Colts Roster Moves (Countdown to 53)

[oldunclemark]

12 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Fans are the only people who care about rivalries 

Very true.

[coltsfan77]

Think people are upset because it was to the pats. We don't like the idea of them making him the player we all were hoping for. That will also make them even better. They lost Edelman and possibly another offensive weapon and we may have helped them reload! It is what it is though!

[IinD]

I really thought Ayers was a useable piece...oh well.

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

He's a long term project

Then that means that Tolz stays around for another contract?  We need a quality backup next year if not.

[Jackie Daytona]

Tolzien is 29, Brissett is 24,  Brissett has potential...... Tolzien has a career TD-INT ratio of 1 to 5 and no untapped potential left....... he is what he is, Jim Sorgi basically...... Brissett could be our next Matt Hasselbeck...... and is under contract on the rookie scale for 3 more seasons....

[Flash7]

2 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

That's the point of trades.  without it, the Colts would never be able to acquire Brissett, and the patriots would never get a shot to acquire Dorsett.  Both of these guys would be claimed off waivers well before the Colts and Pats had a chance to claim them.

I don't think Dorset would have been waived.

 

Tolzien is the week 1 starter with Brisett starting week 2 and after. Luck will remain on the PUP. That's why we got the short end of this trade. We are desperate for a quality starter. This is the only way it makes sense.

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Then that means that Tolz stays around for another contract?  We need a quality backup next year if not.

I wouldn't worry about next year's backup QB.....I really wouldnt

[1959Colts]

Colts save $2,100,000 by cutting Ayers

https://overthecap.com/player/akeem-ayers/1693

[Jackie Daytona]

4 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Very true.

Fans...... and Russell Westbrook, but that's for another forum..... lol

[oldunclemark]

Just now, Flash7 said:

I don't think Dorset would have been waived.

 

Tolzien is the week 1 starter with Brisett starting week 2 and after. Luck will remain on the PUP. That's why we got the short end of this trade. We are desperate for a quality starter. This is the only way it makes sense.

Brissett isn't starting week 2 or any week this year

[TKnight24]

 

[oldunclemark]

Just now, 1959Colts said:

Colts save $2,100,000 by cutting Ayers

https://overthecap.com/player/akeem-ayers/1693

There you go '59!

[Jackie Daytona]

2.1 mil.....there's the reason Ayers was cut, you can get his lvl of production for near league minimum

[Flash7]

Just now, oldunclemark said:

Brissett isn't starting week 2 or any week this year

You may be right, I agree that he is not good and not worthy of the trade, however, I believe that's what the plan is.

[jvan1973]

Just now, oldunclemark said:

Brissett isn't starting week 2 or any week this year

I wouldn't be too sure about that.  They could have picked up any number of warm bodies to be the third string qb.  They traded for brissett

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

I wouldn't be too sure about that.  They could have picked up any number of warm bodies to be the third string qb.  They traded for brissett

Brissett will move pass ST or SM very soon

[TKnight24]

 

[Jackie Daytona]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

I wouldn't be too sure about that.  They could have picked up any number of warm bodies to be the third string qb.  They traded for brissett

Brissett is more physically capable of running the same Offense as Luck than any QB we had, if nothing else, he will minimize the necessary changes to the PB should Luck miss time over the next few y ears....

[jvan1973]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Brissett will move pass ST or SM very soon

Or both

[oldunclemark]

Just now, Flash7 said:

You may be right, I agree that he is not good and not worthy of the trade, however, I believe that's what the plan is.

Flash man...Our plan is Andrew Luck....and Scott Tolzien........

I dont hink we're staring anybody else in unless both are injured..

 

Brissett..is raw and he ...doesn't know anything about our offense

[MB-ColtsFan]

4 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

I wouldn't worry about next year's backup QB.....I really wouldnt

Agree.  Not worried, just pointing out that, if he's a "long term" project then we haven't truly filled a need.

[Jackie Daytona]

Ballard seems to be storing up a good amount of cap space with his cuts so far...... 2.1 mil for Ayers, Dorsett was making more than Brissett by virtue of draft position......   Spence cut saved a mil as well no?   I think he has his eye on bringing a few guys in.....

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

I wouldn't be too sure about that.  They could have picked up any number of warm bodies to be the third string qb.  They traded for brissett

J, he doenst know the offense...

 

Maybe you're right about late in the year....But Andrew not being able to play late this year is so dark a prospect I don't want to even think about it

[ColtsBlueFL]

13 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

No. Jacoby Brissett isn't better than Tolzien.  Brisset is a project

 

 

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4805338/jacoby-brissett-showed-his-value-to-patriots-as-no-3-quarterback

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, Shafty138 said:

Ballard seems to be storing up a good amount of cap space with his cuts so far...... 2.1 mil for Ayers, Dorsett was making more than Brissett by virtue of draft position......   

Got some money back by cutting Spence too

[jvan1973]

Just now, oldunclemark said:

J, he doenst know the offense...

 

Maybe you're right about late in the year....But Andrew not being able to play late this year is so dark a prospect I don't want to even think about it

They traded for him for a reason.   

[Flash7]

Just now, oldunclemark said:

Flash man...Our plan is Andrew Luck....and Scott Tolzien........

I dont hink we're staring anybody else in unless both are injured..

 

Brissett..is raw and he ...doesn't know anything about our offense

Of course our plan is Luck. It's not Tolzien, nor should it be. He's below average. The Colts could pay me to check down every play.

 

I believe that Ballard thinks Brisett is an upgrade. Both of us do not. 

 

Ithink this his is a clear indication the Luck will remain on the PUP, and because of that, Ballard is looking for a future starter. Like you, I think he is wrong here.

[oldunclemark]

I think there's a second wave of this cutdown 'frenzy'

....You get to the limit and then you so shopping for bargains.

 

Is it true that players on your roster week one must be paid for the entire year./

Players picked up after week one do NOT have to be paid for the entire season.

 

Am I right about that.?

 

 

[Jackie Daytona]

1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4805338/jacoby-brissett-showed-his-value-to-patriots-as-no-3-quarterback

 

because he's behind Tom Brady, and a dude who half the teams in the league would give a legit shot at starting, he's worse than Scott Tolzien?

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

J, he doenst know the offense...

 

Maybe you're right about late in the year....But Andrew not being able to play late this year is so dark a prospect I don't want to even think about it

It won't take More than a few weeks to learn the O

[ColtsBlueFL]

12 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

He's a long term project

 

He's a young, backup, with talent and starter potential.  Just what we need behind luck.  not UDFA hopefuls or journeymen. I'm OK with this.

[PrincetonTiger]

If JB is such a bum why did BB trust him to start 2 games last year when TB was out

[oldunclemark]

3 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

They traded for him for a reason.   

Yeah but I'm not sure I see what it is.

Is there any good scenario where Jacoby Brissett is the starting QB for the Colts?

[TKnight24]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

If JB is such a bum why did BB trust him to start 2 games last year when TB was out

Cause BB is the greatest coach of all-time in any sport loll

 

He could pick one of us off this forum and have us looking like a stud

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

He's a young, backup, with talent and starter potential.  Just what we need behind luck.  not UDFA hopefuls or journeymen. I'm OK with this.

starter potential is the phrase I question

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

If JB is such a bum why did BB trust him to start 2 games last year when TB was out

didnt have a choice, did he?  Top 2 were out

[Flash7]

1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

He's a young, backup, with talent and starter potential.  Just what we need behind luck.  not UDFA hopefuls or journeymen. I'm OK with this.

I think this is where we may differ. I don't see him as a young talent. I see him as a project and someone that's benefitted from the NE system. I project that he will not be nearly as good with the Colts, as most NE QBs struggle mightily once they leave.

[TKnight24]

 

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

Yeah but I'm not sure I see what it is.

Is there any good scenario where Jacoby Brissett is the starting QB for the Colts?

Not that I can see.   But the front office clearly thinks a lot of him

[oldunclemark]

4 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

It won't take More than a few weeks to learn the O

Listen to PT....

 

Brissett is long term and only if Andrew is disabled seriously