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Awesome news regarding TRich's contract: Colts can walk away from his ~$3M guaranteed because of suspension.


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Right, Gordon wasn't paid for enough games this year to accrue a season. It was him being suspended without pay for the last game that made it the case. He was only paid for 5 games, instead of the 6 need to accrue a season. 

 

His is a completely different situation than TRich, however. I'd be interested to see the language in TRich's contract. This almost sounds to good to be true/too convenient. That said, there's rumblings from local media that there is much more to the story, like him being escorted out of the complex by force prior to missing walk through. IDK...this could get interesting. 

 

If they kept him from walkthrough, that's a different story.

 

But yes, the difference between this and the Gordon situation is still that this appears to be related to specific language in Richardson's contract, not a collectively bargained league rule.

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The assumption being he could argue that he was suspended just so they could easily get out from under his contract without having to pay him. 

Once you sign a legal document from a student loan, to a car loan, to a player's contract, you agree to abide by all the jargon contained within that contract.

 

Ergo, Trent Richardson has no grievance, no recourse, & no legal leg to stand on.  Kiss that $3,000,000 goodbye.  Conditions to opt out of payment are always well laid out.

 

That's what agents & lawyers are paid for by professional athletes to give their clients the complete picture. The franchise's obligations, your obligations, & what a failure to meet that requirement stipulates. 

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He obviously missed the walkthrough, which is grounds for suspension.  However, what are folks' thoughts on him being suspended, then cut without pay if he missed the walkthrough because he had a very serious family emergency?

 

*Disregard - I missed AntonMcG's post.

 

I f he had a real family emergency, he can call in to inform the he would miss in advance.  He could still be suspended  but be on record as to why and having given notification.  I don't believe he did that, so he was expected there at walk through rather than being excused.

 

As far as the rest, TRich contract has outplayed him IME.

 

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And then the case would be won by the colts who have Richardson on file admitting he missed the walkthrough

I'm not saying he would win. I'm just saying that he could do it. And it all depends on precedent. Have others missed a walkthrough and not been suspended? He could have a case if he can prove that happened and they have no other reasoning behind it. Thornton was late to one, apparently buzzed or something, earlier this year and he was still active, though didn't play, in the game. 

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Sad that TRICH never caught on in Indy...

Wonder if & who gives him his next shot???

& wonder if he crushes it for them like some seem to do upon leaving the Colts???

Then I wonder how many posters will blame Grigson for letting the guy go???

I hope the guy the best...

Keep your powder dry Trent!!!

In this case, I don't think anyone would blame Grigson if.... (Very big If) Trent goes somewhere and plays great

I use to defend him. But after watching Bradshaw & Boom.... Shoot even Tipton with his small sample size looked better than Trent. There's just no other excuse you can make for the guy

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I'm not saying he would win. I'm just saying that he could do it. And it all depends on precedent. Have others missed a walkthrough and not been suspended? He could have a case if he can prove that happened and they have no other reasoning behind it. Thornton was late to one, apparently buzzed or something, earlier this year and he was still active, though didn't play, in the game.

I get what you're saying, but an appeal would be pointless

Gordon was suspended when he missed the practice when they said he was partying with Money Manziel. Manziel would've been suspended too but he was on IR by then so.... Yeah

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I'm sure he didn't like being demoted. Which in turn caused him to get suspended. I was fully behind him and for the trade but he hasn't brought anything to the table. Especially anything that proves he deserves to start. Sorry bud, you wouldn't get demoted if you played better.

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I'm sure he didn't like being demoted. Which in turn caused him to get suspended. I was fully behind him and for the trade but he hasn't brought anything to the table. Especially anything that proves he deserves to start. Sorry bud, you wouldn't get demoted if you played better.

Mmmmm..... Shipley got demoted for playing well, but that's another story for another day

But I will say the guy K. Holmes looks to be SOLID

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In this case, I don't think anyone would blame Grigson if.... (Very big If) Trent goes somewhere and plays great

I use to defend him. But after watching Bradshaw & Boom.... Shoot even Tipton with his small sample size looked better than Trent. There's just no other excuse you can make for the guy

Questionable around these parts, there is that Jerry Hughes guy out there...

 

& I wasn't trying to make an excuse for the guy, he never seemed to get it for whatever reason, vision, burst, whatever...

 

I don't know about what made him miss walkthroughs, or his suspension whether it was pouting or if he had any legitimate reasons (I expect he was just pouting), but I guess I'm just not gonna cheer for a guy losing his job when a big theme this week around here has been integrity and morality...

But you are right Boom & Tipton seemed to be able to at least produce as well as Trent...

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So was this not true?

 

Trent Richardson's mother died this weekend, just hours after the Indianapolis Colts running back missed a team walk-through

 

IF that is in fact true and the Colts decide to send him walking without pay because of that missed walk through I as a fan of the Colt organization would be more than a bit put off!

Don't you get punished when you miss work unannounced?

NOT if there is a family emergency! My employer would be more than understanding in those cases!

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So was this not true?

 

Trent Richardson's mother died this weekend, just hours after the Indianapolis Colts running back missed a team walk-through

 

IF that is in fact true and the Colts decide to send him walking without pay because of that missed walk through I as a fan of the Colt organization would be more than a bit put off!

NOT if there is a family emergency! My employer would be more than understanding in those cases!

 

Was that true about his mother?  I never saw it reported on any of the sports news sites.

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So was this not true?

Trent Richardson's mother died this weekend, just hours after the Indianapolis Colts running back missed a team walk-through

IF that is in fact true and the Colts decide to send him walking without pay because of that missed walk through I as a fan of the Colt organization would be more than a bit put off!

NOT if there is a family emergency! My employer would be more than understanding in those cases!

that was not true. his mom is alive

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So was this not true?

 

Trent Richardson's mother died this weekend, just hours after the Indianapolis Colts running back missed a team walk-through

 

IF that is in fact true and the Colts decide to send him walking without pay because of that missed walk through I as a fan of the Colt organization would be more than a bit put off!

NOT if there is a family emergency! My employer would be more than understanding in those cases!

 

 

If this really did happen I think it was cold blooded of the Colts for sure.   I don't think they are that type of organization so I am waiting for more information definitely.

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I feel bad for Trent on a personal level.  Ideally, I would have loved for him to have worked out for us.  However, the fact of the matter is that he was underwhelming during his stay here and it's time for the Colts to cut their losses. I am glad that the Colts seem to be moving on and able to now save money while doing so.   With that said...I wish Trent all the best going forward and hope he is able to perform well elsewhere. 

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If this really did happen I think it was cold blooded of the Colts for sure.   I don't think they are that type of organization so I am waiting for more information definitely.

 

It seems pretty obvious that his mom didn't die.

 

If the Colts manufactured a reason for Richardson to miss the walkthrough -- like changing the time at the last minute when they knew he'd be at the hospital with a family member or something like that -- that's a different story, and I'm sure it would come out. But it's been a week, and nothing like that has leaked. Richardson has even contacted members of the media to tell them that he didn't just skip walkthrough for no reason, so it would probably have been his priority to let everyone know if the team did something like that. 

 

It seems like, for whatever reason, Trent missed walkthrough and didn't tell anyone in advance, emergency or not, and was suspended. The team hasn't used any out-clause at this point, so it's premature to talk about what is and isn't coldblooded. All we know for sure is that he was suspended by the team for two games.

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Sad that TRICH never caught on in Indy...

Wonder if & who gives him his next shot???

& wonder if he crushes it for them like some seem to do upon leaving the Colts???

Then I wonder how many posters will blame Grigson for letting the guy go???

 

I hope the guy the best...

Keep your powder dry Trent!!!

any team with a good o-line would love him, hoody will probably grab him just to show us.

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sucks for him, I remember reading when he struggled his first year with the team he was a good team player and a hard worker.

Wonder what happened...

also, I bet they give him a chance to earn a spot next year and cut him if he doesn't.

He might still be a hard worker, but the NFL isn't cut out for everyone.

I'm very glad to hear this news though.

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Patriots are going to pick him up and he'll destroy us.

 

Just watch. 

My grandmother, rest her soul, could destroy us by rushing....so I'm not real concerned about TRich coming back to destroy us.

 

For those of you literal folks who can't read between the lines:  My Grandmother is dead, she isn't coming back to put up 200 yards rushing on us, so relax.  We let no name running backs to it to us regularly, so why would TRich be any different.

 

In fact, TRich thinks he is a good running back.  Why is that???  I'll tell you why.  It is because he practices against our run defense.  That is why.

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I don't think it falls under the same category.

 

Gordon was suspended by the league, not the Browns. And it was a drug-related suspension, which I believe it has to be for future guarantees to be automatically voided.

 

Richardson was suspended by the team. Technically, a team could suspend any player at the end of the year and void their future guarantees. The Bears could have suspended Jay Cutler in order to get out of his contract.

 

I'm sort of talking out of my butt here, because I haven't looked up the specific rules and I don't know the particulars of Richardson's contract, but according to what Mark Dominik tweeted (this is the former GM of the Bucs, right?), there is specific language in Richardson's contract that allows for his guarantees to be voided in the event of a suspension. That would be separate from the league rule, as that language wouldn't be needed in a player contract; it's a league rule. So it could apply to non drug-related suspensions. It could also be specific to suspensions stemming from arrests or violent acts or something like that. I'm assuming again, but I don't think Dominik would tweet something like this, something that really doesn't involve him or a player on his former team, unless he has seen the contract.

 

My instincts says this is part of the standard contract for 1st rounders per the new CBA.   I think that's how Dominick knows.  Not sure why else he would have access to Trent's contract.

 

But if it's standard NFL rookie language,  then that would be why Dominick knows....    That's my read,  but again, it's just my hunch....

 

And, yes,  I'd expect a very strong and loud NFLPA fight on this....

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