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On 8/30/2017 at 9:14 AM, DaColts85 said:

JMV has continued to say that he will miss the first 2 games.  He said he has the possibility to come back sooner but his money is on week 3 start.  His source told him that he was about 25 days or so away from being cleared.  Add practice in there and you are looking closer to week 3 or even week 4 for a return according to him.

 

Not sure what all Holder meant, but I highly doubt they have Luck throwing to Hilton or anyone not an equipment guy.  Why risk a violation?  He could easily be throwing to equipment guys though, who can be running whatever routes they are told.  This is what Manning would do as well.

 

On 8/30/2017 at 9:16 AM, csmopar said:

for all we know, he could be throwing to high school or even undrafted/unsigned WRs....

 

Not unless he's been medically cleared.  He is/was instructed only to throw under strict supervision of the Medical staff/trainers while in rehab.  They want to be sure something like Braxton Miller doesn't happen to the Colts QB for the next 10-14 years.

 

On 8/31/2017 at 7:09 PM, TKnight24 said:

 

 

 

 

 

I've  been saying all along, he will need 2 or (closer to) 3 weeks of team drills/practice once he's cleared. Orthopedic surgeon (and former head physician of the San Diego Chargers for 17 years) Dr. Chao says it will be closer to a month. If Luck comes off the PUP today, I feel/hope he is ready 9/24.  Dr. Chao thinks 10/1.  We'll see what Andrew and the Colts do...

 

I think if Luck somehow/someway, he does not come off PUP (gets moved to Reserve/PUP list), He cannot play until at least 10/16, when the AFC South divisional games for the Colts begin.

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Not a surprise either. Morris outplayed him in the pre-season.

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Stinks Spence couldnt stick. I still would have liked to get Mychael Kendricks when he wason the trading block. Hes looked good in preseason for Philly.

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Just now, Happy2BeHere said:

Walker wasn't great no surprise but neither was Tolzien 

Agree, but the comparison should never be made between the two of them.  I don't even think Walker makes it to PS.  We will get someone from FA.

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For some QBs size and height doesn't matter. For Walker it definitely did matter. He looked out of place and he seemed to be swallowed by both his OL and opponent's DL. He seemed like he had trouble seeing and throwing over the linemen.

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7 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Stinks Spence couldnt stick. I still would have liked to get Mychael Kendricks when he wason the trading block. Hes looked good in preseason for Philly.

He still is a possibility IMO.

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It is important to remember that some of those cut will (hopefully) join the practice squad, so it is not like the Colts dont see any use of some of them. 

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3 minutes ago, BPindy said:

TJ Ward was just released...so those safety spots may be interesting today

Not totally a surprise there

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11 minutes ago, BPindy said:

TJ Ward was just released...so those safety spots may be interesting today

 

He'll latch on with another playoff team quickly.

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Spence being cut irks me a little with Bostic starting. When Bostic was with the starters he looked horrible against the run and against the pass. Reminds me of the Phillip Walker thing a little bit. Guy looks good in training camp and awful in preseason but the coaches just stick with him anyway.

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17 hours ago, csmopar said:

"It's in his head" interesting?

 

I posted about this recently.  one of Luck's biggest struggles will be (once mecially cleared0 to 'trust' his shoulder is better than before the surgery.  I've shown studies that demonstrate (overhead use) athletes do not 'Feel' normal until an average of 11.7 months after.  But, they are often back into playing before that.  Luck will need 2-3 weeks to get the reps to develop trust in his arm, and timing/rapport with his receivers.  All QB's need the latter (even Peyton did) when out all of camp/preseason, Luck has the 'mental' side to address as well.  We'll have to give him room to work himself back in.  So much of a players game is mental.  We have to have that on track as much as his physical condition.

 

2 hours ago, TDewar1987 said:

 

You're probably correct. They will probably cut players based on who becomes available if there are a bunch of players on our roster the Colts feel are on the border.

 

I think the issue here is, players with less than 4 years service aren't so much cut as they are waived.  The waiver period for this season is from 4:00 pm Saturday until noon on Sunday.  So priority to claim 'cut' players off the waiver wire goes to teams with less wins last year then the Colts, until 12:00 noon September 3 - when the waiver/claim period ends .

 

2 hours ago, TDewar1987 said:

probably at 4:00 and .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds. The forum will divide itself by zero and cancel out the universe and we will all cease to exist

haha

OK, I LOL'd...

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1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

I posted about this recently.  one of Lucks biggest struggles will be (once mecially cleared0 to 'trust' his shoulder is better than before the surgery.  I've shown studies that demonstrate (overhead use) athletes do not 'Feel' normal until an average of 11.7 months after.  But, they are often back into playing before that.  Luck will need 2-3 weeks to get the reps to develop trust in his arm, and timing/rapport with his receivers.  All QB's need the latter (even Peyton did) when out all of camp, Luck has the 'mental' side to address as well.  We'll have to give him room to work himself back in.  So much of a players game is mental.  We have to have that on track as much as his physical condition.

 

 

I think the issue here is, players with less than 4 years service aren't so much cut as they are waived.  The waiver period for this season is from 4:00 pm Saturday until noon on Sunday.  So priority to claim 'cut' players off the waiver wire goes to teams with less wins last year then the Colts, until 12:00 noon September 3 - when the waiver/claim period ends .

 

haha

OK, I LOL'd...

 

Oh okay, yeah that makes sense. Still trying to learn how all of it works. I never really paid much attention to the process and all of that in seasons past. I guess Ballard made me take more interest into free agency, draft, scouting etc.

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54 minutes ago, MTC said:

OT Andrew Wylie cut.

 

 

Not suprised...from the looks of it, he didnt even know how to put his helmet on the right way!!!

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1 minute ago, MTC said:

WR Bug Howard released per Stephen Holder.

 

Per Stephen Holder via indystar.com

 

"11:54 a.m.: Here's another one: Rookie receiver Bug Howard, who had a strong training camp, has been waived, per an NFL source. Howard, an undrafted free agent from North Carolina, was competing for one of the Colts' final spots at receiver, a position that was quite competitive."

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1 minute ago, MTC said:

WR Bug Howard released per Stephen Holder.

They sure are trickling in

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I was rooting for Bug Howard. He looked like the type of big bodied receiver we've been missing for a while now. I thought he played well in the games.

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Not surprised on Bug Howard. Natson and Brown were still making plays regardless of bad quarterback play. Howard did not.

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On 8/29/2017 at 2:28 PM, csmopar said:

 

 

Didnt see it posted but hey

Do you mean tell me we have Richardson as a running back...lol

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24 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

Spence being cut irks me a little with Bostic starting. When Bostic was with the starters he looked horrible against the run and against the pass. Reminds me of the Phillip Walker thing a little bit. Guy looks good in training camp and awful in preseason but the coaches just stick with him anyway.

I'm a little shocked after seeing how he played against the Bengals. Thought he and Morrison would have made a good duo.

The bright side is that they must believe Bostic, Walker and Jackson are better, should they make it.

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21 minutes ago, IndyEric07 said:

Not suprised...from the looks of it, he didnt even know how to put his helmet on the right way!!!

lol

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5 minutes ago, coltsfeva said:

I'm a little shocked after seeing how he played against the Bengals. Thought he and Morrison would have made a good duo.

The bright side is that they must believe Bostic, Walker and Jackson are better, should they make it.

I'm just a little skeptical. They thought Walker was better than Stephen Morris until preseason games showed otherwise. Some people are better during games. Bostic looked horrible all preseason.

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2 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

I'm just a little skeptical. They thought Walker was better than Stephen Morris until preseason games showed otherwise. Some people are better during games. Bostic looked horrible all preseason.

Morris is a gamer.

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3 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

I'm just a little skeptical. They thought Walker was better than Stephen Morris until preseason games showed otherwise. Some people are better during games. Bostic looked horrible all preseason.

there are real hits in games, not so much in practice

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9 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:

Do you mean tell me we have Richardson as a running back...lol

 

If he makes the team they will assign him #34, to make up for those who bought Trent jerseys :)

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