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If the plan is to start Brissett next season, then they might want to consider pulling him now to let his knee recover properly or for him to get surgery or whatever is needed. It’s obvious he is in pain while playing, everyone saw that wince and knee grab after he was sacked. He is NOWHERE near as mobile or confident as he was prior to the injury, it’s obvious. We all know what happened to our last QB who played through too many injuries, lets not repeat that cycle. JMO.

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5 minutes ago, HOZER said:

If the plan is to start Brissett next season, then they might want to consider pulling him now to let his knee recover properly or for him to get surgery or whatever is needed. It’s obvious he is in pain while playing, everyone saw that wince and knee grab after he was sacked. He is NOWHERE near as mobile or confident as he was prior to the injury, it’s obvious. We all know what happened to our last QB who played through too many injuries, lets not repeat that cycle. JMO.

 

 It would be great if they would shut him and TY down after Tampa Bay.

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4 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

hey look a tweet that basically says stop making excuses lol

Not really.

 

It says I'm not going to throw the guys I'm stuck playing with under the bus, because I'm still stuck playing with them and/or coaching them for the rest of the season.

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20 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Not really.

 

It says I'm not going to throw the guys I'm stuck playing with under the bus, because I'm still stuck playing with them and/or coaching them for the rest of the season.

sure lol

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1 hour ago, OffensivelyPC said:

The bolded was exactly my reaction to the play once I processed it watching from the stands.  I thought, why are we doing things that work against the screen like that?  So at that point, it's either take the sake or throw the ball and hope for the best.  Neither is ideal, but the picture you posted makes it seem like it wasn't as close as I remembered it.  I think either way, this play is going to be a loss of yards unless Hines makes an unbelievable play.

1 hour ago, OffensivelyPC said:

The bolded was exactly my reaction to the play once I processed it watching from the stands.  I thought, why are we doing things that work against the screen like that?  So at that point, it's either take the sake or throw the ball and hope for the best.  Neither is ideal, but the picture you posted makes it seem like it wasn't as close as I remembered it.  I think either way, this play is going to be a loss of yards unless Hines makes an unbelievable play.  

Dunno. To my untrained eye the play fake looks like it did exactly what was intended to — freeze the DE and linebackers at the line of scrimmage and open a lane for Costanzo as a lead blocker in front of Hines. If Pascal makes a better block or the DB a lazier fill, it looks like you’d have Costanzo in front of Hines with a single DB to beat. 

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5 hours ago, OffensivelyPC said:

The bolded was exactly my reaction to the play once I processed it watching from the stands.  I thought, why are we doing things that work against the screen like that?  So at that point, it's either take the sake or throw the ball and hope for the best.  Neither is ideal, but the picture you posted makes it seem like it wasn't as close as I remembered it.  I think either way, this play is going to be a loss of yards unless Hines makes an unbelievable play.  

 

Great point, you experienced this in 'real time'. These are the fastest, most elite football players.  It is what it appears to be.  In real time, you have one shot for an initial impression. It happened, you 'saw' it.

 

Later, HD cameras. slo-mo, still frame freeze frames, etc, can break down details that are difficult to completely take in full speed. But if reviewed again, in real time, there's a similar initial impression along with knowledge of still/slo-mo breakdown. But this is all well past the play. Unless a challenge to NY crew.

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4 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

With this.  n we all just stop the nonsense of Chad Kelly starting. He is immature and can’t handle being the quarterback of an NFL team. No team in their right might would ever pay this man franchise money. 
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2865161-colts-qb-chad-kelly-sued-by-von-millers-photographer-for-assault-and-battery

 

 

New story, but still stemming from the same old incident/drunken night for which he was cut from the Broncos for ... it changes nothing.  He has been paying the price for that night, and if he proves he has learned his lesson, and by everything I have read he has been a model player ... than I have no problem giving him a chance.

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13 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

With this.  n we all just stop the nonsense of Chad Kelly starting. He is immature and can’t handle being the quarterback of an NFL team. No team in their right might would ever pay this man franchise money. 
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2865161-colts-qb-chad-kelly-sued-by-von-millers-photographer-for-assault-and-battery

 

So let's hold you at bay and persecute you for the things you did as a young person.

I seem to remember that Pat McAfee had a drunken issue when he was young. He turned out to be an exceptional player even for a punter.

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2 minutes ago, esmort said:

 

New story, but still stemming from the same old incident/drunken night for which he was cut from the Broncos for ... it changes nothing.  He has been paying the price for that night, and if he proves he has learned his lesson, and by everything I have read he has been a model player ... than I have no problem giving him a chance.

He pays the price because he has a history of stupid decisions.
 

At Clemson he showed immaturity. It was reported that he got into so bad with coaches during A SPRING GAME that Clemson police had to escort him off the field.  This ultimately led to him being kicked off. 
 

went to Junior college and did well. 
 

gets a second chance at Ole Miss and almost immediately screws up. Gets into a fight in buffalo at a night club. Nothing else after that. 
 

Drafted to quarterback needy Denver but then get cuts for getting drunk and trespassing. 
 

just a lot of stupid decisions. 

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5 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

He pays the price because he has a history of stupid decisions.
 

At Clemson he showed immaturity. It was reported that he got into so bad with coaches during A SPRING GAME that Clemson police had to escort him off the field.  This ultimately led to him being kicked off. 
 

went to Junior college and did well. 
 

gets a second chance at Ole Miss and almost immediately screws up. Gets into a fight in buffalo at a night club. Nothing else after that. 
 

Drafted to quarterback needy Denver but then get cuts for getting drunk and trespassing. 
 

just a lot of stupid decisions. 

 

Yeah we all know the "rap sheet" every incident was brought up when we first signed him ... point is the story you posted changes nothing, it stems from same things he is already being punished for. Nobody is saying he shouldn't pay the price ... he got cut and is PS/3rd string now, so he is paying the price.  I don't know what more you want to happen or point you are trying to make. 

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27 minutes ago, esmort said:

I don't know what more you want to happen

 

Public execution.

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32 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Public execution.

 

That's a little much. I think flogging the Swag on the Circle in 10 degree temps would be enough.

And let his uncle do the flogging. Guessing Jim is a bit tired of the silliness and wouldn't mind a little pay back. 100 lashes, and he gets the start vs New Orleans. That's enough punishment IMO... 

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Not real impressed with JB's post game presser last night, he's not good enough to come out all snarky.  Must have learned that from his time spent in N.E.  :thmdown:

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26 minutes ago, ojsglove said:

Not real impressed with JB's post game presser last night, he's not good enough to come out all snarky.  Must have learned that from his time spent in N.E.  :thmdown:

He didn't like the "audition" question at all did he. 

Honestly, I didn't care for the snarkyness either. I get it that he's unhappy with the loss, but it kind of took away from the "good guy" picture I have him. I don't blame him for being snarky about the audition question, but he was snarky before that.

 

Questions are going to get tougher.... 

 

I do like the plaid though lol.

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5 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

He didn't like the "audition" question at all did he. 

Honestly, I didn't care for the snarkyness either. I get it that he's unhappy with the loss, but it kind of took away from the "good guy" picture I have him. I don't blame him for being snarky about the audition question, but he was snarky before that.

 

Questions are going to get tougher.... 

 

I do like the plaid though lol.

Now you are being critical of his post game pressers lmao . Come on man, you seem to love to pile on this guy. He has a long way to go before he matches Cam Newton's pressers for being a cry baby or a sore loser. 

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3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Now you are being critical of his post game pressers lmao . Come on man, you seem to love to pile on this guy. He has a long way to go before he matches Cam Newton's pressers for being a cry baby or a sore loser. 

You didn't think it was a bit snarky?

Does it not kind of go against his "good guy" image?

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Just now, EastStreet said:

You didn't think it was a bit snarky?

Does it not kind of go against his "good guy" image?

He just lost a game that probably ended our season, I have seen worse from other QB's. 

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He just lost a game that probably ended our season, I have seen worse from other QB's. 

I think there's a difference between acting unhappy, and acting snarky. And yes, I've seen worse from QBs too, I just didn't think I'd see this from JB. Not a big deal, just surprised.

 

Perhaps JB needs to take a few Qs from Newton, and ditch the plaid. You know "when you look good, you play good. and when you play good, they pay good" :neener:

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4 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

I think there's a difference between acting unhappy, and acting snarky. And yes, I've seen worse from QBs too, I just didn't think I'd see this from JB. Not a big deal, just surprised.

 

Perhaps JB needs to take a few Qs from Newton, and ditch the plaid. You know "when you look good, you play good. and when you play good, they pay good" :neener:

I think he just basically thought that was a silly statement the fact the guy called it an audition. I would've too actually, He really didn't say anything bad to the guy.

 

IMO he looks like a huge lumberjack with that shirt and hat on ready to chop wood lmao conan obrien conan25 GIF by Team Coco

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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I think he just basically thought that was a silly statement the fact the guy called it an audition. I would've too actually, He really didn't say anything bad to the guy.

 

IMO he looks like a huge lumberjack with that shirt and hat on ready to chop wood lmao conan obrien conan25 GIF by Team Coco

 

I didn't have an issue at all with the way he answered the audition question, or the way he acted after it. To me, he sounded snarky prior to that question, which is what surprised me. 

 

I actually do like the plaid :-). And I truly hate Newton's commercial about look/play/pay good. Never liked the guy since college.

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2 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

 

I didn't have an issue at all with the way he answered the audition question, or the way he acted after it. To me, he sounded snarky prior to that question, which is what surprised me. 

 

I actually do like the plaid :-). And I truly hate Newton's commercial about look/play/pay good. Never liked the guy since college.

Jacoby knows the season is over going into that presser so IMO he wasn't himself. Not making excuses for the guy but he just wasn't happy. He didn't come off that snarky to the point where his good guy image should be looked at, at least I don't think so. JMO

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11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

IMO he looks like a huge lumberjack with that shirt and hat on ready to chop wood lmao conan obrien conan25 GIF by Team Coco

This gif brought to mind the joker line "you ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" Lol. No idea why but still.

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5 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

This gif brought to mind the joker line "you ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" Lol. No idea why but still.

I knew what it was, Jack was an awesome Joker. Jack is great period in most of his movies. Shining is the best the shining heres johnny GIF

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19 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Jacoby knows the season is over going into that presser so IMO he wasn't himself. Not making excuses for the guy but he just wasn't happy. He didn't come off that snarky to the point where his good guy image should be looked at, at least I don't think so. JMO

Still a 10% chance. It would take winning out, which I doubt they can do though. If we lose this weekend, than down to 2% and I'll give up all hope.

 

I think he was more unhappy with himself to be honest. Sure it was a big hit to our playoff chances, but he's probably more PO'd because of the 2 INTs/struggles. The media has taken off the gloves lately, so he's got to be feeling the pressure.

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8 hours ago, ojsglove said:

Not real impressed with JB's post game presser last night, he's not good enough to come out all snarky.  Must have learned that from his time spent in N.E.  :thmdown:

 

7 hours ago, EastStreet said:

He didn't like the "audition" question at all did he. 

Honestly, I didn't care for the snarkyness either. I get it that he's unhappy with the loss, but it kind of took away from the "good guy" picture I have him. I don't blame him for being snarky about the audition question, but he was snarky before that.

 

Questions are going to get tougher.... 

 

I do like the plaid though lol.

 

JB is always snarky, ever since college.  My assumption was that he just didn't know how to be very "social" with people that he doesn't respect (reporters), and this is the reason I was not getting on him too much....I thought it was a personality thing. 

 

However, I am not so sure anymore; it is almost like he wants to make everyone asking him a question, especially negative, look dumb.  Also, just like I posted last week.  I can't find a time when he actually takes blame, it is always a team thing.  Andrew would have said "I made a couple bonehead plays"; Jacoby won't say that and will actually start getting accusatory or say the "team" didn't come up with the plays.  Can anyone find a quote where he basically says "it is on me"?

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9 hours ago, EastStreet said:

You didn't think it was a bit snarky?

Does it not kind of go against his "good guy" image?


I didn’t see the great “Leader” in that presser. Also, no reference of “I” at all. 
 

 

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Just now, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

Seems to me that the national media is a trying to come around on the topic of injuries. They are not an excuse but they do play a factor. 
 

https://www.espn.com/blog/indianapolis-colts/post/_/id/25090/jacoby-brissett-hasnt-been-able-to-overcome-colts-injury-dilemma

you need to stop riding the national media the only reason they wanna love on JB is in case he were to turn into a stud they could say I told you so. none of them actually give a crap about him they just wanna look smart.

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14 minutes ago, MPStack said:


I didn’t see the great “Leader” in that presser. Also, no reference of “I” at all. 
 

 

 

He gets asked by Greg Doyle if he feels pressure at all because of the 2 year extension (audition).  Jacoby says that he doesn't and says "Is that what this is"?  Greg responds by saying "Yes, that is what I think it is", and Jacoby says "You answered your own question then".

 

First of all, most professionals answer this by saying something along the lines of "I feel that I have an audition every time I step on that field, nothing is given to you in this league".  This is how even Vinny has responded to his performance.  The difference is that Vinny has earned a bit of leeway (not as much as Frank has given to him, but that is another topic), but Brissett hasn't proven anything.  But Brissett doesn't, he turns the question in a very passive aggressive way.  I really don't like this mentality, as I think it stems from an accountability issue due to insecurity.  

 

 

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Just now, Colts_Fan12 said:

you need to stop riding the national media the only reason they wanna love on JB is in case he were to turn into a stud they could say I told you so. none of them actually give a crap about him they just wanna look smart.

 

If the media is consistent in anything it is that they love to build someone up, and then love to tear them down.  We are on the downward spiral where some media figure will break away from the pack and have their own "hot take" that Jacoby isn't a franchise qb.  This narrative will then start to gain momentum.  Only Jacoby can stop it with consistently good game play.

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19 minutes ago, bhougland said:

 

He gets asked by Greg Doyle if he feels pressure at all because of the 2 year extension (audition).  Jacoby says that he doesn't and says "Is that what this is"?  Greg responds by saying "Yes, that is what I think it is", and Jacoby says "You answered your own question then".

 

First of all, most professionals answer this by saying something along the lines of "I feel that I have an audition every time I step on that field, nothing is given to you in this league".  This is how even Vinny has responded to his performance.  The difference is that Vinny has earned a bit of leeway (not as much as Frank has given to him, but that is another topic), but Brissett hasn't proven anything.  But Brissett doesn't, he turns the question in a very passive aggressive way.  I really don't like this mentality, as I think it stems from an accountability issue due to insecurity.  

 

I have zero problem with a snarky response to a Greg Doyle question, as he's a first class troll. Snark on, JB.

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25 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I have zero problem with a snarky response to a Greg Doyle question, as he's a first class troll. Snark on, JB.

I was thinking the same... of all the things JB has done(or not done) this season, his post-game press-conferences are not on my list I worry about. 

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43 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I have zero problem with a snarky response to a Greg Doyle question, as he's a first class troll. Snark on, JB.

 

 

^^^ This ^^^   !!   :spit:

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Everyone defending Brissett. The receivers have ran for more yards than he has thrown this year. We hve 2400 yrds passing 1300 came from Yac. Brissetts best best pass is short dumpoffs. He his a dumpster fire throwing deeper.

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I can recall everyone talking up the offense when McDaniels was coming and then when Reich arrived.  That we were going to be a short quick passing game.  Now that we are doing that, everyone is complaining.

 

I don't care about if Receivers are getting YAC or Jacoby is going deep. As long as we score.  Which we haven't been lately.

 

 

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1 hour ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I can recall everyone talking up the offense when McDaniels was coming and then when Reich arrived.  That we were going to be a short quick passing game.  Now that we are doing that, everyone is complaining.

 

I don't care about if Receivers are getting YAC or Jacoby is going deep. As long as we score.  Which we haven't been lately.

 

Do you have zero regard for nuance?

 

A passing attack that emphasizes quick hitters takes pressure off the line and the QB, and if you can get some YAC, it can still produce yardage and keep the chains moving. It's still a valuable part of a good offense, IMO.

 

That doesn't mean we should never throw the ball down the field.

 

And by the way, JB has gone from getting rid of it quickly in the opener (2.33 seconds) to now having the 5th longest time to throw in the league (2.91 seconds). So we're not even seeing a short, quick passing game, and certainly not one with any ability to get big plays. Instead, we're seeing a short, slow passing game that's contributing to an average of less than 22 points/game and a lethargic 5.9 yards/play.

 

So, yeah, people are complaining, and for good reason.

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