StewieG Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I thought outside of his good tackling, he was pretty poor in his coverage.Am I the only one who thought this? Powers played awful, but Davis was just meh to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Davis has been here two weeks. This isn't a video game guys don't just pick up a new defense overnight. It will take him a couple of weeks just like Dierdorf brought up on the broadcast. Also Davis isn't the first CB that Brandon Marshall has eaten alive and wont be the last.Frankly if we get Freeney back and get our pass rush back I think you'll see a large improvement in the play of both Davis and Powers. Like Collinsworth has brought up in the past cornerbacks can hold up in coverage for about 3 to 5 seconds in the NFL. Anything beyond that and you are asking a lot. That's why you notice teams that win in the NFL have a great pass rush. You have to be able to get to QBs if you can't they are going to sit back there and pick you apart in today's NFL.Davis and Powers didn't have great games today but I would give them a couple of weeks and watch the pass rush up front for a few weeks before I am too hard on them. Keep in mind Powers is making a change too he's going form playing a Cover-2 defense to playing a more man-to-man defense and that's not always the easiest thing in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieG Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Davis has been here two weeks. This isn't a video game guys don't just pick up a new defense overnight. It will take him a couple of weeks just like Dierdorf brought up on the broadcast. Also Davis isn't the first CB that Brandon Marshall has eaten alive and wont be the last.Frankly if we get Freeney back and get our pass rush back I think you'll see a large improvement in the play of both Davis and Powers. Like Collinsworth has brought up in the past cornerbacks can hold up in coverage for about 3 to 5 seconds in the NFL. Anything beyond that and you are asking a lot. That's why you notice teams that win in the NFL have a great pass rush. You have to be able to get to QBs if you can't they are going to sit back there and pick you apart in today's NFL.Davis and Powers didn't have great games today but I would give them a couple of weeks and watch the pass rush up front for a few weeks before I am too hard on them. Keep in mind Powers is making a change too he's going form playing a Cover-2 defense to playing a more man-to-man defense and that's not always the easiest thing in the NFL.I know it will take him a while to get the defense and such, but that doesn't excuse him getting burned.But he did to better than Powers, which isn't really saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I know it will take him a while to get the defense and such, but that doesn't excuse him getting burned.But he did to better than Powers, which isn't really saying much.Umm it kinda does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stat2883 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 how was he burned? blown assignment, or biting on play fakes and double moves....or other? Depending on how, it could point to not being comfortable in the scheme, lack of discipline, or just plain being outplayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaron04 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 how was he burned? blown assignment, or biting on play fakes and double moves....or other? Depending on how, it could point to not being comfortable in the scheme, lack of discipline, or just plain being outplayed. just out matched by marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Honestly, I think we made more mental mistakes than being we just got outplayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Powers was covering Marshall...Davis covering Jeffery and gave up one big play. Davis played well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtJ82 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Combination of things. First, the pass rush was completely non-existent after the 1st Quarter. Second, Marshall is not only fast, but tall. It is hard to keep up with his strides...and he runs decent routes. Cutler was throwing to a spot on a lot of the routes. His release is extremely fast and he has a cannon.....extremely difficult for anyone to cover......even if they could, it would be terribly difficult to hold coverage for very long without pressuring the QB.Davis will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Powers was covering Marshall...Davis covering Jeffery and gave up one big play. Davis played well...They were mixing it up depending on what side of the field Marshall was lining up on. I know for a fact the TD pass to Marshall came against Davis for example. Not that Davis could have done much on that play it's just an example of a play where Davis was on Marshall.When you have a good QB and a good WR sometimes they get in rhythm and it doesn't matter who you have playing CB they can't do much to stop it. That was the case at times today. Generally the only way you can stop that is to knock them out of it and normally the only way you can do that is to get the QB before he throws the ball which has nothing to do with the CB. If you don't have a pass rush like the Colts didn't have today after Freeney left the game your goose is normally cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Lets see how he does next week against the Vikings where, outside of Harvin I can barely name another receiver on their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Americolt Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 People seem to forget that Powers was covering his guy well. Marshall just shields him away from the ball with his big 6 4' frame. It's incredibly difficult for ANY CB to defend a perfectly thrown ball where only the WR can get it. That almost INT he had was great coverage and would've been a thing of beauty of he held on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Lets see how he does next week against the Vikings where, outside of Harvin I can barely name another receiver on their team.Devin Aromashodu, Stephen Burton, Michael Jenkins, Jarius Wright....there is a reason that it is hard to name a lot of Vikings receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Devin Aromashodu, Stephen Burton, Michael Jenkins, Jarius Wright....there is a reason that it is hard to name a lot of Vikings receivers.Hats off to Aromashodu I remember when we signed him in 2007 just out desperation and he has had a nice little career for himself. Clearly not a star WR in the NFL by any means but has lasted a lot longer than I think most would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I went to the Vikings website for that info btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Davis should have been on Marshall more. Not in the red zone though, use powers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elmo Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 If I was a Bears fan I would just be gushing over Marshall... I'm a Colts fan and I was almost gushing. He is TOP 5 TALENT at his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betheafan41 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I know it will take him a while to get the defense and such, but that doesn't excuse him getting burned.But he did to better than Powers, which isn't really saying much.from what i saw he was only burnt once. his biggest problem was PI calls, and a couple were just a small touch. in all honesty after freeney went down the defense went down with him. they had two great series at the beginning getting at cutler tearing through the line and defending the pass well and once that INT for a TD. DAvis will be fine in a week or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmort Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 from what i saw he was only burnt once. his biggest problem was PI calls, and a couple were just a small touch. in all honesty after freeney went down the defense went down with him. they had two great series at the beginning getting at cutler tearing through the line and defending the pass well and once that INT for a TD. DAvis will be fine in a week or twoI think he did fine. A PI call in the end zone with the ball on the 1 yd line doesn't really cost us anything, so I think he was more worried with controlling his receiver than getting called for a PI.. and the TD to Jeffery was more about a perfect throw by Cutler to a 6'3" receiver at the back of the end zone than him getting burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I know it will take him a while to get the defense and such, but that doesn't excuse him getting burned.But he did to better than Powers, which isn't really saying much.this isnt madden, even darrell revis gets burned on plays.. both CBs played well, and im sure pretty soon your gonna be praising how well he's playing.On another note im surprised at how well Powers covered marshall... anyone noticed that? Marshall made some great plays but powers was there to contend for the ball on a few plays.Was a bit odd how they put powers on marshall most plays and vontae on marhsall in the redzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyswagger Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I thought both played ok, but there were way too many pi calls. Marshall is a special reciever and when your defense is unable to put pressure on the qb, he becomes virtually unstoppable. Imagine having to try and cover that guy for five or six seconds, thats a lot to ask are guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Look at our penalties and turnovers, that about sums it up. then add in a coupld dropped passes (oh, you remember those too?), and a host of rockets thrown by Cutler and a hostile crowd. ........... it hurts BUT???? we will do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I thought outside of his good tackling, he was pretty poor in his coverage.Am I the only one who thought this? Powers played awful, but Davis was just meh to me.I know he just got here but he seemed really uncomfortable covering Marshall in the endzone. I'm officially worried about that fella. You don't put yourself behind a tall receiver when isolated with him in the endzone, something that his 'new arrival' status shouldn't have affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpete Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Just imagine if it was King starting and covering Marshall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feardaneard Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I thought outside of his good tackling, he was pretty poor in his coverage.Am I the only one who thought this? Powers played awful, but Davis was just meh to me.No there are many "the sky is falling" Colt fans around this board who believe the same thing. The guy just got here and he Is the best CB we have. He only had the task of covering possibly one of the top 5 receivers in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorptile Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Devin Aromashodu, Stephen Burton, Michael Jenkins, Jarius Wright....there is a reason that it is hard to name a lot of Vikings receivers. aromashodu is the only one im afraid of and that isnt saying much trust me. outside of harvin the only thing the colts D should be worried about is AD if we can contain him then we can win this game. same thing as with jacksonville. contain MJD adn we can win that game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I thought he played fairly well for only being with the team for about 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieG Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 I know he just got here but he seemed really uncomfortable covering Marshall in the endzone. I'm officially worried about that fella. You don't put yourself behind a tall receiver when isolated with him in the endzone, something that his 'new arrival' status shouldn't have affected.Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I thought he played fairly well for only being with the team for about 2 weeks.Meh....anyone could see that it wasn't proper technique for him to get behind Marshall in the corner of the endzone. Marshall ran the exact same quick route twice and both times Davis was out of position. Marshall is a beast, yes, but Davis played him horribly and got burned twice on a relatively easy route to intercede upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 All I know is, Marshall is scary good. I think Revis would have a hard time covering him.Crybaby Cutler has a rocket launcher arm, and combine that with Marshall's size and ability......if they both stay healthy, the Bears are going far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haseo15 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 He's been here two weeks going against a top 10 WR give him time to adjust and for the whole team to learn the Defense, remeber Arizona Defense did not start clicking till about week 8 last year. When the switched to the aggressive 3-4 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 All I know is, Marshall is scary good. I think Revis would have a hard time covering him.Crybaby Cutler has a rocket launcher arm, and combine that with Marshall's size and ability......if they both stay healthy, the Bears are going far this season.Marshall looked like a 6 '10 " High school center playing against the grade school teams at times Lolly!Two things I want to bring out on this subject of Vontae Davis. Did anyone else love how Coach Pagano took him on the sideline and was 'nurturing' him.....coaching him like a son? Pagano is a football coach...what a refreshing sight!Secondly: Since Davis knew Marshall from covering him on the practice field, it made me more disappointed with his performance. I am not going to bash him because he is two weeks in learning a new system. I wish he had covered a 'known commodity' better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smittywerb Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 He'll adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 He'll adjust.May be the best two word post ever....love the positive spin!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimirsaysdog Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I know it will take him a while to get the defense and such, but that doesn't excuse him getting burned.But he did to better than Powers, which isn't really saying much.corners get burned all the time all over the league. it's part of the job. the other guy gets paid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 First of all Davis didnt play that bad,hes not the only one BM burnt,Bm has something you cant replace,size and strength,if qb is given plenty of time to throw BM will win 99percent of the time over any corner IMO.Lets not forget we were playing a playoff caliber team on theyre home field,first game under a whole new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) First of all Davis didnt play that bad,hes not the only one BM burnt,Bm has something you cant replace,size and strength,if qb is given plenty of time to throw BM will win 99percent of the time over any corner IMO.Lets not forget we were playing a playoff caliber team on theyre home field,first game under a whole new system.Well stated Sir! I think some folks have forgotten the Bears were right there before Cutler went down last year. If they score over 21 points in a given week, they will challenge for the division. Of course the Pack and Lions may have a say in that too... Edited September 10, 2012 by BrentMc11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steagles Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 He's in a new defense, against a top 5 reciever. He'll be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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