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What are some sayings about the NFL that you hate?

 

Here's a few of mine: 

 

"This guy's best attribute is his will to win." Like, no other player in the NFL has a will to win? This specific guy wants to win more than anyone else? 

 

"That's a great open field tackle" This one doesn't even make sense to me. What is a bad open field tackle?

 

“It depends on the spot.” When has it never depended on the spot? 

 

 

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"So and so QB doesn't do well when he faces pressure, especially pressure up the middle/it's easy to beat him; just put pressure on him"

 

Show me any QB who can throw a good, accurate pass that gets to the receiver on time when he has a big DT right in his face.  Put Vince Wilfork against Satele in front of any QB in the league and watch how well the QB does.

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What are some sayings about the NFL that you hate?

Here's a few of mine:

"This guy's best attribute is his will to win." Like, no other player in the NFL has a will to win? This specific guy wants to win more than anyone else?

"That's a great open field tackle" This one doesn't even make sense to me. What is a bad open field tackle?

“It depends on the spot.” When has it never depended on the spot?

What's a bad open field tackle? How about on a 3rd and 5 play the QB throws a swing pass to the RB out of the backfield, RB 1v1 with a LB 3 yards from first down, RB drives 3 yards with the LB on his back for the first down.

That's just one example quickly off the top of my head. There are most definitely bad open field tackles.

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What's a bad open field tackle? How about on a 3rd and 5 play QB throws a swing pass to the RB out of the backfield, RB 1v1 with a LB 3 yards from first down, RB drives 3 yards with the LB on his back for the first down.

That's just one example quickly off the top of my head. There are most definitely bad open field tackles.

 

Lol i guess that makes sense, but i was more referring to a type of play where guy stops a dude in the open field from reaching the endzone or gaining some type of serious yardage. Think that play where Landry completely whiffed on tackling Dwayne Bowe and Bethea had to walk him down at the 1.

 

I guess you are right technically correct tho. (The best kind of correct!)

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He is a game changer. I swear chuck says this one every week about a quaterback, running back, receiver, or one of our new players we acquire, etc. Its the NFL yes every team has these play makers so it shouldnt come with any surprise, no? 

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What are some sayings about the NFL that you hate?

 

Here's a few of mine: 

 

"This guy's best attribute is his will to win." Like, no other player in the NFL has a will to win? This specific guy wants to win more than anyone else? 

 

"That's a great open field tackle" This one doesn't even make sense to me. What is a bad open field tackle?

 

“It depends on the spot.” When has it never depended on the spot? 

 

The open field tackle thing has already been explained but this phrase is just a code word for "it's close".  If you get 5 yards past the first down line it doesn't really depend on the spot.  Because no reasonable official could put your spot 5 yards back behind you and say "4th down".  

 

But if you are brought down pretty much on the first down line it depends strongly on how the officials saw the play.  

 

As far as terms I hate is all the talk during the draft about arm strength or "big arm" or something like that.  Ever notice how some of guys who have the strongest arms in the league are average to above average QB's at best.  Your elite QB's arn't noted for having extremely strong arms in NFL terms.  At the very least it's never their best attribute.  

 

Now don't get me wrong, you need to have a certain level of arm strength to be successful in the NFL.  But it's just an over-rated attribute.  At some point having extra arm strength doesn't actually help you that much.  Peyton Manning has the weakest arm of his career but it didn't stop him from having a record breaking season.

 

Really they should just talk about if a player has enough arm strength that it does not limit him.  After that the returns on extra arm strength is diminishing.  

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Also saying "This kid is a winner"  All that means is he was on a good college team and his college team won a lot.  Granted he probably helped somewhat with that.  But that gets said about any QB that was on a good college team.  They call AJ McCarron a winner but then call him a game manager because he handed the ball off a lot.  

 

This goes a bit into us (and I don't exclude myself from this) treating wins as a QB stat.

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"He has the IT factor" is a cliche, thrown around loosely. Used to describe anyone the media wants to build up and need to make a case for, including RG3.

 

"He is clutch" is a cliche, thrown around loosely anytime a QB makes a 4th qtr. comeback in a playoff game. Never mind he stunk it up in the first 3 quarters. :)

 

"He choked" is a cliche, thrown around loosely. This is the ultimate one, used purely on W-L record for a QB without analyzing whether the QB did enough to help the team to win or not.

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Anytime a player or coach says " 110%".

If a player says 110% more then twice in an interview then I figure someone else did all his school work in highschool and college.

" Its like coach always says, you gotta give 110%. So i approach each game knowing that I need to give it 110%. We go through practice all week giving 110%, and when game time comes we gotta be out there giving 110%".

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Anything that Cris Collinsworth says... lol

 

During the Bronco's and Patriot's playoff game, Tom Brady over threw a pass. Cris Collinsworth says, "That's why Tom Brady is so good, he can throw a perfect pass plus an extra 5 yards, what an arm." My God...

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Anything that Cris Collinsworth says... lol

 

During the Bronco's and Patriot's playoff game, Tom Brady over threw a pass. Cris Collinsworth says, "That's why Tom Brady is so good, he can throw a perfect pass plus an extra 5 yards, what an arm." My God...

and the sad thing is, he probably wasn't joking.....he probably had naughty dreams about Brady that night too

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The open field tackle thing has already been explained but this phrase is just a code word for "it's close".  If you get 5 yards past the first down line it doesn't really depend on the spot.  Because no reasonable official could put your spot 5 yards back behind you and say "4th down".  

 

But if you are brought down pretty much on the first down line it depends strongly on how the officials saw the play.  

 

As far as terms I hate is all the talk during the draft about arm strength or "big arm" or something like that.  Ever notice how some of guys who have the strongest arms in the league are average to above average QB's at best.  Your elite QB's arn't noted for having extremely strong arms in NFL terms.  At the very least it's never their best attribute.  

 

Now don't get me wrong, you need to have a certain level of arm strength to be successful in the NFL.  But it's just an over-rated attribute.  At some point having extra arm strength doesn't actually help you that much.  Peyton Manning has the weakest arm of his career but it didn't stop him from having a record breaking season.

 

Really they should just talk about if a player has enough arm strength that it does not limit him.  After that the returns on extra arm strength is diminishing.  

The Raiders should have taught everyone by now that 2 of the most overrated player attributes are arm strength and 40 time.  I always thought Chad Pennington was a lot better than he was ever given credit for.  Noodle for an arm, but it was an extremely accurate noodle.

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Anything that Cris Collinsworth says... lol

 

During the Bronco's and Patriot's playoff game, Tom Brady over threw a pass. Cris Collinsworth says, "That's why Tom Brady is so good, he can throw a perfect pass plus an extra 5 yards, what an arm." My God...

 

My cousins are Lions fans and one time they where telling me about how they get tired of all the praise Stafford gets for throwing a perfect spiral and it doesn't seem to matter to the people praising him as to if the ball was complete, incomplete or intercepted.

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My cousins are Lions fans and one time they where telling me about how they get tired of all the praise Stafford gets for throwing a perfect spiral and it doesn't seem to matter to the people praising him as to if the ball was complete, incomplete or intercepted.

 

haha  That interception had a perfect spiral, though!!

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Mine are more general remarks that drive me nuts, not necessarily by commentators or players.

 

"Over/under"  Drives me nuts when people over/under something like "What's the over/under that [Player X] [insert extreme statline that is usually intended to come across as an insult."

 

Commending a huge knockout hit that went for a 20 yard first down.

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"__________ Just wins."  This went viral when Vince Young got drafted.  You saw it most often on the internet, but also by TV pundits.

 

You hear this sort of phrase uttered when a person is trying to argue that the player in question is good but lacks tangible evidence to prove this point.  As a last resort, they make an argument based on specious reasoning that because the player in questions arrival coincides with the success of their team, that player in question is the sole and only cause of that success.

 

The type of logical reasoning would also lead you to believe that your computer monitor protects you from tiger attacks, because you've never once been mauled while near your monitor.

 

Fortunately, players who "Just win" tend to only "Just win" for a season or two and then reality creeps in.

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