Colts contacted Raiders about Cooper

[Case]

 

[aaron11]

makes sense, we have a need at WR and they are shopping one, though it wont be easy coming to terms.

 

our picks could be in the top 5, so a first or second is probably too much for a guy due 14 mil or so next year if we want to keep him from free agency 

[coltfaninnewyork]

I would give them a 3rd rounder,will be a free agent after 2019.coopet has not been great since rookie year .

[MPStack]

10 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

makes sense, we have a need at WR and they are shopping one, though it wont be easy coming to terms.

 

our picks could be in the top 5, so a fist or second is probably too much for a guy due 14 mil or so next year if we want to keep him from free agency 

Yeah, I don't believe the Colts could even work a contract with him, because he's (Cooper)  still on his rookie contract. Therefore giving up a high draft pick makes things a bit complicated. Please, correct if I'm wrong about reworking a contract.

[NewEra]

Says cowboys?

[throwing BBZ]

2 minutes ago, MPStack said:

Yeah, I don't believe the Colts could even work a contract with him, because he's (Cooper)  still on his rookie contract. Therefore giving up a high draft pick makes things a bit complicated. Please, correct if I'm wrong about reworking a contract.

 

Haha. Oh yes you are wrong.
He isn't talking about reworkin a contract. That 5th year is set in stone.
He is saying, IMO, it would be hard to come to terms on compensation with a draft pick.

[MPStack]

4 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

Haha. Oh yes you are wrong.
He isn't talking about reworkin a contract. That 5th year is set in stone.
He is saying, IMO, it would be hard to come to terms on compensation with a draft pick.

Yeah, I assumed even if a trade was made, the Colts could not renegotiate any deal until after the 5th year option. I don't think, I'd want the Colts  to give up more than a 3rd being the case.

[The Fish]

Cowboys, Colts, it's kind of similar, I suppose.

[aaron11]

14 minutes ago, MPStack said:

Yeah, I don't believe the Colts could even work a contract with him, because he's (Cooper)  still on his rookie contract. Therefore giving up a high draft pick makes things a bit complicated. Please, correct if I'm wrong about reworking a contract.

you may be right, im not sure how an extension would work here

[adubb84]

3 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Cowboys, Colts, it's kind of similar, I suppose.

“The Cowboys are not alone; the Raiders have heard inquiries on Cooper from, among others, the Washington Redskins and Indianapolis Colts, according to a league source”

 

I thought the same thing. 

[MPStack]

4 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

you may be right, im not sure how an extension would work here

Lots a variables to consider. Giving a high draft pick for starters and he doesn't perform well. Secondly, he plays very well and you risk losing him or have to use franchise tag. Personally, I like to sign him, but much for Ballard to consider, if the Colts are interested. 

[Tombstone]

Not seeing this move taking place.  Ballard didn't sign any prime free agents before the season don't see anything taking place now!!!!  

[braveheartcolt]

3 minutes ago, Tombstone said:

Not seeing this move taking place.  Ballard didn't sign any prime free agents before the season don't see anything taking place now!!!!  

Yeah, but he assumed the 124 WR's he had could catch a football. Nope.

[csmopar]

4 minutes ago, Tombstone said:

Not seeing this move taking place.  Ballard didn't sign any prime free agents before the season don't see anything taking place now!!!!  

It's a trade, not a signing. That said, I don't see it either, especially if it'd involve a bidding war with Dallas

[John Waylon]

Hakeem Nicks, Darius Heyward-Bey, Kamar Aiken, and now Ryan Grant...

 

We’ve had enough underwhelming additions at WR. No more right now, thank you. 

[Nesjan3]

2 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Hakeem Nicks, Darius Heyward-Bey, Kamar Aiken, and now Ryan Grant...

 

We’ve had enough underwhelming additions at WR. No more right now, thank you. 

lol don't forget Andre Johnson. I understand your pain but Cooper is a way better wr than any of those guys you mentioned. It makes a lot of sense but i don't see Ballard making a move like that.

[IinD]

I don't think anyone would lose their mind if we went out and got him, we just shouldn't be giving up anything high for him just in case he becomes a rental and bails after next year.

[Tombstone]

18 minutes ago, braveheartcolt said:

Yeah, but he assumed the 124 WR's he had could catch a football. Nope.

Point well taken, but Colts are 1-5 now.  It would be nice if he have me eating crow on this one

[rockywoj]

I would not give up any picks beyond a single 2nd rounder. A 2nd rounder would be conditional upon signing him to a 3 year extension, as the minimal acceptable term length. 

[Tombstone]

For me it's time to bring in a WR that is capable to TY.  Some on here even say he is not a number type WR.  I beg to differ on that but, teams game plan to slow him down and it's like well with your number  2 WR show me what you got type deal.  Peyton had like 2 number one's if that make sense.  Time for Luck to have the same deal.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Says cowboys?

 

“The Cowboys are not alone; the Raiders have heard inquiries on Cooper from, among others, the Washington Redskins and Indianapolis Colts, according to a league source.

 

But of all the teams that need wide receivers, the most intriguing is Dallas, and it would not be the first time that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has dealt for a receiver before the league's trade deadline.”

[richard pallo]

Easily worth one of our 2nd. rounders.  Already a two time pro bowler at age 24.  Now playing for a QB who is regressing in Oakland.  With Luck look out!  Not surprised to see we are talking to Oakland.  I think Ballard is going to make at least one trade by the deadline and I think a trade for Cooper has a great chance of happening.

[shasta519]

Cowboys make a ton of sense. That seems to be the one glaring weakness on their time right now. They have a legit shot at winning that division with Cooper.

[Case]

 

[shasta519]

6 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Easily worth one of our 2nd. rounders.  Already a two time pro bowler at age 24.  Now playing for a QB who is regressing in Oakland.  With Luck look out!  Not surprised to see we are talking to Oakland.  I think Ballard is going to make at least one trade by the deadline and I think a trade for Cooper has a great chance of happening.

 

I like the optimism...and I would be all for rolling the dice here. You get good young talent when it becomes available...not when it's convenient. (And after that Cooper trade is done...I would get AZ on the phone and snap Reddick for a 5th round pick.)

 

But I don't see it happening unfortunately. Not sure if Ballard is ready to punt on Grant yet...and I don't think Ballard is about to turn over one of his 2nd round picks.

 

[shasta519]

4 minutes ago, MightyLucks said:

 

 

So two trades instead of one? 

 

I do wonder what would cause this. Perhaps a more wide-open competition for divisions...or multiple teams rebuilding?

[shasta519]

1 hour ago, MPStack said:

Yeah, I don't believe the Colts could even work a contract with him, because he's (Cooper)  still on his rookie contract. Therefore giving up a high draft pick makes things a bit complicated. Please, correct if I'm wrong about reworking a contract.

 

I am pretty sure they could just negotiate an extension with him now that he's accrued three years.

[Defjamz26]

We have 2 2nd rounders so I could part with a 3rd or 4th for him. I’d also do Mack and a 4th for Cooper.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

8 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

We have 2 2nd rounders so I could part with a 3rd or 4th for him. I’d also do Mack and a 4th for Cooper.

 

4th & Wilkins maybe, not sure why we’d want to move Mack.

[NewEra]

30 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

“The Cowboys are not alone; the Raiders have heard inquiries on Cooper from, among others, the Washington Redskins and Indianapolis Colts, according to a league source.

 

But of all the teams that need wide receivers, the most intriguing is Dallas, and it would not be the first time that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has dealt for a receiver before the league's trade deadline.”

Thank you, was tonlazt to hit link lol

[richard pallo]

15 minutes ago, shastamasta said:

 

I like the optimism...and I would be all for rolling the dice here. You get good young talent when it becomes available...not when it's convenient. (And after that Cooper trade is done...I would get AZ on the phone and snap Reddick for a 5th round pick.)

 

But I don't see it happening unfortunately. Not sure if Ballard is ready to punt on Grant yet...and I don't think Ballard is about to turn over one of his 2nd round picks.

 

I like the idea of getting Reddick for a 5th. as well.  He has the potential to be a Jerry Hughes for us but in reverse.  We win this time. 

[richard pallo]

Now that the Titans have lost our division is tightening up even more.  Ballard should see that as an opportunity to make a move and get into the playoffs.  I think another difference maker on offense could get it done.  And he is young enough to help us for years to come. 

[Defjamz26]

17 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

4th & Wilkins maybe, not sure why we’d want to move Mack.

I have nothing against Mack. But  the Raiders need RB help and he’s shown the most promise. They wouldn’t want Wilkins

[jvan1973]

Has Cooper passed concussion protocol yet?

[Jdubu]

I would trade them a conditional 4th round (understanding it’s a mid round at best pick right now. I’d also add in either grant or even Fountain and then make it a conditional 3rd round assuming we hit certain marks either with the team or/and his production. He has talent no doubt but he hasn’t shown it over the past 2 years and he will come with a cap hit for next year assuming that 5th year is picked up. More gamble for the team taking him than the Raiders imo, they’ve already decided he isn’t in their plans. 

[Luck 4 president]

They won’t trade him for less than a 3rd. If they hold on to him and he leaves in Free agency then they’ll get a 3rd round comp pick so there’s no reason trading him for less than that. I’d do a 3rd plus a 5th for him 

[Mr.NotSoCreative]

Crazy butt Gruden: give us all of your players over the age of 32 but less than 40.

Colts: we dont have any

CaG: move along then

[Mr.Debonair]

4 hours ago, John Waylon said:

Hakeem Nicks, Darius Heyward-Bey, Kamar Aiken, and now Ryan Grant...

 

We’ve had enough underwhelming additions at WR. No more right now, thank you. 

None of them are in the stratosphere of Cooper

[John Waylon]

Just now, Mr.Debonair said:

None of them are in the stratosphere of Cooper

 

Cooper can’t even see the stratosphere he’s so far below it right now. 

[Mr.Debonair]

Just now, John Waylon said:

 

Cooper can’t even see the stratosphere he’s so far below it right now. 

I’m guessing that’s a concussion joke, which he may already be cleared from. Either way, when he is healthy he is one of the better WRs in the league