 10% chance to make the playoffs.

 

They are one game out and haven't played any division games yet.

 

JB was a giant improvement over that other guy and he's had limited time to learn the offense, which is part of the play-calling issue. That last play was ugly, but I was encouraged, overall. Eventually we won't have to adjust the playbook for him much, if at all, from what we want to run with Luck. That trade is looking good, atm. 

 

Speaking of Luck, he will be back soon, probably in 2 or 3 weeks, but surely soon enough to make a run at the division and the playoffs. There is still no team in our division that is good enough to run away with it, even with a possible 3 game lead going into week 5. 

 

 

What are you basing you statement "he will be back soon, probably in 2 or 3 weeks" on ? 

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Smash Mouth said:

He should be fired tonight just so we don't have to listen to that drivel at his presser tomorrow. There's nothing else to say - we suck.

I agree I would rather listen to your drivel, it's very positive and much better.

[ricker182]

I was quite impressed with Brissett. 

He's not great, but he can zip the ball. Most of his throws were "NFL" tier.   

  

Moncrief really disappointed me today. He looked lost.  In a contract year too.   

But (O)'Doyle DOES rule. 

 

Oline was much better, but the penalties were egregious. 

 

Castonzo continues to be a bad contract. Average Olineman, huge contract.     

  

I cannot say much bad about the defense. The lack of coverage over the middle is still a giant issue that will not be solved without better LB'ers. I do not think the Cardinal's offense is very good though and Palmer is a shell of his former self. 

  

Pagano didn't really do anything embarrassing today.  

  

The playcalling could have been more suited towards Brissett's style of play, but I cannot blame the staff for not having every option for a QB that they just brought in.   

Huge failure on the FO's part for not signing a competent QB before camp after it was evident Luck was going to miss some time. That's on Ballard. The writing was on the wall. 

[#12.]

1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said:

Speaking of Luck, he will be back soon, probably in 2 or 3 weeks, but surely soon enough to make a run at the division and the playoffs. There is still no team in our division that is good enough to run away with it, even with a possible 3 game lead going into week 5. 

 

No way they make a run at 0-4 or 0-5, even in ithis division.  They really needed this game.  The Browns game is pretty much the season.  Lose it, and it's over.  Even if you win it, you are practically guaranteed to be 1-3 the following week.

[NewEra]

IMO got out coached down the stretch once again. We haven't had a good rhythm offense In awhile. Dink and dunk controlling the ball is still moving the chains. I don't get why we don't try to do more of that.

[Myles]

4 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

No way they make a run at 0-4 or 0-5, even in ithis division.  They really needed this game.  The Browns game is pretty much the season.  Lose it, and it's over.  Even if you win it, you are practically guaranteed to be 1-3 the following week.

I agree, they need to win next week to even have a slight shot.  We just lost 2 of our easier games of the season.

[rockywoj]

11 minutes ago, ricker182 said:

.... 

Pagano didn't really do anything embarrassing today. ...

 

Really bad challenge early on the TY screw up on 3rd down.  The very first replay shown clearly showed TY touched down before his second lunge forward. This is either on Pagano or the coach telling him to challenge. It was obvious TY was short. Not hugely impactful as it turned out, but still a coaching blunder needlessly resulting in the loss of precious time outs.  

 

The BIG blunder was on 3rd down of the Colts last possession in the 4th quarter.  3rd and what, 14 with only 20-something seconds left? You have to do a play that, if you don't pick up the 1st down, it at least results in the clock continuing to run, thereby forcing the Cardinals to burn their last time out, leaving them virtually no time to drive the field for a winning FG.  This blunder really should have cost the game, as it allowed the Cards to drive down for what should have been the game winning FG. 

 

I also don't like that at the end of the 1st half, with a timeout remaining, the Colts opted to just run out the clock on 3rd down instead of taking another shot at getting the 1st down and into FG range. Just defeatist coaching, to me. 

 

So as I see it, three blatantly bad coaching decisions.  This staff continues to NOT put the team into the best position to win.

 

Despite this week's much more encouraging performance, I see continued amateur hour by the coaching staff, yet again.

[#12.]

23 minutes ago, ricker182 said:

I was quite impressed with Brissett. 

He's not great, but he can zip the ball. Most of his throws were "NFL" tier.   

 

He's fine for a backup.  He's good enough to steal a game here or there, especially if this roster were better.  That's all you ask for in a backup.

[azcolt]

Thanks. I'm glad I can say what I want. 

[TheRustonRifle#7]

Two questions...who committed the 15 yard penalty in the 4th that lead to the Cards TD?  Second, was Hairston blitzing as a CB on his sack?

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, TheRustonRifle#7 said:

Two questions...who committed the 15 yard penalty in the 4th that lead to the Cards TD?  Second, was Hairston blitzing as a CB on his sack?

 

It was 93, although it was a really petty call. They gave up the 3-20 anyways which was a joke. Then added that 15 yard penalty.