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On 7/31/2021 at 9:27 AM, Colt.45 said:

So much talent? Was this team a SB roster?

QB was a question mark always. It was a hope and prayer.

We had no pass rush, we lost #2 and #3 and replaced them with draft picks who always need time to come into their own (heck, one of the guys may not even play this season). We're hoping some of the young incumbents show MAJOR growth this year but again, that's another hope and prayer.

WR? Again, a hope and prayer. There're no top WRs on this team. Nobody who's making DCs quake in their boots, we know we have a deep roster but not a single player who has stood out.

CB? We have Kenny....we hope Rhodes can be what he was last year, we HOPE we can get something out of Rock.

 

You get the point. At some of the most important skill positions, this roster is unproven. It was never just a QB away. Sure, if you have a transcendent QB like Luck, it covers up roster gaps but how many teams have that? Wentz wasn't that. Not that I have ever seen.

You miss the one very important fact and that is how the coach uses what he has and also to say the Colts with a good QB won't be in the running is stupid. What was their record last year? Did the make the playoffs last year. Who was their QB last year?

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I have no idea what is going to happen this year, and maybe it's just me, but it's hard to get upset over a guy who has never taken a snap for the Colts.  

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This does sound like the same injury Rivers had. I wonder if Rivers ever ended up having surgery after the season. There was thought he might have too. Bur since he retired maybe he didn’t.

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38 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

He just needs to have the surgery. Worst thing would be game 4 and he can’t go anymore and he is out for two months.

You don’t know that.  Fans need to stop playing doctor and developing treatment plans without even knowing what the injury is or what the recommended treatment is for it.

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14 minutes ago, a06cc said:

I’m not worried about Wentz. We’ve built this team to win in multiple ways. 

 

Yeah, this team feels different than Manning or Luck teams.  It's not all about the QB.  We have a new QB who has never taken a snap for the team, yet most are predicting the Colts will win the division.  Imagine that happening in the past.

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11 minutes ago, a06cc said:

I’m not worried about Wentz. We’ve built this team to win in multiple ways. 

I’m excited at the prospect to see how a QB we drafted and coached plays

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Hopefully tomorrow we get a diagnosis. Can this heal in its own in a few weeks,? Is there a chance of re injuring it? If it can heal on its own then clearly surgery could be avoided. But if there is any chance where he can re injure it he needs to get it fixed. All it will take is the center stepping on it or anything like that.  

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7 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I’m excited at the prospect to see how a QB we drafted and coached plays

Me as well. Eason and the backups are struggling, but people forget it’s against a top 10 defense they’re practicing against. Just to put that out there lol 

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Report: Carson Wentz will rest, will not have immediate surgery

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/01/report-carson-wentz-will-rest-will-not-have-immediate-surgery/

 

...Rapoport reports that Wentz is going to rest his foot and do other rehab work over the next few days rather than have surgery. If all goes well, Wentz could be able to play in the season opener. If not, surgery will be back on the table and an operation is expected to keep him out for the start of the regular season...

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20 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

This does sound like the same injury Rivers had. I wonder if Rivers ever ended up having surgery after the season. There was thought he might have too. Bur since he retired maybe he didn’t.

 

He most likely did he had a bad grade 3 turf toe. Rivers is one tough dude.

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3 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

 


Not sure plantar fasciitis would be as lucky as his misspelling would make out.  It’s def not just a few days off for a long term fix, but it’s manageable if you keep the workload down. 
 

Got to love armchair Dr season… 

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3 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:


Not sure plantar fasciitis would be as lucky as his misspelling would make out.  It’s def not just a few days off for a long term fix, but it’s manageable if you keep the workload down. 
 

Got to love armchair Dr season… 

Mr moms  went away. But I suspect if she was a athlete or did anything strenuous it might come back. She uses a shoe insert if she will be doing any hiking ect. Until the colts give a diagnosis all we have is speculation.

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12 hours ago, Mackrel829 said:

 

I first heard 'rub some dirt on it' whilst watching Everybody Loves Raymond and I thought it was hilarious.

 

Now I say it all the time lol.

Never watched ELR, but it was a very frequent saying when I was growing up. Get a bump, bruise, or scrape, rub some dirt on it. Didn't need no stinking band aide lol. Then later in HS FB, same thing. I remember guys practicing and playing with blood running down their arms and legs, and nobody gave it a second thought. One of my buds got a cut on his leg which later got a serious infection that kept him out the rest of the season. Guess he didn't get the good dirt. 

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16 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Mr moms  went away. But I suspect if she was a athlete or did anything strenuous it might come back. She uses a shoe insert if she will be doing any hiking ect.

 

I've had it before, but thankfully short lived, and have known people suffer with it on and off for years. Seems that way with a lot of soft tissue inflammation injuries. If it was that I'm not sure they would be considering surgery. Well not unless he had been struggling with it for some time and rest/rehab wasn't working but that would suggest he was carrying before signing.

 

Absolutely just speculation until you some for of diagnosis and even then you're working in the dark. Let's face it, it would be bad management to be fully open about injuries as it's not going to work in your favour as a FO.

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5 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Mr moms  went away. But I suspect if she was a athlete or did anything strenuous it might come back. She uses a shoe insert if she will be doing any hiking ect. Until the colts give a diagnosis all we have is speculation.

No offense, but no two people heal at the same rate even if the injury is the same 

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6 hours ago, chickenMan said:

I think part of the reason teams are more cautious now is the idea of keeping your body healthy for your life after football. Let’s say theoretically Carson had a torn foot muscle and still played through it; 20 years down the line he could have massive pain walking on it and have to use a cane the rest of his life. This is a small example and may be unlikely, but football doesn’t last forever and eventually your body catches up to you. I would bet you good money Roethlisberger will be a health nightmare in 10-20 years, he’s a guy that’s played through everything

I agree football doesn't last forever, but I also know million dollar paychecks only come during a certain window, as do Super Bowls. Some players prioritize one thing over another at times. Everyone's different.

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21 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Report: Carson Wentz will rest, will not have immediate surgery

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/01/report-carson-wentz-will-rest-will-not-have-immediate-surgery/

 

...Rapoport reports that Wentz is going to rest his foot and do other rehab work over the next few days rather than have surgery. If all goes well, Wentz could be able to play in the season opener. If not, surgery will be back on the table and an operation is expected to keep him out for the start of the regular season...

I'm just guessing, but I've seen this movie before.

 

Just get the surgery. The odds that the rehab reaggravates, especially given his prior injury history... 

 

 

I want Rodgers next year. 

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I think most of us will agree. If rest and rehab will actually heal it he should put off surgery. Bur if it is something that is going to be bothering him all season he needs to just fix it and miss a few games. This season isn’t going to start well with him not practicing if that ends up being the case.

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10 minutes ago, csmopar said:

No offense, but no two people heal at the same rate even if the injury is the same 

 

Absolutely, which was I didn't get a lot of Mack to Fisher comparisons when we made that signing. However, I don't think Chloe was trying to say anything like that in her post to be fair. 

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Already reported, but this coming straight from NFL.com

 

Colts QB Carson Wentz (foot) opting for rest, rehab over immediate surgery

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-qb-carson-wentz-foot-opting-for-rest-rehab-over-immediate-surgery

 

"Carson Wentz is holding off on surgery for now.

 

The Colts quarterback plans to rest and rehab his foot injury over the next few days rather than undergo an immediate procedure, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported.

 

This option leaves the door open for Wentz to be available for Week 1. Rapoport added that if Wentz's foot doesn't improve during rehab, surgery might be required but shouldn't keep him out of many games.

 

Just a few days into training camp, Wentz was already out of practice. He suffered his latest injury Thursday and quickly arranged to see noted foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson to determine whether minor surgery was needed. Wentz is expected to miss the remainder of the preseason either way."

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3 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:

 

Absolutely, which was I didn't get a lot of Mack to Fisher comparisons when we made that signing. However, I don't think Chloe was trying to say anything like that in her post. 

The doctor actually gave my mom some exercises to do and mentioned if that didn’t work they could look at other options including surgery.

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15 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Never watched ELR, but it was a very frequent saying when I was growing up. Get a bump, bruise, or scrape, rub some dirt on it. Didn't need no stinking band aide lol. Then later in HS FB, same thing. I remember guys practicing and playing with blood running down their arms and legs, and nobody gave it a second thought. One of my buds got a cut on his leg which later got a serious infection that kept him out the rest of the season. Guess he didn't get the good dirt. 

 

It's amazing to look back and see pictures like this...

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No way would you be allowed to play on, if only for the possible infection risk (Hep/HIV) to other players. 

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1 minute ago, EastStreet said:

 

 

Already reported, but this coming straight from NFL.com

 

Colts QB Carson Wentz (foot) opting for rest, rehab over immediate surgery

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-qb-carson-wentz-foot-opting-for-rest-rehab-over-immediate-surgery

 

"Carson Wentz is holding off on surgery for now.

 

The Colts quarterback plans to rest and rehab his foot injury over the next few days rather than undergo an immediate procedure, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported.

 

This option leaves the door open for Wentz to be available for Week 1. Rapoport added that if Wentz's foot doesn't improve during rehab, surgery might be required but shouldn't keep him out of many games.

 

Just a few days into training camp, Wentz was already out of practice. He suffered his latest injury Thursday and quickly arranged to see noted foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson to determine whether minor surgery was needed. Wentz is expected to miss the remainder of the preseason either way."

Shouldn’t miss many games even with surgery. Hopefully he doesn’t take long to decide if the rehab is working. This sounds very minor.

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4 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

The doctor actually gave my mom some exercises to do and mentioned if that didn’t work they could look at other options including surgery.

 

It will always be individual to the case, but generally you're going to try rehab type treatment for a few months at the very least as surgical intervention has it's own pros/cons. Why I think it's unlikely that's the issue here, unless the injury was pre-existing and not disclosed until exacerbated.

 

Putting a frozen plastic bottle of water on the floor and rolling it back and forth under my foot was weirdly effective at helping the healing process.  

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I think it might be good news they are giving him time to rehab before deciding on surgery. To me that means the surgery is minor and they have the time to see if rehab will work. Seems they aren’t concerned with him missing many games so they will give rehab a try. If rehab works maybe then he will get some practice in late before the season starts.

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2 hours ago, stitches said:

This could be either good or really bad. I hope we don't realize he needs a surgery right before the start of the season. 

My interpretation is that no doctor has told him that he needs surgery right away and that whatever his situation is is that it could actually clear itself up with rest.  No immediate need for surgery at the moment.  To me it doesn't look like a major injury.  

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1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

I think it might be good news they are giving him time to rehab before deciding on surgery. To me that means the surgery is minor and they have the time to see if rehab will work. Seems they aren’t concerned with him missing many games so they will give rehab a try. If rehab works maybe then he will get some practice in late before the season starts.

i think us colt fans are just scared  from the luck injuries .  when a mild ankle injury turns into retirement for luck now colts fans are panicking  over wentz.   the colts are known for down playing a injury acting like everything is fine then all the sudden they say out for the season .

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1 hour ago, King Colt said:

You miss the one very important fact and that is how the coach uses what he has and also to say the Colts with a good QB won't be in the running is stupid. What was their record last year? Did the make the playoffs last year. Who was their QB last year?

 

Stupid? Calm down son.

Did you miss what I said about Luck masking roster deficiencies?

What exactly was difficult to grasp in my post? 

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6 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:

 

It's amazing to look back and see pictures like this...

nintchdbpict000280931539-e1484424835509.

 

No way would you be allowed to play on, if only for the possible infection risk (Hep/HIV) to other players. 

Yup. I gashed my knee in a game, and my leg and shoe were both covered in blood. My shoe (inside) was totally soaked. I guess my socks just soaked it all in. Nobody said anything. That was grade school lol... Today, they pull you just for a little scrape on the elbow. My two 2nd cousins started for a big HS program in Indy the last couple years, and it's just a totally different world. Heck, if you get tackled hard, they might pull you. Concussions weren't a thing back then either lol. 

 

I certainly get the health concerns, but I do miss the good ole days.

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12 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Shouldn’t miss many games even with surgery. Hopefully he doesn’t take long to decide if the rehab is working. This sounds very minor.

IDK, to me, it sounds like something that could linger and linger and linger. Until we know the specifics, which I'm not sure we ever will, I'm just not buying any "be optimistic and buy tickets" narrative. We've heard too much willy nilly stuff from the FO over the years. 

 

Fool me once...

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3 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

i think us colt fans are just scared  from the luck injuries .  when a mild ankle injury turns into retirement for luck now colts fans are panicking  over wentz.   the colts are known for down playing a injury acting like everything is fine then all the sudden they say out for the season .

I still think there is a big possibility a lot of Lucks ankle issue was in his head. He had PTSD from all the injuries. It all makes sense. Remember they couldn’t even figure out what was wrong. 

If this Wentz injury required a long rehab after surgery they would just do it. They probably feel they have a week or two before needing to make a decision.

 

In the mean time We get to learn a ton about Eason. We will gain a lot of info on him. He gets to show what he has for other teams too if he has to play week one. Great opportunity for him.

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1 hour ago, a06cc said:

I’m thinking it’s the rest and see. I honestly think if he needed surgery he would get it. 


Surgeons often give the option of rehab or surgery. I’m sure Luck was given that same option with the shoulder. 
 

Just look at Micheal Thomas. He opted for rest and rehab for his foot and now he’s just had surgery. 

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2 hours ago, csmopar said:

Ugh just do the dang surgery and get it over with. Anytime these guys try to avoid it, it ends up worse

Luck tried to avoid it for years... and it ended up horribly. 

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