Luck Seeking Treatment for Shoulder in Europe

[Mr. Irrelevant]

1 hour ago, John Waylon said:

According to both Mike Wells and Mort Andrew is over in Europe seeking treatment on his shoulder. 

 

Seems pretty out of the ordinary to me...

 

(I'm on mobile so I can't post sources, sorry.)

 

Excellent. Luck needs to try something out of the ordinary now, not in April. 

 

The medical system in Germany is much more open to alternative ways to cure things than here in Denmark, which is totally Old School, if I should put it nicely. 

 

Could be just what the doctor ordered! 

[twfish]

No one mentioned manning going to Japan for neck surgery. Turned out well for him I guess you could say 

[WoolMagnet]

If i'm not mistaken, peyton went to Europe to address his neck issue too. If i were Andrew, i would want to consider ALL options.  

I don't see this changing anything from where we were a week ago.

if people hang on every word and story about Andrew in the next 6 months, they will give themselves an ulcer. And if i'm Andrew, i really dont want the details out there anyway.  That is his right. It stinks for us, but its his health, his livelihood, his "business."

[Steamboat_Shaun]

1 hour ago, IinD said:

This just keeps getting better.

 

I'm finally on the panic side of the argument now. 

 

Saw this yesterday & did a bit of a double-take. Apparently this is at the Lids shop at the airport.

 

[The Fish]

6 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Saw this yesterday & did a bit of a double-take. Apparently this is at the Lids shop at the airport.

 

Sigh..

 

[Roger]

2 hours ago, B~Town said:

Some stem cells and HGH gonna get that shoulder 100% 

It's got to be something like that.  They wouldn't seem to have experience in throwing arm/shoulder injuries. No baseball or football.

 

I wonder if the NFL permits the use of banned substances in the treatment of an injury.

[shasta519]

Stem cell treatment can do amazing things. Just look at Manning.

 

But if this doesn't work, it's probably time to worry.

 

[Luck is Good]

I don’t think this guy will be 100% healthy ever again. I hate to say that but it just doesn’t seem possible

[NewColtsFan]

3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I wouldn't worry about this too much, I really wouldn't. He has until next September to get healthy and he is just seeking different options.

 

Yes, Luck may have until September to get better,  but the team will likely want an answer from him by mid-April.

 

The Colts will have to decide if Luck stands a good chance of playing at a high level in 2018 or not.

 

Because if the answer looks like "no" then the team has to strongly consider drafting a QB.     

 

Luck might spend all of 2018 rehabbing,  Brissett would be the starter and the drafted QB would be the backup who hopefully would either never play, or rarely play.

 

So big decisions have to be made likely by April.

 

[IinD]

42 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Saw this yesterday & did a bit of a double-take. Apparently this is at the Lids shop at the airport.

 

Definitely tough times right now for Colts fans because of all of the unknowns.

 

He's either damaged goods or trade bait according to the media.

[Roger]

3 minutes ago, IinD said:

Definitely tough times right now for Colts fans because of all of the unknowns.

 

He's either damaged goods or trade bait according to the media.

Let's hope the 50% off sale applies to the jerseys only and is not extended to the player.

[2006Coltsbestever]

22 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Yes, Luck may have until September to get better,  but the team will likely want an answer from him by mid-April.

 

The Colts will have to decide if Luck stands a good chance of playing at a high level in 2018 or not.

 

Because if the answer looks like "no" then the team has to strongly consider drafting a QB.     

 

Luck might soend pend all if 2018 rehabbing,  Brissett would be the starter and the drafted QB would be the backup who hopefully would either never play, or rarely play.

 

So big decisions have to be made likely by April.

 

I am still not overly worried about this. Of course a little worried, who wouldn't be because nobody really knows what is going to happen. More than likely we wont find out a lot until April.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

2 minutes ago, Roger said:

Let's hope the 50% off sale applies to the jerseys only and is not extended to the player.

 

I could see them doing a fire sale on Luck jerseys because they didn’t sell many since he hasn’t played this year. But I guarantee you Rodgers jerseys aren’t 50% off in Wisconsin right now.

[BlueShoe]

2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I wouldn't worry about this too much, I really wouldn't. He has until next September to get healthy and he is just seeking different options.

 

CORRECT!

 

Unfortunately, people have way too much time on their hands to think about this, and it's a long way to July 2018.

[#12.]

11 minutes ago, IinD said:

Definitely tough times right now for Colts fans because of all of the unknowns.

 

He's either damaged goods or trade bait according to the media.

 

Can't imagine a scenario where he's traded.  To be traded, he would have to be healthy, and if he's healthy, they're not trading him.  

[oldunclemark]

3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

This doesn't surprise me. Kobe Bryant went to Germany to get treatment's for his knees. Some athlete's do this.

It means he doesn't know what's still wrong (nobody locally does) and he wants a lot of opinions.

I'm glad to see this. This is down time. He's shut down. But he's doing everything possible to figure it out.

 

He may need a second surgery and it may be coming soon

[oldunclemark]

17 minutes ago, IinD said:

Definitely tough times right now for Colts fans because of all of the unknowns.

 

He's either damaged goods or trade bait according to the media.

Don't listen to the media. They don't know either...

[bananabucket]

The doom and gloomers are looking better every day 

[IinD]

8 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Don't listen to the media. They don't know either...

Oh I don't. It's just that any article that pops up about the Colts is doom lately.

 

I'll be a fan long past Andrew so in reality it doesn't matter in a way, but you get my point. We're getting bashed left and right. We've gone from a darling org to an inept team in terms of our 'standing' amongst other nfl fans and media.

[2006Coltsbestever]

11 minutes ago, bananabucket said:

The doom and gloomers are looking better every day 

Not really. Andrew is just exploring every option to get back to 100%. Like I posted earlier, it's not uncommon for Star athlete's to get treatment outside of the US. Peyton and Kobe Bryant both have done it.

[JCPatriot]

3 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Yes on the stem cells, but he wouldn’t need to go to Europe for HGH.

 

Yeah, just have it mailed to Peyton's wife.  (Kidding, kidding)

 

1 hour ago, Roger said:

I wonder if the NFL permits the use of banned substances in the treatment of an injury.

 

No, that was the whole controversy with Manning.  Hence the joke above.

[OLD FAN MAN]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Yeah.....    at this point, there is no way to spin ths positively....

 

He's not getting the results he wants/needs here in America,  so he has to go to Europe hoping to find what he's looking for.

 

We can't rule out that he will find the solution for the shoulder.     Plenty of athletes have gone to Europe and found alternative treatment there......     but all we can do is hope.... and wait.....

 

Sucks for Andrew.     Sucks for the Colts.     Sucks for us....

 

We may have to consider drafting a Quarterback in April.....

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21377935/indianapolis-colts-qb-andrew-luck-europe-seeking-treatment-right-shoulder

 

 

hope there is one in the draft as good as watson

[OLD FAN MAN]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Yes, Luck may have until September to get better,  but the team will likely want an answer from him by mid-April.

 

The Colts will have to decide if Luck stands a good chance of playing at a high level in 2018 or not.

 

Because if the answer looks like "no" then the team has to strongly consider drafting a QB.     

 

Luck might spend all of 2018 rehabbing,  Brissett would be the starter and the drafted QB would be the backup who hopefully would either never play, or rarely play.

 

So big decisions have to be made likely by April.

 

brissett with more coaching and fixing a few things may be good enough if we can put a team around him

[Stephen]

3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have always labeled Brissett just a Great backup and maybe he could start for 3 or 4 bad teams but he may be better than that actually. I want to see how he plays in these last 7 games. The Steelers game will be a great measuring stick for him because they usually blow us out.

Fix the oline and draft brissett two other wrs that can catch and run routes and hed do better

Edited November 11, 2017 by Stephen

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Stephen said:

Fix the oline and draft brissett two other wrs that can catch and rolun routes and hed do better

Probably so, I just haven't seen enough of him yet for me to say he can be a Good 16 game starter.

[Stephen]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Probably so, I just haven't seen enough of him yet for me to say he can be a Good 16 game starter.

Ok think he can but oline must be fixed. His decision making will improve. Just need wrs other than hilton that can be a force. For example if Brissett had hopkins and fuller to throw to he probably put up better numbers.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Ok think he can but oline must be fixed. His decision making will improve. Just need wrs other than hilton that can be a force. For example if Brissett had hopkins and fuller to throw to he probably put up better numbers.

I like Brissett, he's calm and cool. He is a good kid as well and was under Belichick/Brady for a while. He is a lot better than Tolzien but that isn't saying much. I honestly think he's better than any QB that the Broncos have as well, he is better than Brock IMO. Brissett could be a full-time starter for teams like the 49ers, Jets, Browns as well IMO. I just need to see more of him before I can really praise him. 

[indyagent17]

Well the FDA is so difficult here on new procedures and medications so going to Europe is an option to have more procedures available to him including stem cell therapy which is been used to help repair shoulder injuries

[King Colt]

People from all countries come to America to attend medicals schools and to seek medical help from our doctors yet Luck has to go abroad to find someone to fix his shoulder? I would love to know why this is necessary. I was immediately suspicious of the doctors/procedure when he experienced pain this season and this just adds fuel to the fire. If he has to do this it cannot be viewed as a positive.

[Roger]

7 minutes ago, King Colt said:

People from all countries come to America to attend medicals schools and to seek medical help from our doctors yet Luck has to go abroad to find someone to fix his shoulder? I would love to know why this is necessary. I was immediately suspicious of the doctors/procedure when he experienced pain this season and this just adds fuel to the fire. If he has to do this it cannot be viewed as a positive.

Good point.  I think he must be following some unconventional treatment.  It would be shocking if he were looking at surgery in europe.  You don't get his type injury playing soccer or polo.

[a06cc]

Kobe Bryant career was pretty much over after the knee injury. He kept getting hurt. That’s not a great comparison. The procedure is also not cleared by the FDA here in the US. This is a bit concerning, however we have to be optimistic. I hope he can comeback. Your body doesn’t heal as fast after you hit 27. 

[kornstar]

Yes what a terrible idea to get as many opinions as you can on a 140 million dollar player 

[Dark Superman]

I just hope #12 can come back next season and play at the level he was during the first three years in the league.

 

[Dark Superman]

Can't wait to see the moves CB makes to help bolster this O-Line. 

[ColtsBlueFL]

Well, it is quite evident Luck is not pleased with the consultations/opinions he has received from his/many U.S. based physicians, so he is going overseas.  I'm not really against that, but I wonder why he hasn't / won't let someone  (like Dr. Andrews) look inside his shoulder with an arthroscope first... to see what is really up?  He most certainly isn't going over to Europe to have a foreign surgeon open him up and take a look, so it must be for stem cell and/or platelet rich plasma treatments he seeks.  What if this doesn't work? I'm concerned that the lost 2017 will eat into 2018 now as well...

 

{big sigh}

[HectorRoberts]

My dad had a similar procedure luck and it took 3 surgeries and 2 years to get his shoulder back to 90%

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, HectorRoberts said:

My dad had a similar procedure luck and it took 3 surgeries and 2 years to get his shoulder back to 90%

I don't mean to down play your fathers surgeries but a couple of factors more than likely separate him from Luck.

Was your Dad a NFL ready athlete?  Age? Did you Dad have his surgeries from some of the best specialist in the US?

Those are all factors in comparing the difference.

The only reason I bring these comparisons up is I had the same problems as did Peyton Manning. He had the surgery and went on to play three more years in the NFL. I had the surgery and it left be disabled because of those factors I mentioned.

No disrespect intended.

[HectorRoberts]

3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I don't mean to down play your fathers surgeries but a couple of factors more than likely separate him from Luck.

Was your Dad a NFL ready athlete?  Age? Did you Dad have his surgeries from some of the best specialist in the US?

Those are all factors in comparing the difference.

The only reason I bring these comparisons up is I had the same problems as did Peyton Manning. He had the surgery and went on to play three more years in the NFL. I had the surgery and it left be disabled because of those factors I mentioned.

No disrespect intended.

Of course he wasn't.  all I was saying is that it's a big time injury and there is no telling if he is going to be 100% any time soon. so maybe the Europe trip is just him trying to avoid a second sugary with an alternative option

[HorseFly]

8 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I wouldn't worry about this too much, I really wouldn't. He has until next September to get healthy and he is just seeking different options.

We said that LAST year at this time.

[2006Coltsbestever]

18 minutes ago, HorseFly said:

We said that LAST year at this time.

Huge difference is he has a whole other year to recover. His injury in the 1st place tends take anywhere from 9-12 months to heal. A lot of people were being optimistic and hoping 9 months. I see Luck going to Europe as a great thing because he is exploring every option and is on it early. Peyton and Kobe both went out of the country for treatment and it worked wonders. My worry scale right now is only at a 5 out of 10, a little worried but not much.