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With Wentz traded, who do you want to replace him?  

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  1. 1. With Wentz traded, who do you want to replace him?

    • Jimmy G
    • Derek Carr
    • Kirk Cousins
    • Deshaun Watson
    • Mitchell Trubisky
    • Marcus Mariota
    • Jameis Winston
    • Tyler Huntley
    • Tyrod Taylor
    • Jordan Love
    • Player in the 2022 draft (name who it is)
    • Other (name the specific QB if choosing this option)


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6 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

The way I see it, every game last season was capable of being won. We had the world champions on the ropes, lost a blunder to Baltimore, gave away two games to Tennessee and let the Raiders march down the field at the end. That's five additional gamed we could/should have won with Wentz and no legit passing game. Shoring up the defense with some more talent, bringing in a QB that can actually take what the defense gives us instead of forcing everything and having another legit WR honestly puts us in a good spot IMO.

Honestly the thing that I remember the most from this season was our defense consistently falling apart in the 4th quarter

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1 minute ago, Zoltan said:

Honestly the thing that I remember the most from this season was our defense consistently falling apart in the 4th quarter

Injuries in the Baltimore game spelled doom for us. That's why I said I want some more legit talent on defense. Not losing one or two guys and suddenly 3rd string are stepping in. I know that can't always be helped, but we definitely suffered with key positions.

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25 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

Honestly the thing that I remember the most from this season was our defense consistently falling apart in the 4th quarter

 

No lead was safe with our D. And if the other team has it last we (fans) were SWEATING.

 

 

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Reich is not the QB Whisperer.  Historically speaking he picked Wentz for the Eagles. Luck retired. Brissett was an expensive backup. Rivers lost to the Bills and Wentz was a disaster. Either he is a terrible evaluator OR he can't pick the right QB coach. The last decent one is with TB. Todd Christianson, who worked with Peyton and Luck.

 

I trust Ballard to pick one, but he is so cautiously conservative that missed on the recent great young QB. With the third pick he traded for the sixth and got Quenton Nelson. Should he have gotten a QB??? Did Luck screw him up by not being transparent about his plan to retire?  Then Irsay gives Luck $20M anyway. Go figure???? 

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3 minutes ago, AustexColt said:

Reich is not the QB Whisperer.  Historically speaking he picked Wentz for the Eagles. Luck retired. Brissett was an expensive backup. Rivers lost to the Bills and Wentz was a disaster. Either he is a terrible evaluator OR he can't pick the right QB coach. The last decent one is with TB. Todd Christianson, who worked with Peyton and Luck.

 

I trust Ballard to pick one, but he is so cautiously conservative that missed on the recent great young QB. With the third pick he traded for the sixth and got Quenton Nelson. Should he have gotten a QB??? Did Luck screw him up by not being transparent about his plan to retire?  Then Irsay gives Luck $20M anyway. Go figure???? 

You mean Clyde Christensen? Lol

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Just now, MPStack said:

Delayed Gratification!

Yup.

I figure with either have some scrub and suffer for a year, or sign Jimmy G and be mediocre for a few years.

 

Personally though, I'd prefer a Peyton Manning blow up doll to an Andrew Luck mannequin. 

 

I'm guessing the conversation is going something like this....

 

Irsay: "Chris, find me a popular and super hot date to the prom"

Chris: "Jim, all the popular girls are gone"

Reich: "I could put Jimmy G in a nice dress"

Irsay: "He doesn't put out (the stats) like I want"

Chris: "Frank, that dress would cost too much, and the after-prom would be zero fun"

Irsay: "Guys, what do I pay you guys for"

Chris: "Jim, have you seen Jimmy Page's guitar is up for auction"

Irsay: "Guys, I'll be back. Great job. Let me know what you come up with"

Reich: "Chris, what do you think about bringing Jacoby back"

Chris: "Frank, I think you need to go pray on it"

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3 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Yup.

I figure with either have some scrub and suffer for a year, or sign Jimmy G and be mediocre for a few years.

 

Personally though, I'd prefer a Peyton Manning blow up doll to an Andrew Luck mannequin. 

 

I'm guessing the conversation is going something like this....

 

Irsay: "Chris, find me a popular and super hot date to the prom"

Chris: "Jim, all the popular girls are gone"

Reich: "I could put Jimmy G in a nice dress"

Irsay: "He doesn't put out (the stats) like I want"

Chris: "Frank, that dress would cost too much, and the after-prom would be zero fun"

Irsay: "Guys, what do I pay you guys for"

Chris: "Jim, have you seen Jimmy Page's guitar is up for auction"

Irsay: "Guys, I'll be back. Great job. Let me know what you come up with"

Reich: "Chris, what do you think about bringing Jacoby back"

Chris: "Frank, I think you need to go pray on it"

You spent way too much time on this

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8 hours ago, ChuggaBeer said:

Well.  I am not the one who gave me my name,  I've been Chug for a long time.   So I think I have a great chance of winning.    And lets be honest. I was gonna drink no matter who the QB is. LOL

I don't doubt you've earned your moniker.......lol......I just meant we create some rules regarding play and drink accordingly. Could even share it with the group!

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My vote anyone but Carr.  Rivers and most owned him most his career and he’s never been and never will put a team on his shoulders.  Every Raider fan will tell you the same.  Most on this site hate Rivers who won a playoff game, think Carr is the answer and bizarrely miss Wentz.

 

I get Jimmy G also cannot put a team on his shoulders but he’s available and Carr is not.  Carr will cost tons of picks and our GM won’t be extorted.  I also like Trubisky because he’s a dual threat.  I think this kid can make it happen and curious everyone’s thoughts?????
 

 

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It's gonna have to be a guy like Carr or Ryan.  If you add Trubitsky you're gonna find out in 2022 that the owner doesn't like him either and he has to go and oh by the way you're fired as well and out more picks.

 

And what I don't like is both those guys are gonna cost a load of picks.  More than what they're worth.  Because neither are elite guys nor are they likely to grow into elite guys.  Of the two Ryan looked close to that his Super Bowl run season but it's unlikely he's ever more than an above average QB.

 

If it's me I'd go with the draft, because that's the only place you're going to find a guy with upside.  So more risk but draft a guy who has the qualities you're looking for.  This group doesn't look all that hot but I'd go get Corral.  He's going to be a good pro I think.

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31 minutes ago, Boondoggle said:

It's gonna have to be a guy like Carr or Ryan.  If you add Trubitsky you're gonna find out in 2022 that the owner doesn't like him either and he has to go and oh by the way you're fired as well and out more picks.

 

And what I don't like is both those guys are gonna cost a load of picks.  More than what they're worth.  Because neither are elite guys nor are they likely to grow into elite guys.  Of the two Ryan looked close to that his Super Bowl run season but it's unlikely he's ever more than an above average QB.

 

If it's me I'd go with the draft, because that's the only place you're going to find a guy with upside.  So more risk but draft a guy who has the qualities you're looking for.  This group doesn't look all that hot but I'd go get Corral.  He's going to be a good pro I think.


Draft makes sense for sure likely having to move up.  I’m not sure we have even a 1st round pick.  Trubisky wouldn’t cost picks and Ryan's not available and would cost a ton.  I like Ryan more than Carr for sure.  

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13 hours ago, Beardog said:

My vote anyone but Carr.  Rivers and most owned him most his career and he’s never been and never will put a team on his shoulders.  Every Raider fan will tell you the same.  Most on this site hate Rivers who won a playoff game, think Carr is the answer and bizarrely miss Wentz.

 

I get Jimmy G also cannot put a team on his shoulders but he’s available and Carr is not.  Carr will cost tons of picks and our GM won’t be extorted.  I also like Trubisky because he’s a dual threat.  I think this kid can make it happen and curious everyone’s thoughts?????
 

 

I really don’t see people on this site hating on Rivers. In fact, almost everyone on here seems to be thankful for the good year he gave us last year.

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43 minutes ago, chickenMan said:

I would sign Jameis Winston. He clearly has the arm talent and seemed to have limited his turnovers before he tore his ACL. At worst he’s a one-year stopgap, at best maybe pairing him with Reich could finally help him reach his full potential.

 

Definitely take him over Jimmy G., Mitch, Teddy, and everyone else on the FA list.

 

But I like what Bowen says - you don't stop swinging just because you may have struck out last at bat.  I'd be fine with them giving up a bunch of picks and maybe a pro bowler for Carr.

 

Ballard's goal should be to have the same starting QB at least two years in a row.

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On 3/10/2022 at 7:34 PM, Defjamz26 said:

I hear and get the criticism of the QB class. But that is all subjective. We don’t know what any of these guys will be at the next level. If Mac Jones, Dak Prescott, Derek Carr, and Russell Wilson all came out in the same draft right now (without us knowing what we know now) people would say this is a terrible draft class. You can argue that the situation they all went to mattered, but that’s exactly my point. 
 

Plus what’s an early 2nd (or late 1 if we trade up) for a POTENTIAL long term answer at QB? That’s not terrible draft capital. Even if we took a guy and he busted, it wouldn’t be as bad as the top 15 pick we ended up having to give up for Wentz.

 

Like you said these coaches and scouts know more than us. We don’t really know how good this QB class can be. For all we know, Desmond Ridder may be an All-pro someday. Pickett may be the next Herbert, who knows. The hope is that the scouts and GMs do. I’m not saying we HAVE to draft one, but there’s needs to be a long term plan if not. My thinking Is if there’s a FA you want to sign but you don’t think he can be the starter for more than a season, then you should explore your draft options now and not later. Again, when you force yourself into a corner, you end up having to over-spend with either draft picks or actual money. Or you end up completely missing out.

 

Its okay to miss. It’s not okay to not take a shot at all.

The sadthing is that they will have a really hard time attracting  free agents without a qb.

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On 3/10/2022 at 4:56 AM, NewColtsFan said:

I would like a one year bridge quarterback.

 

I don’t like all the other options, they’re going to be way too expensive and will not bring us much closer to the level of play we’re going to need.    Too much risk, not enough reward.
 

Let’s regroup in 2023 when there should be better options both in the draft and free agency.    As a fan, I can wait a year for better options.   All that said, I don’t think I’m going to get my wish.  

 Not a bad option. For a one year bridge, I wouldn’t mind seeing Rivers again, if he’s available. He couldn’t run or throw super deep but he was accurate and it would make a great storyline.

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22 hours ago, AustexColt said:

Reich is not the QB Whisperer.  Historically speaking he picked Wentz for the Eagles. Luck retired. Brissett was an expensive backup. Rivers lost to the Bills and Wentz was a disaster. Either he is a terrible evaluator OR he can't pick the right QB coach. The last decent one is with TB. Todd Christianson, who worked with Peyton and Luck.

 

I trust Ballard to pick one, but he is so cautiously conservative that missed on the recent great young QB. With the third pick he traded for the sixth and got Quenton Nelson. Should he have gotten a QB??? Did Luck screw him up by not being transparent about his plan to retire?  Then Irsay gives Luck $20M anyway. Go figure???? 

I disagree. If u look at every qb under  Reich, they have  had their best year. Even Wentz in 2017 and 2021

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17 hours ago, Beardog said:

My vote anyone but Carr.  Rivers and most owned him most his career and he’s never been and never will put a team on his shoulders.  Every Raider fan will tell you the same.  Most on this site hate Rivers who won a playoff game, think Carr is the answer and bizarrely miss Wentz.

 

I get Jimmy G also cannot put a team on his shoulders but he’s available and Carr is not.  Carr will cost tons of picks and our GM won’t be extorted.  I also like Trubisky because he’s a dual threat.  I think this kid can make it happen and curious everyone’s thoughts?????
 

 

 Do u really think Jimmy G is coming to Indy? He has a  no trade clause and  known to date porn stars. Doesn't seem like a good for Indy lol!!

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Pick any cheap-fish name out the hat. Bridgewater, Jameis, Mariota, Tru....okay maybe not him, Minshew. Any cheap-ish name, it won't matter. We're headed for another season hovering around .500, if we get lucky with the QB and Frank, maybe we're at 10-7 and destined for a 1st round playoff exit. Doesnt matter.

 

Next season should be about getting a young QB in the draft, getting a slew of offensive weapons, and hoping to hit on a pass rusher....with the most important task being the development of the young QB. That's the task.

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Now that he's not going to be indicted, I'd give Watson a go.  As the Texans don't want him anymore, he wouldn't cost us a lot as a trade.  All the names being touted such as Jimmy G and Carr are going to cost us picks which we can't afford to lose--our needs elsewhere need addressing, and Watson is at least as good, or better, than any of the FA QB's going around.

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4 minutes ago, Kangaroo said:

Now that he's not going to be indicted, I'd give Watson a go.  As the Texans don't want him anymore, he wouldn't cost us a lot as a trade.  All the names being touted such as Jimmy G and Carr are going to cost us picks which we can't afford to lose--our needs elsewhere need addressing, and Watson is at least as good, or better, than any of the FA QB's going around.

He wouldn't cost us a lot in a trade?   First. We have no first this year.   Second. They aren't trading him inside the division. 

Third,  the negative PR that comes with him will be huge.

 

Watson will not be our qb

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43 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Okay, if we can’t go all chips in on Carr, my choice is….

 

Andy Dalton.

 

Reasoning:  We already have Dulin.  If you’re an Eagles fan, you’ll get the connection.  


And you know, it feels kind of like what might have been a close to the Manning years. Remember, Polian was pretty high on drafting him to replace Peyton. His career could have been different if it had included TY Hilton and Reggie Wayne if he had inherited that in 2012 instead of Luck. And that 2011 season would have even gone differently if Dalton had handled it than had painter etc. 

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