How do you like our defense as of now?

[BlueCollarColts]

Lets assume we go into the season with our defense as it stands now.

 

 

 

Ricky Jean Francois/Cory Redding, Josh Chapman, and Arthur Jones, OLB being Robert Mathis and Erik Walden/Bjoern Werner, ILB being D'Qwell Jackson and Jerrell Freeman, with our secondary being Greg Toler, LaRon Landry, Delano Howell, and Vontae Davis (feels so good having him back  :clap: )

 

How would you feel about this? Obviously everyone would probably like to see a new safety in place of Howell, which likely will happen in free agency or in the draft. 

[IndyScribe]

I like it. Yep, we do need a new safety. Since Byrd signed with the Saints, Clemons is pretty much the only good S option left.

[GoColts8818]

Still need some help at NT and clearly another starting safety.  Jackson and Jones are nice pick ups but till we get a big monster NT we are never going to be very good at stopping the run out of the 3/4.

[Superman]

Need a safety and another pass rusher. I think we'll get a pass rusher in the draft, but I'm not in love with the safety class.

[mattceinicram]

I like it a lot!  I think we will be much improved over last year.  I say we do need a safety, and maybe more depth in the secondary in general.  Toler and Landry are injury prone, so we need some decent backups.

[GoColts8818]

I like it. Yep, we do need a new safety. Since Byrd signed with the Saints, Clemons is pretty much the only good S option left.

I think we might be going safety in the draft. 

[Day at the Hilton]

I like it and I like Howell, I don't mind if he starts.

[lennymoore24]

I think we need another pass rusher.  Maybe Ware as a situational pass rusher.  Hopefully Werner comes on.  But that killed us last year.  Mathis was the only pass rush we had, which makes the secondary look bad.

[dgambill]

Its pretty good. Toler needs to stay healthy but our corners have proven when healthy they are very good. FS is really our biggest concern....I don't think we can stand pat with Howell. I also think a NT will be necessary to. So to me I'm looking at two more signings on defense and two on offense...wr and center. Then draft bpa with a strong look at continuing to build our trenches and secondary.

[Slick_Rick]

Need a safety and another pass rusher. I think we'll get a pass rusher in the draft, but I'm not in love with the safety class.

Agreed. Delano is good in a pinch, but I'm not sure I want him for 16+ games

[Nobody]

Need a safety and another pass rusher. I think we'll get a pass rusher in the draft, but I'm not in love with the safety class.

This.

[ColtsFan110314]

Defense is looking way better. Would've liked to keep Bethea though. Right now only guys left at S looks like Clemens, Nate Allen, Major Wright, Charles Woodson, and Ryan Clark. Thought we could've had some long term success and mesh with Landry, Bethea, Toler, and Davis. Seems like we've always been patch fixing the secondary. Other than that it looks solid. Especially with Shepphard, McNary, and Kavell Conner pitching in with the linebacker core and hopefully Adongo continues to improve. Could be a beast in the making . Would like to see us grab a NT or two in the draft, always need depth there with the big dudes lol.

 

DE: Corey Redding/Ricky Jean Francois

NT: Josh Chapman

DE: Arthur Jones

OLB: Robert Mathis
ILB: D'Qwell Jackson
ILB: Jerrell Freeman
OLB: Bjoern Werner/Erik Walden

CB: Greg Toler

SS: LaRon Landry

FS: ?????

CB: Vontae Davis

[cbear]

The main thing is that it's better than last year's.  As long as we keep improving every year, we'll be fine.

[#BringBobBack]

we need a little bit more talent and i think we've got a pretty good unit overall being more of a defense fan a close to top 10 defense would be amazing for a change

[Superman]

I'm still open to the idea of moving Vaughn to FS.

[Gavin]

Sign Dion Bailey in the bottom of the 3rd or Kenny Ladler in a trade down to the 4th

 

 

Sign Marcus Smith at the bottom of the 2nd

 

 

and ya got your Safety of the future and another pass rusher

[BlueCollarColts]

I'm still open to the idea of moving Vaughn to FS.

Honestly that could work, he has speed, and he lacks good ball skills.... which is why most safeties play safety over corner

[adamthyst]

It looks good on paper but we'll see what it will do. I think we need D-Line help still and Safety is a need, it wouldn't hurt to have better corners too.

[BlueCollarColts]

It looks good on paper but we'll see what it will do. I think we need D-Line help still and Safety is a need, it wouldn't hurt to have better corners too.

Well Butler is a very good slot corner, and Davis is one of the premier corners in the league, and Toler was hurt most of the year, so hopefully he can stay healthy 

[weslo1812]

I'm pretty happy so far. Definatle helped ouselves on defense I feel. Still have some holes to fill but I think with the remaining time in free agency and the draft well address those areas. I think the big part of our free agency is over though, I think today was the big day for us most likely.I'm expect maybe 2 more mid level type signings like a C and a FS maybe and that's it. Then I'm expecting it to be pretty quite for us.

[MrNLM]

I hope a bolstered pass rush and a new face at FS will help keep Toler healthy with less wear as I expect the play to be whistled dead or thrown under in a hurry.

[Poster X]

It is taking shape... I just wonder how they fill the safety void now

that Bethea is gone. I'm thinking a draft pick will be the way to go because there is not a lot of meat left in free agency safetywise.

[Luck_Is_Skilled]

We cannot, will not or should not ever under any circumstance go into an NFL season with Delano Howell as our starting free safety........period. That's as good of an idea as going into a season with Mike McGlynn and Samson Satele as starting O linemen.

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

How bout we try darius Butler at fs

[BleedBlu8792]

Lets assume we go into the season with our defense as it stands now.

 

 

 

Ricky Jean Francois/Cory Redding, Josh Chapman, and Arthur Jones, OLB being Robert Mathis and Erik Walden/Bjoern Werner, ILB being D'Qwell Jackson and Jerrell Freeman, with our secondary being Greg Toler, LaRon Landry, Delano Howell, and Vontae Davis (feels so good having him back  :clap: )

 

How would you feel about this? Obviously everyone would probably like to see a new safety in place of Howell, which likely will happen in free agency or in the draft. 

 

Still need some help at NT and clearly another starting safety.  Jackson and Jones are nice pick ups but till we get a big monster NT we are never going to be very good at stopping the run out of the 3/4.

 

 

I think they are probably going to look at Montori playing NT behind Chapman and backing up the DE's as well. I wouldn't mind another NT, but Hughes looked pretty good when he got his snaps at NT.

[Hoosiernsavga]

We cannot, will not or should not ever under any circumstance go into an NFL season with Delano Howell as our starting free safety........period. That's as good of an idea as going into a season with Mike McGlynn and Samson Satele as starting O linemen.

I really like Howell but I have to agree. If we are planning on starting Howell at FS and Toler at CB our secondary will be our weakest link even with Davis back

[NewColtsFan]

Is our defense really that much better today than it was yesterday?

 

We've added Jones and Jackson....   fine.

 

And we've lost Bethea with no obvious replacement of equal value out there.

 

I'd say we're slightly better...   but, as Superman noted,  we still need another pass rusher (Werner?)   We still need a starting FS... and we need better depth everywhere.....

 

So...  maybe we're slightly better today...   with the promise of getting better over the next two months....

 

OK....

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Is our defense really that much better today than it was yesterday?

 

We've added Jones and Jackson....   fine.

 

And we've lost Bethea with no obvious replacement of equal value out there.

 

I'd say we're slightly better...   but, as Superman noted,  we still need another pass rusher (Werner?)   We still need a starting FS... and we need better depth everywhere.....

 

So...  maybe we're slightly better today...   with the promise of getting better over the next two months....

 

OK....

Bethea is terrible as our FS/SS. 0 range anymore, atm all he can do is play up on the line and get some run support going on. 

[NewColtsFan]

Bethea is terrible as our FS/SS. 0 range anymore, atm all he can do is play up on the line and get some run support going on. 

 

Perhaps....   lots of people here agree with you.

 

But a franchise that has a pretty good reputation for talent evaluation just gave him a 4-year deal for 23 Mill.   Not sure on the guaranteed,  but I'd guess a decent amount.    So,  San Francisco clearly thinks Bethea has something left in the tank....

 

Maybe he's not a good fit for our defense....   but the 49ers think he'll fit theirs pretty well.........

[Psyren]

I like our defense. I don't think it's that great though.

Art Jones will definitely help as he's a very very good run stuffer.

DQ is a tackling machine, but isn't best suited for a 34 and isn't known as a run stuffer.

Are we better than last year? Yes. By how much? Right now, I don't think it's that significant

[chrisfarley]

Bottom line: we need Demarcus Ware.  Sign him and we get better on defense by about 7 to 10 percent.

[SteelDragon]

I'm not that enamored with it YET.  We added Arthur-Jones and Jackson, lost Bethea.  This defense in it's current assemblage, is not that much different than the one that took the field against New England, Kansas City, Arizona, St Louis, etc.  We need upgrades over Toler(unless he can stay healthy), and Chapman.  We also need another pass rusher and a starting safety. We added two, need four my players, by my count, from FA and the draft,

[lollygagger8]

I'm still open to the idea of moving Vaughn to FS.

[PeterBowman]

the front 7 on paper is improved and has great depth...the secondary on paper still has some holes and needed depth. The D on paper as a whole is trending in the right direction for sure

[wig]

Is our defense really that much better today than it was yesterday?

 

We've added Jones and Jackson....   fine.

 

And we've lost Bethea with no obvious replacement of equal value out there.

 

I'd say we're slightly better...   but, as Superman noted,  we still need another pass rusher (Werner?)   We still need a starting FS... and we need better depth everywhere.....

 

So...  maybe we're slightly better today...   with the promise of getting better over the next two months....

 

OK....

 

 

Big time upgrade in the front 7, and it won't be hard to replace Bethea since he isn't a FS.  I like Antoine, but he simply didn't fit.

[jskinnz]

To me the D still lacks playmakers.  Aside from Mathis, who are the real disruptive forces?  I don't see them as of now.  Werner needs to be what they expect of him as does Arthur Jones.

[Beauregarde]

Lets assume we go into the season with our defense as it stands now.

 

 

 

Ricky Jean Francois/Cory Redding, Josh Chapman, and Arthur Jones, OLB being Robert Mathis and Erik Walden/Bjoern Werner, ILB being D'Qwell Jackson and Jerrell Freeman, with our secondary being Greg Toler, LaRon Landry, Delano Howell, and Vontae Davis (feels so good having him back  :clap: )

 

How would you feel about this? Obviously everyone would probably like to see a new safety in place of Howell, which likely will happen in free agency or in the draft. 

Slightly better. I do not think Jackson is an enormous improvement but Arthur Jones is. When you add in having no replacement at safety, I think it is about even or perhaps a little better than last year.

[theanarchist]

Lets assume we go into the season with our defense as it stands now.

 

 

 

Ricky Jean Francois/Cory Redding, Josh Chapman, and Arthur Jones, OLB being Robert Mathis and Erik Walden/Bjoern Werner, ILB being D'Qwell Jackson and Jerrell Freeman, with our secondary being Greg Toler, LaRon Landry, Delano Howell, and Vontae Davis (feels so good having him back  :clap: )

 

How would you feel about this? Obviously everyone would probably like to see a new safety in place of Howell, which likely will happen in free agency or in the draft. 

Not bad. I like it a lot better now that we have kept Davis. Personally I liked Howell. But we only got to see a little bit of him. I'm thinking we draft a safety to compete with Howell for the starting spot.

[Beauregarde]

Is our defense really that much better today than it was yesterday?

 

We've added Jones and Jackson....   fine.

 

And we've lost Bethea with no obvious replacement of equal value out there.

 

I'd say we're slightly better...   but, as Superman noted,  we still need another pass rusher (Werner?)   We still need a starting FS... and we need better depth everywhere.....

 

So...  maybe we're slightly better today...   with the promise of getting better over the next two months....

 

OK....

If you are waiting on Werner, be prepared to wait a long, long time.

[theanarchist]

I'm not that enamored with it YET.  We added Arthur-Jones and Jackson, lost Bethea.  This defense in it's current assemblage, is not that much different than the one that took the field against New England, Kansas City, Arizona, St Louis, etc.  We need upgrades over Toler(unless he can stay healthy), and Chapman.  We also need another pass rusher and a starting safety. We added two, need four my players, by my count, from FA and the draft,

Hopefully in year 2 Werner is that pass rusher you speak of