wordofmouth Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, BOTT said: I highly doubt Ballard traded up because the guy is a great teammate. Another good point. Keep it up BOTT you're on a roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, BOTT said: I highly doubt Ballard traded up because the guy is a great teammate. I'm sorry but is a nonsensical argument to think that Ballard took him because of the great teammate. He's building this team one player at a time. I expect him to see a lot of time this season. I just don't think that gathers will be here long-term 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said: Yeah I was saying he was a 6th-7th round pick in my opinion watching Michigan State games. He could prove me wrong but I don't see it. Would definitely rather have Hooker or Deionte Thompson. We already have our Hooker. How many do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantBeStopped Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 And there goes hooker to our divisional rival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally5 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said: He’s great in coverage against tight ends. Something we struggle against badly. That was exactly my thought watching his highlight video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The Colts are applying for the Ivy League of the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said: Hooker has character concerns. We were never touching him. What concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, ColtsLegacy said: We already have our Hooker. How many do you need? 2 Hookers are always better than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 At this point you aren’t getting Day one starters but you are getting guys who can become starters and that’s what the Colts need at safety with Geathers on a one year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aReggie7 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Not that this is a reason to draft Willis but I thought it was interesting to know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Kenny Moore announces pick. We picked up kindred also that helped with the safety concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, GoColts8818 said: At this point you aren’t getting Day one starters but you are getting guys who can become starters and that’s what the Colts need at safety with Geathers on a one year deal. there were a few starter caliber Ss available. surprised we moved up for Willis. He was like the 7th best S still on the board. would have loved to have had Hooker or Thompson from Bama or even Johnson or Tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorRoberts Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 He’s going to challenge Geathers and fairly for that starting ss spot right out the gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorRoberts Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, BOTT said: 2 Hookers are always better than one. Tell that to this rash I got! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I love having Spartans on the colts so I hope he ends up being great. but I'm bummed the only thing I wanted from this draft was someone to move geathers to the bench this year and I'm not sure he can. would have much rather had Hooker or CGJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Smonroe said: I was listening to nfl channel o Sirius. They said he was the S that all the TEs had the hardest time against. They loved the pick and how Ballard is building the team. they experts used the same reason (we need to improve vs TEs) for picking RYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Wolf Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 From TheDraftNetwork... "Competitive Toughness - Elite competitor with sterling football character. Work ethic and leadership, both vocal and by example, are off the charts. Physical with a hot motor in all phases of the game, often chirping after the play. " Definitely a Ballard type of guy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Irish YJ said: there were a few starter caliber Ss available. surprised we moved up for Willis. He was like the 7th best S still on the board. would have loved to have had Hooker or Thompson from Bama or even Johnson or Tell. That’s your opinion. Kieper had him as the second best player still available today. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter where anyone had him but Ballard. Sounds like he was high on their board and he slipped to the point he was worth going to get. Also, I didn’t say he couldn’t be a starter. I just said he’s probably not a day one starter as are most people from here on out. They probably need some development which is fine. I am also saying the Colts don’t need a day one starter at safety because of Geathers, Hooker, and Farley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPFolks Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, MTC said: This is how a good team is run. NO ONE expected the Colts to move up this much to get a player (really to move up to get ANY player) so guess what? The # of other teams that might have planned to draft him just got blind sided completely. A hard nosed box safety... what's not to like? He can take on TE's as well. High character. Great pick! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts00 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/khari-willis I thought this was interesting 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Nothing flashy about this reel, just getting the job done. Here you can get a feel for the guy himself. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 With my limited knowledge on this guy, I don't expect him to beat a healthy Geathers out for a starting spot anytime soon; however, I do see him playing a big role in certain situations. If he's as good in coverage vs TEs as claimed, I can see Geathers moving to LB in more situations and bringing this guy into SS. We already saw that a good bit with Farley and Geathers last year. I see all four of our Safeties seeing snaps. Plus, now we have a bit better depth, which with Hooker's and Geathers' injury histories depth is very much needed. Then long-term, hopefully, this guy could be the answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillen Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 It always confuses me that "pro scouts" say these safeties lack speed, but the best safeties in the league right now all ran similar 40's to what Willis ran. I'm not betting against Ballard. Hope the pick turns out to be a future long-term starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, BOTT said: 2 Hookers are always better than one. That's a very dangerous mentality, my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPFolks Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Irish YJ said: there were a few starter caliber Ss available. surprised we moved up for Willis. He was like the 7th best S still on the board. would have loved to have had Hooker or Thompson from Bama or even Johnson or Tell. 7th best according to who? Obviously they were way off the mark. Kiper (for what it is worth) said he was #2 available on the board at the start of the 4th. He (contrary to any false belief) does not do all the research on his list of picks. He has a team working on it. And they thought highly of this guy. Frankly by the 4th round, there is little difference between the NFL quality players still remaining beyond their special individual characteristics. In that area, this guy is an A+ leader and team guy. THAT is why they went up and got him. We have a team FULL of character guys. That will allow us, at some point, to take a chance on a troubled player because a team full of true leaders and high character guys can keep someone like that in line while protecting the locker room from any possible contagion. Remember when Ballard said we weren't quite ready to take on someone like Bell or Brown? Well, with some of these picks so far this year, that small gap is being closed. By next year, if a massive FA of need come available (like a pass rusher etc.) we may be ready to handle any personality issues. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: That’s your opinion. Kieper had him as the second best player still available today. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter where anyone had him but Ballard. Sounds like he was high on their board and he slipped to the point he was worth going to get. Also, I didn’t say he couldn’t be a starter. I just said he’s probably not a day one starter as are most people from here on out. They probably need some development which is fine. I am also saying the Colts don’t need a day one starter at safety because of Geathers, Hooker, and Farley. I like him. He was a team leader type at MSU, so he'll be good in the locker room. I just think he's limited as a back up box safety. He'll contribute on STs too, but even there his lack of speed might hold him back from what we'd typically expect from a S playing STs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Im kinda so so on this one. Will wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta519 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I liked Hooker better...but the Ss I wanted were long gone. I just hate giving up picks. I forgot about the early 5th rounder though...I like Wren and Willis...and Harmon and Ridley are still ok the board. Edit: Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, JPFolks said: 7th best according to who? Obviously they were way off the mark. Kiper (for what it is worth) said he was #2 available on the board at the start of the 4th. He (contrary to any false belief) does not do all the research on his list of picks. He has a team working on it. And they thought highly of this guy. Frankly by the 4th round, there is little difference between the NFL quality players still remaining beyond their special individual characteristics. In that area, this guy is an A+ leader and team guy. THAT is why they went up and got him. We have a team FULL of character guys. That will allow us, at some point, to take a chance on a troubled player because a team full of true leaders and high character guys can keep someone like that in line while protecting the locker room from any possible contagion. Remember when Ballard said we weren't quite ready to take on someone like Bell or Brown? Well, with some of these picks so far this year, that small gap is being closed. By next year, if a massive FA of need come available (like a pass rusher etc.) we may be ready to handle any personality issues. Great Post! I think after 2020's draft and Free Agency we will be the team to beat for sure, Luck will be in a zone by then too. This upcoming season I am not sure we will make the SB but I see us winning 11 games and perhaps making the Title Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfeva Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said: I love having Spartans on the colts so I hope he ends up being great. but I'm bummed the only thing I wanted from this draft was someone to move geathers to the bench this year and I'm not sure he can. would have much rather had Hooker or CGJ I hope Geathers stays healthy and proves some critics wrong this year. He’s better than some give him credit for. Mathis started on Special Teams and Willis can add to STs while learning the system. The thing that hits me is that they traded a pick and moved 20 places to get him. I’d be disappointed if Geathers didn’t start because he does have an advantage over a rookie because of his experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Colts Fan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, JPFolks said: We have a team FULL of character guys. We're not the most talented team in the NFL, but I'd say we're building the best locker room in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Don't know why all of the analysts are saying he is good at covering TEs. He shut down Zach Gentry at Michigan who is not good. He would get murdered by any average TE in the NFL. Bottom line for me is that his ceiling is a backup safety who is great on special teams and I think there were options on the board that could actually replace Geathers in the future. And I didn't mean to insinuate that the only reason Ballard picked him was for his character, but I do think that was a major part of the decision. I guarantee him being a team captain and hard worker is the first thing out of Ballard's mouth at the press conference. The only thing I like about the fit is that he is a really good fit in our zone defense and he comes up and tackles well similar to Geathers. He shows no instincts or coverage ability, so unless he improves I'd be scared to have him cover anybody on passing downs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztboiler Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Ironically We made almost the same trade up to draft Geathers at or near the same spot in the 4th round in 2015 edit: correction. Drafted same spot 109, but we traded up for Parry in the 5th not Geathers in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said: Seems like a lot to give up to move up in the 4th. Must be someone they really believe in. We gave up two 4’s at the bottom of the round to mive up 20-25 spits at the top of the round. Two picks for one. The points are close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The Colts surrendered the No. 129 and 135 picks to move up 20 spots. Willis (5’11/213) made 30 starts in the Spartans’ backend, graduating with 6.5 career TFLs, four sacks, and four picks and earning third-team All-Big Ten as a senior. PFF College credited Willis with just a 73.6 passer rating allowed in 2018. Equipped with adequate speed (4.52) and well known for his leadership and character, Willis offers slot corner and deep-safety experience but lacks true man-coverage ability and has shaky ball skills. He’s a probable special teamer and No. 3 safety who could start in a pinch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Chemistry/Culture/great locker room guys + a great QB/great O.Line and speed on defense = Championships. I love what we are doing right now. We have guys that will play for one another IMO and that is what you want. I see that because of their character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, ColtsLegacy said: With my limited knowledge on this guy, I don't expect him to beat a healthy Geathers out for a starting spot anytime soon; however, I do see him playing a big role in certain situations. If he's as good in coverage vs TEs as claimed, I can see Geathers moving to LB in more situations and bringing this guy into SS. We already saw that a good bit with Farley and Geathers last year. I see all four of our Safeties seeing snaps. Plus, now we have a bit better depth, which with Hooker's and Geathers' injury histories depth is very much needed. Then long-term, hopefully, this guy could be the answer. Depth is the key word. If it were the Groucho Marks show , the duck would come down. Your too young to have sen that show. That said can you name the Colts starting SS in the divisional playoff game without looking it up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, JPFolks said: 7th best according to who? Obviously they were way off the mark. Kiper (for what it is worth) said he was #2 available on the board at the start of the 4th. He (contrary to any false belief) does not do all the research on his list of picks. He has a team working on it. And they thought highly of this guy. Frankly by the 4th round, there is little difference between the NFL quality players still remaining beyond their special individual characteristics. In that area, this guy is an A+ leader and team guy. THAT is why they went up and got him. We have a team FULL of character guys. That will allow us, at some point, to take a chance on a troubled player because a team full of true leaders and high character guys can keep someone like that in line while protecting the locker room from any possible contagion. Remember when Ballard said we weren't quite ready to take on someone like Bell or Brown? Well, with some of these picks so far this year, that small gap is being closed. By next year, if a massive FA of need come available (like a pass rusher etc.) we may be ready to handle any personality issues. Kiper doesn't have a team. That’s McShay. Kiper works alone. Always has. McShays team is two other guys who played college ball, as did McShay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Irish YJ said: there were a few starter caliber Ss available. surprised we moved up for Willis. He was like the 7th best S still on the board. would have loved to have had Hooker or Thompson from Bama or even Johnson or Tell. So Ballard took the 7th best safety still on this imaginary board. chuckle silliness. And as the GM in your imaginary world, you can have any one of them. Interesting that in Kiper's top available players to start the day Willis was #2. Seems like what you know about it is well, not much based on the info you gather from your chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricker182 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 No idea how he is as a football player, but he seems like a good dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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