Clayton Geathers to LB?

[MPStack]

Kevin Bowen of Colts.com suggested Indianapolis could move S Clayton Geathers to linebacker.

DC Ted Monachino seemed intrigued by the idea when asked about it during the season. "That’s an excellent question," Monachino said. "We have to find ways to continue to keep him going and being productive because he has the ability to make a bunch of plays." Geathers is a 220-pound missile who has been a solid run defender from the safety position, but durability could be a concern at linebacker after he was limited to nine games by a neck injury. For what it is worth, the Colts have needs at both linebacker and safety.

I know it's been discussed and he played in some sub packages last season at LB. If this happens, the safety position will serious, seriously need to be addressed this year. 

[DarkHorse]

I think he would be good at linebacker but if you move that opens up the hole in the back field for safety which is already in need . But it would be interesting

[Andrew Luck fan club]

I think he stays at safety. And Ballard brings in actual ILB's.

[PeterBowman]

or maybe using him as LB in certain instances and safety at others......good to have flexibility. Could be situational.

[lollygagger8]

I do think Geathers is awesome, and the missile comment is accurate. Unfortunately, I think his history of getting injured would very likely increase if he were moved to LB exclusively.

 

Leave him in the enforcer type role at Safety, and have him cover TE's. 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

7 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

I do think Geathers is awesome, and the missile comment is accurate. Unfortunately, I think his history of getting injured would very likely increase if he were moved to LB exclusively.

 

Leave him in the enforcer type role at Safety, and have him cover TE's. 

This is exactly right. At 220 he will get killed by linemen, leave him free to roam!

[krunk]

God forbid he could actually gain 10lbs!  That just can't happen right?  LOL

[MacDee1975]

Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

He's mad of glass as of right now.  I don't want to see how that experiment ends.  

[twfish]

I think Geathers will prove to be a very good Strong Safety for us for years as long as his neck doesn't turn out to be something really bad. I'd rather keep him where he is

[Smonroe]

2 hours ago, MPStack said:

Kevin Bowen of Colts.com suggested Indianapolis could move S Clayton Geathers to linebacker.

DC Ted Monachino seemed intrigued by the idea when asked about it during the season. "That’s an excellent question," Monachino said. "We have to find ways to continue to keep him going and being productive because he has the ability to make a bunch of plays." Geathers is a 220-pound missile who has been a solid run defender from the safety position, but durability could be a concern at linebacker after he was limited to nine games by a neck injury. For what it is worth, the Colts have needs at both linebacker and safety.

I know it's been discussed and he played in some sub packages last season at LB. If this happens, the safety position will serious, seriously need to be addressed this year. 

 

I just want to know who's picture you're using as an avatar.

[MPStack]

Just now, Smonroe said:

 

I just want to know who's picture you're using as an avatar.

 

My hero, one John C. Holmes.

[ztboiler]

He's a box safety and dime LB....not that much difference in the modern game.  We're too quick to define everything in yesterday's lingo

[Smonroe]

Just now, MPStack said:

My hero, one John C. Holmes.

 

LOL!  I thought it looked famil...er, I mean, I never heard of him.

[MPStack]

Just now, Smonroe said:

 

LOL!  I thought it looked famil...er, I mean, I never heard of him.

 

Yeah, right it looked familiar.... LOL!!!!!! 

[richard pallo]

11 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

LOL!  I thought it looked famil...er, I mean, I never heard of him.

Probably before your time.

[richard pallo]

I would prefer he stays at safety.  I trust Ballard to find the linebackers.

[GoColts8818]

He has issues staying healthy at safety I think moving him to linebacker would only make those issues worse.

[Smonroe]

11 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Probably before your time.

 

Sure.  Let's go with that. (Says the guy who cried while watching SB3 on TV)

[aaron11]

i still think hes a safety, based mostly on his weight

 

even the under sized line backers have a good 15-20 pounds on him

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

2 hours ago, krunk said:

God forbid he could actually gain 10lbs!  That just can't happen right?  LOL

he could 10 pounds on some guys changes there game and they become slower.

[COLTS449]

I see it as a possibility. Especially if we draft a safety early, sign Berry, Green turns into a good football player, re-sign Adams, Butler at S permanently, etc. A lot of possibilities. I wouldn't do it personally, I've wondered if we may try it, but  I want him at SS. Let him play to his strengths, Hard hitting, enforcer type, coming down making big first down saving tackles, blitzing the QB here and there, etc. He's got the potential to be a really god SS IMO.....If we have a true roaming coverage safety (Berry?) next to him. So yeah we need to bring in some true ILB's. Zach Brown, Hightower, etc if we go the FA route. We'll have to sign an ILB or draft one early. There's 2-3 guys I like in that 2nd-3rd range. Zach Cunningham seems to be falling out of the latest first round mocks so maybe he's a possibility in the 2nd. I just hope Cunningham and Davis don't both go before our 2nd round pick. Maybe the injuries cause Anzalone to fall to the 4th? McMillian is probably a 3rd rounder, I like Anthony Walker in the 4th if he's there. Maybe Davis or Cunningham in the 2nd then Walker/Anzalone/Beckwith/Lee in the 3rd or 4th? As for Beckwith I'm good with 1 down hill thumping run stuffer as long as we have an all around ILB with elite coverage skills next to him (Cunningham). We can get a starting ILB, maybe both in this draft. But one kid I keep coming back to is Jalen Reeves Maybin. If he's healthy he's going to be this years Deion Jones. So in the end I'd grab an ILB in the 2nd-3rd, then JRM in the 5th or maybe our last 4th if his stock has risen and he's 100%.I think he can be a steal in the 5th or maybe even 6th. I just really have no clue where he may go. IMO he's a 2nd-3rd round talent, but injuries have derailed that. I mean I could see a team taking a shot with him in the late 3rd or I could see him fall to the 6th. We'll have to see how it plays out with him. So keep Geathers where's at and hope he stays healthy and gives us at least 13-14 games, and with better players around him our D will be much better.

[throwing BBZ]

5 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

I see it as a possibility. Especially if we draft a safety early, sign Berry, Green turns into a good football player, re-sign Adams, Butler at S permanently, etc. A lot of possibilities. But the more I think about it the more I want him at SS. Let him play to his strengths, Hard hitting, enforcer type, coming down making big first down saving tackles, blitzing the QB here and there, etc. He's got the potential to be a really god SS IMO.....If we have a true roaming coverage safety (Berry?) next to him. So yeah we need to bring in some true ILB's. Zach Brown, Hightower, etc if we go the FA route. We'll have to sign an ILB or draft one early. There's 2-3 guys I like in that 2nd-3rd range. Zach Cunningham seems to be falling out of the latest first round mocks so maybe he's a possibility in the 2nd. I just hope Cunningham and Davis don't both go before our 2nd round pick. Maybe the injuries cause Anzalone to fall to the 4th? McMillian is probably a 3rd rounder, I like Anthony Walker in the 4th if he's there. Maybe Davis or Cunningham in the 2nd then Walker/Anzalone/Beckwith/Lee in the 3rd or 4th? As for Beckwith I'm good with 1 down hill thumping run stuffer as long as we have an all around ILB with elite coverage skills next to him (Cunningham). We can get a starting ILB, maybe both in this draft. But one kid I keep coming back to is Jalen Reeves Maybin. If he's healthy he's going to be this years Deion Jones. So in the end I'd grab an ILB in the 2nd-3rd, then JRM in the 5th or maybe our last 4th if his stock has risen and he's 100%.I think he can be a steal in the 5th or maybe even 6th. So keep Geathers where's at and hope he stays healthy and gives us at least 13-14 games.

 

  This is what a whole pot of coffee can do to you! 

[KB]

I hope he's able to play in general. Neck injuries are no joke. Ask Delano Howell.

[COLTS449]

5 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

  This is what a whole pot of coffee can do to you! 

 

Don't drink coffee BBZ. Mello Yello, Mountain Dew, Coke a Cola, Gatorade, etc. Its fun being a naturally jacked up, hyper individual. .................

[AKB]

I don't like the idea of pulling him away from SS. Unless we have someone to replace him, and not to mention he would have to throw on a good amount of weight. 

[tikyle]

3 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

He has issues staying healthy at safety I think moving him to linebacker would only make those issues worse.

 

This.  Having him have to shed blocks and be near the line for every running play can't be positive for his health outlook.  That would be the only concern I would have with this decision.  The NFL has shown it's easier to find a S than a coverage LB.

[NewEra]

To small to move inside. Especially in a 3-4. The added weight also could lose speed. Also could cause more injury. Hard to say.

 

ive added over 50#'s of muscle and I can definitely tell the difference in everything. I know we train different but I also get injuried more and more frequent with the heavier lifting. Okay okay, age may be a factor also heh

[krunk]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

To small to move inside. Especially in a 3-4. The added weight also could lose speed. Also could cause more injury. Hard to say.

 

ive added over 50#'s of muscle and I can definitely tell the difference in everything. I know we train different but I also get injuried more and more frequent with the heavier lifting. Okay okay, age may be a factor also heh

10lbs is not too much on a 6'2" frame.

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

1 hour ago, krunk said:

10lbs is not too much on a 6'2" frame.

It is if you have never weighed that much before!! He is a safety maybe a good one. I would prefer him not taking on OG's head on. Lets find a guy who has played IIB who's good. I like the idea of bringing in the box as an IIB on PASSING DOWNS.

[TheRustonRifle#7]

6 hours ago, MPStack said:

Yeah, right it looked familiar.... LOL!!!!!! 

He wasn't looking at his face....,,,I mean that with all due respect as he is a great person!  Meaning SMonroe

 

 

[TheRustonRifle#7]

I like him at Safety and used at ILB in nickle packages.

[Defjamz26]

The only thing is it creates 1 less hole at ILB but 1 more while at safety. That'd mean Ballard would need to draft 2 safeties in the draft. But there's enough opportunities in FA and the draft to make it work I believe. If we move him I think he plays WILL and you draft a guy like McMillan in the 3rd round to play Mike. WILL should be better for his health long term. Then in the draft grab Buddha Baker (FS) and Obi Melifonwu (SS). Or Josh Johnson round 4 at FS.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Most-improved second-year safeties

Landon Collins, @Giants +33.7

2015:  58.0 2016: 91.7

 

Clayton Geathers, @Colts +26.0

2015: 55.3 2016: 81.3

 

Does anyone know anything at all about his neck? 

[coltsfeva]

I saw where Belicheck's uses 5 DBs 80% of the time. I agree with using him as a hybrid on passing downs but keeping the offense guessing- mixing it up with where he lines up. 

[jbaron04]

22 hours ago, DarkHorse said:

I think he would be good at linebacker but if you move that opens up the hole in the back field for safety which is already in need . But it would be interesting

It's doesn't matter if his depth chart position say Lb or ss or fs . You could still move him wear ever you need him. In theory if green turns in the player he has potential to be we could run a 3-3-5 defensive with Clayton being that close to the line cover te guy etc... 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

3 hours ago, Majin Vegeta said:

Most-improved second-year safeties

Landon Collins, @Giants +33.7

2015:  58.0 2016: 91.7

 

Clayton Geathers, @Colts +26.0

2015: 55.3 2016: 81.3

 

Does anyone know anything at all about his neck? 

 

He said in an interview with Holder that it's not a long-term injury. I guess I wouldn't expect him to say "man my neck's screwed," but I'd guess that he'll be ready for OTAs.

 

It's funny that these 2 are basically identical, and people are still upset we didn't take Collins, and on top of that, want to convert Geathers to LB.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

20 hours ago, COLTS449 said:

I see it as a possibility. Especially if we draft a safety early, sign Berry, Green turns into a good football player, re-sign Adams, Butler at S permanently, etc. A lot of possibilities. I wouldn't do it personally, I've wondered if we may try it, but  I want him at SS. Let him play to his strengths, Hard hitting, enforcer type, coming down making big first down saving tackles, blitzing the QB here and there, etc. He's got the potential to be a really god SS IMO.....If we have a true roaming coverage safety (Berry?) next to him. So yeah we need to bring in some true ILB's. Zach Brown, Hightower, etc if we go the FA route. We'll have to sign an ILB or draft one early. There's 2-3 guys I like in that 2nd-3rd range. Zach Cunningham seems to be falling out of the latest first round mocks so maybe he's a possibility in the 2nd. I just hope Cunningham and Davis don't both go before our 2nd round pick. Maybe the injuries cause Anzalone to fall to the 4th? McMillian is probably a 3rd rounder, I like Anthony Walker in the 4th if he's there. Maybe Davis or Cunningham in the 2nd then Walker/Anzalone/Beckwith/Lee in the 3rd or 4th? As for Beckwith I'm good with 1 down hill thumping run stuffer as long as we have an all around ILB with elite coverage skills next to him (Cunningham). We can get a starting ILB, maybe both in this draft. But one kid I keep coming back to is Jalen Reeves Maybin. If he's healthy he's going to be this years Deion Jones. So in the end I'd grab an ILB in the 2nd-3rd, then JRM in the 5th or maybe our last 4th if his stock has risen and he's 100%.I think he can be a steal in the 5th or maybe even 6th. I just really have no clue where he may go. IMO he's a 2nd-3rd round talent, but injuries have derailed that. I mean I could see a team taking a shot with him in the late 3rd or I could see him fall to the 6th. We'll have to see how it plays out with him. So keep Geathers where's at and hope he stays healthy and gives us at least 13-14 games, and with better players around him our D will be much better.

 

There's literally zero reason to move Geathers away from a position that he plays really well. 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

@Majin Vegeta I know you already posted this, but I thought it would be good for everyone to see it's per PFF.

[BullsColtsFan1]

I am not sure how I feel about this.  I think I'd be ok with him staying at safety or moving to LB. I am just not sure how I feel about it.  It depends on the draft I suppose.