PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Buck Showalter said: So this is an awesome sign right??? Cause this joker Brad Wells is wrong about just about everything right??? I am not sure why he is a Colts Insider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 According to Garafolo, it's 9M per year base salary. The rest is probably incentives. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: I am not sure why he is a Colts Insider  He's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:  Ask & you shall receive.  It figures he wouldn't like it  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, masterlock said: Considering how crucial the NT position is to making the 3-4 defense work, and considering Hankins is one of the best nose tackles in the league, I don't think paying $10M/year over 3 years is too much. This is a good signing. Very pleased!  Does someone have a link showing where Hankins ranks as a NT? I have no doubt he is an ascending NT but not sure I'd say he's one of the best right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Superman said:  He's not. Not sure why he is even tweeting on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, BProland85 said:  Does someone have a link showing where Hankins ranks as a NT? I have no doubt he is an ascending NT but not sure I'd say he's one of the best right now. Not sure but many in here wanted him over Poe and thought he was better than Poe and Poe is considered top 5 at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Gotta say, anybody who doesn't think Ballard has done a magnificent job improving this front 7 at this point is just trolling. Utter tosh. Paper teams prove nothing. Let's discuss in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, BProland85 said:  Does someone have a link showing where Hankins ranks as a NT? I have no doubt he is an ascending NT but not sure I'd say he's one of the best right now. Don't have the hard facts but the NFL had Poe at 10 and Hankins at 11 in their list of Top FAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masnerj Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 If you really think about it, I would take Hankins over Poe if I could do free agency all over again.  Yes, Poe is the better player right now and was absolutely dynamic before this past year BUT he also has worse of an injury problem than Hankins. That back is highly questionable and he seems to be going downhill to be honest. Not to mention he has played wayyy too many plays as a NT which has probably increased his risk to injuries. Hankins is younger, has more upside, and in my opinion is more well-rounded.  Hankins with a 3/30 mill deal over Poe's one year deal any day, in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: Don't have the hard facts but the NFL had Poe at 10 and Hankins at 11 in their list of Top FAs I thought Poe was actually Top 5 on most peoples list but Hankins at 11 is solid Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Good deal. Should be productive but he played with better D players in NY. That added to his defensive numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, masnerj said: If you really think about it, I would take Hankins over Poe if I could do free agency all over again.  Yes, Poe is the better player right now and was absolutely dynamic before this past year BUT he also has worse of an injury problem than Hankins. That back is highly questionable and he seems to be going downhill to be honest. Not to mention he has played wayyy too many plays as a NT which has probably increased his risk to injuries. Hankins is younger, has more upside, and in my opinion is more well-rounded.  Hankins with a 3/30 mill deal over Poe's one year deal any day, in hindsight. I would too, he is a lot younger so his upside is endless. Poe is a Very Good to Great player but is older and has back issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I thought Poe was actually Top 5 on most peoples list but Hankins at 11 is solid Good. The NFLN had Poe at 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: Not sure why he is even tweeting on it  He can tweet whatever he wants, but people would do well to remember that he made his "name" as a trolling, hateful blogger with zero access and less credibility. He claims to have a source, but everything he's shared from his source has failed to come about (he has two weeks left on his most recent prediction, that Manning would join the Colts FO sometime before the draft). He's just another guy with an opinion, definitely not an insider, and for my money, not worth acknowledging.  JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Just now, PrincetonTiger said: The NFLN had Poe at 10 Oh, I didn't see their list but that is the NFL's main Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, masnerj said: If you really think about it, I would take Hankins over Poe if I could do free agency all over again.  Yes, Poe is the better player right now and was absolutely dynamic before this past year BUT he also has worse of an injury problem than Hankins. That back is highly questionable and he seems to be going downhill to be honest. Not to mention he has played wayyy too many plays as a NT which has probably increased his risk to injuries. Hankins is younger, has more upside, and in my opinion is more well-rounded.  Hankins with a 3/30 mill deal over Poe's one year deal any day, in hindsight.  I wasn't excited about Poe. He's older, and has that weird back situation. I'd rather have Hankins, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Just now, Superman said:  He can tweet whatever he wants, but people would do well to remember that he made his "name" as a trolling, hateful blogger with zero access and less credibility. He claims to have a source, but everything he's shared from his source has failed to come about (he has two weeks left on his most recent prediction, that Manning would join the Colts FO sometime before the draft). He's just another guy with an opinion, definitely not an insider, and for my money, not worth acknowledging.  JMO I used Insider loosely  My Opinion too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Superman said:  He can tweet whatever he wants, but people would do well to remember that he made his "name" as a trolling, hateful blogger with zero access and less credibility. He claims to have a source, but everything he's shared from his source has failed to come about (he has two weeks left on his most recent prediction, that Manning would join the Colts FO sometime before the draft). He's just another guy with an opinion, definitely not an insider, and for my money, not worth acknowledging.  JMO I assume you are talking about Bradley Wells  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Oh, I didn't see their list but that is the NFL's main Network. It is on the NFL.com website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, braveheartcolt said: Utter tosh. Paper teams prove nothing. Let's discuss in December. Â I wouldn't use the word "magnificent," but I definitely expect the front seven to be better this season than it's been in a while. Not sure about the pass rush, but run stopping and discipline on the edges should be dramatically improved. Of course, only what happens on the field matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Just now, PrincetonTiger said: It is on the NFL.com website I didn't even look but Top 10 is where you want to be and Hankins is 11 so he is right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ProblChld32 said: Dont forget OLB that position still will be addressed imo with the 1st or 2nd pick. That's not as pressing a need as ILB and CB though. We can't start Edwin Jackson, Morrison, and Melvin. Plus those are Grigson guys which Ballard is quickly getting rid of. Two things they had in Chicago and KC when he was there was LBs and CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 4 hours ago, SilentHill said: so is it 14.5 or 15.9GTD? Â Â I still like the deal, instant improvement on defense, and Hankins was better suited for his new role as a 3-4 NT than a 4-3 DT so I think this will end up being a really good deal. Â Â We could never get our moneys worth if he isn`t out there playing a bunch in our 4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts52761 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Gerald Hodges Next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-549 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Where is 449?  Not BR-449 but Colts449  I mean seriously... where is our guy from Kwhy  ...sorry couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Â Ask & you shall receive. Â Â Â Thanks for posting that. I feel a lot better about this signing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 It seems JH is a very standup guy based on his farewell tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackeen305 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 #ColtsFans Chris Ballard needs to sign DT Hankins. (2 mins later, Hankins signs) #ColtsFans They over paid him (my point) Even if the contract is $30/3 years, "some of you guys are crying about the contract. Can I remind you, Hankins is 6-2 320 lbs naturally. We have Parry 6-1 310 lbs playing the nose (NT). COME ON MAN. you stress that we need a guy, then when we get the guy you still complain?  Hankins is 25 years young and you got 6-2 320 Lbs. for 3 yes/$30 Mill. Its not like he will be playing out of position, We know that he can play and he's in the prime of his career.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Overseas Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Run stopping lost us making the playoffs, when the Texans ran it down our throats in LOS, the biggest game of our season. With Hankins, a fit Anderson and Langford, Simon and Sheard at OLB, and Id expect a high draft pick at ILB, we should see a clear improvement on run D. Ballard always said 'its all about your fronts'.  He is backing his statement up. This is a statement of intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Rackeen305 said: #ColtsFans Chris Ballard needs to sign DT Hankins. (2 mins later, Hankins signs) #ColtsFans They over paid him (my point) Even if the contract is $30/3 years, "some of you guys are crying about the contract. Can I remind you, Hankins is 6-2 320 lbs naturally. We have Parry 6-1 310 lbs playing the nose (NT). COME ON MAN. you stress that we need a guy, then when we get the guy you still complain?  Hankins is 25 years young and you got 6-2 320 Lbs. for 3 yes/$30 Mill. Its not like he will be playing out of position, We know that he can play and he's in the prime of his career.  Sad but True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Bowens articles are silly some times. Â When you sign a guy to 10 million a year he is the starter. Â http://m.colts.com/s/30853/370?itemUri=-1236914702/98807890071175342914112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, colts52761 said: Gerald Hodges Next ? Or maybe Austin Pasztor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts52761 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 can he play guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Alexander Morillo Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 minute ago, colts52761 said: can he play guard? Of course he can. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, colts52761 said: can he play guard? The better question is "can he cover a wide receiver?" Lol. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslo1812 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: Â I think my favorite part of this deal is this.... Â Compromise. Â Odds are Hankins came DOWN in the number of years.... Â And the Colts came UP in the number of dollars on a per year basis. Â And we met in the middle, Â 3 years, 30 million. Â Even better is that the three years are right in the middle of Hankins' Prime Years! Â Â Â Perfect!! Â Nice effort by Ballard and Irsay to make this happen. Â Â Good for the Hankins crew to compromise as well. Â Win-win are my favorite kind of deals..... Â Excellent perspective and way to see it NCF!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 YES!!!!!!!!!!! BOO YAH BABY. Hankins is a monster, and will thrive at NT with us. We just drastically improved our D. Now get a couple EDGE rushers and a corner in the draft and its on baby!!!!!!!  Also. He'll play the nose on base formations, then we'll keep him in there in sub packages too IMO.....Why? Because he's our best DT and maybe....Possibly our best defensive player. Say our base D is Kendall Langford - Johnathan Hankins - Henry Anderson. I expect Anderson to be a beast, but on sub packages one of Langford or Anderson will come out instead of big Hankins. JMO. Which one comes out obviously depends on which of Langford or Anderson is having the best year. My hope is Ridgeway comes in and has a breakout year and starts over Langford, but we shall see.  I don't care about the contract as I believe he'll be a top 3ish nose tackle in the NFL this year.  I'm so happy man!!!!! I mean just. HELL YEAH BABY!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Superman said:  I know he got moved out of position. I think I know how good he is, no question he's a really good player. I just never thought he was worthy of $10m/year. If we deploy him in a way that allows him to get pressure on the QB, then we can maximize his value to us. If he's just a two down guy anchoring against the run, then it's not worth it, IMO. Yeah I agree. He has to be a 3 down contributor for us at that price. Sure he can't play every snap but he has to be able to contribute on all 3 downs. I like that he is young (just turned 25) so he is entering his prime...but it is a lot of money....a lot. Maybe I'm gun shy with the the Jones deal so fresh and the fact so many others passed over this guy in free agency. Something seems a little desperate about it...seems this deal could have been done a month ago but I could be wrong. I worry he can be the "man" on this dline after being one of the guys benefiting from others on his previous team. I will say this. I pray he balls out...he would be 28 when he is free agent again and could land another nice pay day. You got a great gift...now go out and earn it Jonathan.  It is exhilarating knowing going into this draft we can focus on lb, secondary, and RB in this draft...the very 3 positions of strength in this draft which is deep we have many early picks to go after those positions. This defense will be young and will have growing pains but I can't wait to see that youth and athleticism make some plays for us...maybe get us a short field from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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