Colts select Phillip Dorsett 29 [Mega Merge]

[The Peytonator]

who needs defense

 

Who needs defense right

 

 

2012 - 'Build The Monster'

2013 - 'Hoist It'

2014 - 'Decide'

2015 - 'Who Needs Defense?'

[Dustin]

I....

 

Can't wait until he's wreaking havoc in the Colts backfield and Dorsett returns two punts for 20 yards in the AFC championship game. 

[zibby43]

Dorsett is a great WR, a Hilton clone. The problem is WR was not a need. It wasn't why we loss to the Patriots. Grigson already had his mind made up, he wanted Dorsett from the start.

 

The Colts were beaten by the Pats due to several factors.  One of them was the fact that nobody was getting open.  At all.

 

T.Y. was doubled and Revis shut down Wayne/Moncrief. 

 

How can any defense account for Dorsett, Hilton, Moncrief, and Johnson?  I mean that is an absolute nightmare.

 

And we still have several picks left to address other needs. 

[TKnight24]

We might as well play Dorsett in the front 7 at this point

I'm stuck on the fact his reasoning was "We still have 8 picks left"

So you just waste one cause you have them?

Grigson is horrible

[jskinnz]

Yeah why bother to fix problems with best players available?? I'm surprised we didn't draft a backup QB with the 29th pick. Pats sit back with the LAST pick in the draft and get the #12 ranked player and a position we needed to fill. 

 

Who had Brown at #12?

[Colts_Fan12]

I'm actually shocked with how many accept and agree with this down right stupid pick

[Captain Americolt]

I love this pick. Some of you need to relax. Johnson is not going to play forever. This pick solidifies our WR corps for the future and was also BPA. There are still 8 picks left, relax. 

[Nobody]

Let this sink in for a moment.

Last year our worst unit was the entire front 7.

Since then- we lost our best front 7 player, and replaced him with a 30 year old backup from a bad team.

Ha

Ahah

Ha

[Dr. Guildo]

Don't tell me you agree with this pick

I just think the forum is a joke.

[OHColtfan]

still 8 picks left...let's see... a TE, PK, Punter, QB, another WR and finally in the 6, 7th round a dishrag Safety and maybe a Center... and we wonder why we can't beat he Pats. We are going to win the regular season again, score a 1,000 pts and then get our butt run over again.

 

Sick of the whole "Building the Monster" nonsense they keep trying to shove down our throat. We are not, not, not physical, still trying win with finesse. Same old, same old... same old results. Irsay is a fool if he thinks this will get us over the hump. (he's a fool anyway, but more so)

[jskinnz]

Kudos to him for having a pulse when Luck was drafted. 

 

That is way too simple.

[Nobody]

I'm actually shocked with how many accept and agree with this down right stupid pick

they are sheep

They'll chant #trustgrigs straight off a cliff if he wanted them to

[Coltsman1788]

This is why this forum is one of the worst in the entire league. The Colts deserve a better one.

No...we all deserve a better defense.  Tired of seeing us get plowed through year after year and do nothing substantive to improve ourselves.  Colts management knows nothing about defense...just offense.

[John Waylon]

I don't much care for BPA. If you don't have any huge holes, sure why not.

But we do. And there were some very solid options. Yet we take a player at a position I would say is really our second stronger unit on the team behind QB.

No one in this thread has called Dorsett a bum. No one has claimed, or even insinuated he can't play.

We just didn't need him.

Not even remotely.

[Dustin]

That is way too simple.

 

It's Polian all over again, except that Polian was actually a good drafter for the majority of his career. 

[Captain Americolt]

I'm stuck on the fact his reasoning was "We still have 8 picks left"

So you just waste one cause you have them?

Grigson is horrible

It's not a waste. Please stop childishly overreacting. 

[Malakai432]

I don't mind the pick but it kind of worries me that if TY wants the $ he deserves it will/may make him expendable. Kind of like a fall out plan, ect.

[BlueShoe]

they are sheep

They'll chant #trustgrigs straight off a cliff if he wanted them to

 

From NFL.com:

 

"Takes the top off the defense and throws it in the trash. Elite explosiveness. Gets to top speed quickly and is a seamless glider on crossing routes, leaving man-to-man defenses in his wake. Can work outside and from the slot. Elevates and attacks contested catches. Outstanding body control and can adjust to the ball in mid-air. Mind-boggling big-play production with half of his catches going for 25-plus yards in 2014. More than just a vertical-only receiver and has the blazing feet and stop-start to beat zone coverage for big plays."

 

"Dorsett is an ascending prospect who has averaged more than 25 yards per catch since 2012. He can challenge teams vertically inside or outside and he has home-run potential after the catch as a slot receiver. With smaller wide receivers like T.Y. Hilton and Antonio Brown proving that small and fast can win in the NFL, Dorsett should be coveted by more than one team and has the potential to turn into a star in the NFL."

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/phillip-dorsett?id=2552424

[austriancolt]

The Colts were beaten by the Pats due to several factors.  One of them was the fact that nobody was getting open.  At all.

 

 

right but we also lost to the pats, steelers and some other teams because our Defense couldn't stop the run. And to hope that some mid or late round draft picks can solve all problems and develop into pro browlers is just dumb. sorry grigson is gambling too much!

[coltsfanatic24]

The biggest factor was because we couldn't stop the run or sack Brady. Offense was great last year without Dorsett. Gregory or Brown should have been the pick.

 

The Colts were beaten by the Pats due to several factors.  One of them was the fact that nobody was getting open.  At all.

 

T.Y. was doubled and Revis shut down Wayne/Moncrief. 

 

How can any defense account for Dorsett, Hilton, Moncrief, and Johnson?  I mean that is an absolute nightmare.

 

And we still have several picks left to address other needs. 

[funktacious2]

I don't even get how this pick makes sense. Unless they're pretty much expecting to lose TY next year.

Why can't we have both? This makes no sense, Hilton's contract is running up, Dorsetts will just be beginning. I can understand the, "But we have other needs and good players were there" argument, but there is no reason we can't resign Hilton next year and have Dorsett on the field too. This is classic overreacting by everyone.

[SilentHill]

i forgot about Carter

Lol

And Vincent Brown

[Nobody]

From NFL.com:

"Takes the top off the defense and throws it in the trash. Elite explosiveness. Gets to top speed quickly and is a seamless glider on crossing routes, leaving man-to-man defenses in his wake. Can work outside and from the slot. Elevates and attacks contested catches. Outstanding body control and can adjust to the ball in mid-air. Mind-boggling big-play production with half of his catches going for 25-plus yards in 2014. More than just a vertical-only receiver and has the blazing feet and stop-start to beat zone coverage for big plays."

"Dorsett is an ascending prospect who has averaged more than 25 yards per catch since 2012. He can challenge teams vertically inside or outside and he has home-run potential after the catch as a slot receiver. With smaller wide receivers like T.Y. Hilton and Antonio Brown proving that small and fast can win in the NFL, Dorsett should be coveted by more than one team and has the potential to turn into a star in the NFL."

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/phillip-dorsett?id=2552424

TY Hilton

Andre Johnson

Donte Moncrief

Coby Fleener

Duron Carter

Dwayne Allen

Vincent Brown

Frank Gore

[Captain Americolt]

Colts FO thought he was BPA I assume. Based on every player available, defense included, they probably thought he wasn't gonna suck. We took Werner because of a need, not BPA, look how that turned out. 

 

I see no one here saying this kid sucks. 

[Nobody]

And Vincent Brown

HAHAHAHAH

forgot him too

This is awful

[Colts_Fan12]

they are sheep

They'll chant #trustgrigs straight off a cliff if he wanted them to

so true he has blown yet another 1st rounder sadly he won't be fired anytime soon I'm sure

[Nobody]

2012 - 'Build The Monster'

2013 - 'Hoist It'

2014 - 'Decide'

2015 - 'Who Needs Defense?'

I hate how funny this is

[mattceinicram]

Watching interviews of him, I like him as a person, and he's FAST. I don't hate the pick honestly. I just think we had more important needs to address.

[austriancolt]

Colts FO thought he was BPA I assume. Based on every player available, defense included, they probably thought he wasn't gonna suck. We took Werner because of a need, not BPA, look how that turned out. 

 

I see no one here saying this kid sucks. 

 

probably Werner was BPA for Grigson?

[John Waylon]

Yeah, we have various picks left, but being honest it's less likely to find quality starters as those picks go on. It's a dangerous roll of the dice.

Take a WR who we may be able to get 500 yards and 3 TD's, or a safety who can help our defense as a whole?

It just doesn't make sense unless we are phoning it in now and are not going to make an attempt to keep Hilton, or we're going to move on from Johnson after this season.

[BlueShoe]

TY Hilton

Andre Johnson

Donte Moncrief

Coby Fleener

Duron Carter

Dwayne Allen

Vincent Brown

Frank Gore

 

Just curious. If a 22 year old Marvin Harrison was on the board would you take him?

[HtownColt]

Least that is the end of the Cribbs era

[21isSuperman]

I still can't wrap my head around this.  Are they expecting to not re-sign Hilton next year?

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

The patriots are laughing at us right now. How can you draft a WR without seeing how Moncrief does this year? You go out and sign Carter and TY has another year and by that point we might need a WR but right now the patriots are the team to beat and we are continuing to make the same mistakes every year. We need to run the ball and stop the run, even a safety or a linebacker if not in the trenches.

[TKnight24]

It's not a waste. Please stop childishly overreacting.

Gregory

Collins

Brown

pick WR

Explain how it isn't a waste then get back to me

[Dr. Guildo]

No...we all deserve a better defense.  Tired of seeing us get plowed through year after year and do nothing substantive to improve ourselves.  Colts management knows nothing about defense...just offense.

You guys deserve a better forum without the ridiculous mods that are here... and the disgusting people/homophobes who are not even a part of the fans of this team, but of a certain other team. After that is fixed we can talk football. I knew you guys would all be talking about how bad Grigson is instead of discussing the pick. Terrible place. 

[Nobody]

Just curious. If a 22 year old Marvin Harrison was on the board would you take him?

Are you implying that Dorsett is a future HOF

Yeah I'd take any 22 year old future HOFer

[Captain Americolt]

probably Werner was BPA for Grigson?

Maybe, who knows. I feel like he wasn't, though. He filled a need for defense, but turns he he's (most likely) a bust/average player. BPA is always the best route to take so ensure you get a solid player regardless of need. 

[BlueCollarColts]

Let this sink in for a moment.

Last year our worst unit was the entire front 7.

Since then- we lost our best front 7 player, and replaced him with a 30 year old backup from a bad team.

Ha

Ahah

Ha

Who's our best front 7 player? Redding? Langford is better, you forgot to mention a back-up on one of the best front lines in the league... Also Trent Cole > Cory Redding, plus we get Mathis back, Newsome should improve, and Art Jones was probably our best front 7 player last season.

[csmopar]

Colts FO thought he was BPA I assume. Based on every player available, defense included, they probably thought he wasn't gonna suck. We took Werner because of a need, not BPA, look how that turned out.

I see no one here saying this kid sucks.

Good point