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  1. Interesting perspective. I would say this. It is easy to play QB when you have a dominant offensive line and running attack. Look over the years at guys like David Garrard on the Jaquars. Or even back to Trent Dilfer winning Super Bowl with Ravens. I think any mid level QB would have have had Colts at 5-2 at that point. I don't think Brissett was good and then he got bad. I think he was always below average. So I think it would be a mistake to roll Brissett out there again. I would prefer sign Rivers, trade Brissett, draft Fromm/Gordon. And give Kelly a real shot. Cream will rise to top.
  2. Nice story. But to me, comparing Love to Mahomes is like comparing Jake Fromm to Kurt Warner because they are similar size. Mahomes balled it out in big games. Love faded. Mahomes shows accuracy from all angles. Love is inaccurate. If the Colts draft Love, I will be sorely disappointed and feel strongly it will set the franchise back 3-4 year and probably be the end of Ballard/Reich
  3. 1) Burrow 2) Tua 3) Herbert 4) Fromm 5) Gordon 6) Eason 7) Love
  4. As expected, I felt Gordon outplayed Love. I think he is a better prospect. I hope Colts pick a WR or DT at #1 and then get Gordon later in draft. Maybe at a WR at 34 and Gordon at 45 since I think he will move up on draft boards after Pro Day and combine.
  5. Here's the thing about playing QB. You have a few seconds before the snap to read the defensive and put your offense in the best position possible. Ball snapped, you basically have to process progressions, protection, and coverage in 3 seconds. Then you have to delivery the ball accurately to the right read. There is only a handful of people who can do that consistently. If you are born with that ability, you can be coached on how to make it better. But you cannot coach someone who doesn't already have it. So I get so frustrated that year after year QBs come into the NFL and you hear they have everything physically needed. They just need coaching. But most of the time, they are missing that ability to process what I described above. How many times do you read about a physically gifted player who is smart and eager to learn but never amounts to anything? If it was just coaching, someone like that would always succeed. My point is, you have to look how a QB processes things instead of whether they have a huge arm or can run a 4.5. So when I hear about guys like Love or Eason and hear they have all the ability but just need the right coach, I shake my head because I don't think either will be that successful in the NFL. Here's the thing about playing QB. You have a few seconds before the snap to read the defensive and put your offense in the best position possible. Ball snapped, you basically have to process progressions, protection, and coverage in 3 seconds. Then you have to delivery the ball accurately to the right read. There is only a handful of people who can do that consistently. If you are born with that ability, you can be coached on how to make it better. But you cannot coach someone who doesn't already have it. So I get so frustrated that year after year QBs come into the NFL and you hear they have everything physically needed. They just need coaching. But most of the time, they are missing that ability to process what I described above. How many times do you read about a physically gifted player who is smart and eager to learn but never amounts to anything? If it was just coaching, someone like that would always succeed. My point is, you have to look how a QB processes things instead of whether they have a huge arm or can run a 4.5. So when I hear about guys like Love or Eason and hear they have all the ability but just need the right coach, I shake my head because I don't think either will be that successful in the NFL.
  6. It is funny how this "game manager" tag gets stuck on Fromm. Last year Fromm threw 30 TDs, Love had 32. Yet, Love is the playmaker and Fromm a game manager. So this year Love throws 20 TDs and it is blamed on the changes in coaching and players around him. Fromm through less TDs this year because they had a run orientated team. But Fromm is a game manager. Or he has great talent around him. Couldn't that argument be made for Burrow? I like your points here. I like Fromm because he is decisive and accurate and go throw progressions well. As much as people like to say the NFL is changing you need QBs to make plays out of the pocket, if you look at the final 4 QBs, Mahomes in the only one I would say would do that. The players who succeed are ultimately the ones who make plays from the pocket. It always has been that way and always will be that way. Because it ultimately is about timing. Guys like Watson make a few nice plays a game but are inconsistent. I would rather have someone who is efficient and consistenly makes the right throws.
  7. I agree with you. I think Fromm fits the offense the best. I like Fromm and Gordon.
  8. This is exactly what I expect from him in the NFL. Again, I am not sure why people want the Colts to get this guy.
  9. I respectfully disagree with you. I coach football. I work specifically with QBs and evaluate QBs. In my opinion, Gordon is a better prospect than Love. He has better mechanics, accuracy, and progresses through reads better. Has nothing do with stats. It is about studying passing situations, ball placement, and decision making. I would argue the opposite. There seems to be this big Jordan Love push on here because he statistically had a good season last year and people think he is physically similar to Patrick Mahomes. Is that a good way to evaluate QBs? I would not take a QB at 13 if Burrow and Tua are gone. I don't think there is another QB worth that pick. However, in the second tier, would take a flyer on Gordon over Love. I think Love will be a mediocre NFL QB. A more mobile Jameis Winston. Gordon might be another Aaron Rodgers. Or he might be another mediocre backup. That is the risk in picking QBs who are not #1 overall picks. So I agree with you on that point that Colts fan have gotten spoiled.
  10. IMHO, Burrow and Tua are the class of the draft and no other QBs deserve to be taken at 13. So my idea scenerio would be to sign Rivers for one or two years, use the 13th pick to get a receiver or DT, and then get a guy like Gordon or Fromm in the 2nd or 3rd if they last that long. Would put us into position and win and I like their upside. I think Gordon could be really good but he needs some time. I have stated I would avoid Love at all costs.
  11. Why do we keep thinking we can take QBs and coach them up to the next level? Isn't it pretty obvious that Brissett and Winston are who they are going to be? Should be pick up Mitchell Trubinsky and coach him up? As a coach, you can only do so much. They either have it or they don't. Actually, I would be more interested in Rivers for a year and drafting a guy like Fromm or Gordon to groom. But please no Winston or Brissett.
  12. One of the wisest questions I have seen on here ever! I totally agree. Why would you think an older Brady would be any better behind a bad o-line?
  13. I know it is difficult evaluating QBs because you have to consider what talent is around them, their coaching, and other factors. For example, Tom Brady seems to have forever to throw the ball and rarely are the targets contested. They are usually wide open. Watch the Super Bowl between the Pats and Eagles. Most of Nick Foles throws are contested were Brady usually has wide open receivers and little pressure. But I get what you are saying about Gordon. Why Gordon impresses me is that he very quickly makes reads and gets rid of the ball fast. More often, the ball is throw in the best place it could be thrown. He will hit receivers in stride so they don't have to slow down. He is very decisive, which is something JB has never been. So that is why I make the case I like Gordon over Love. Two guys can both complete the same pass, but it is how they do it and the placement that tells me something. I like Gordon is a better QB then Love. Loves accuracy is up and down.
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