Chappell reports sprained AC joint for Richardson (MERGE)

[1959Colts]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

He can come back this year,  but he can't attend practices

So he would be allowed to return this year? I assume after missing some required amount of games?

[gnet550]

42 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Yikes, doesn't sound good. 

This is just Josina trying to act like she knows what is going on like usual....she goggled it and hopes she is right...I wouldn't get too worried yet..

[jvan1973]

Just now, 1959Colts said:

So he would be allowed to return this year? I assume after missing some required amount of games?

Yes.  It used to be 8 games.  It may have changed

[1959Colts]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Chap said it’s on the table and and you can designate him to return he just has to miss at least four weeks if you do that.

Well all reports seem to agree, he will miss at least 4 games, so I would expect IR

[ukcolt12]

Think people are reading too much into him not finishing a game equals he's completely brittle and broken.

He was pulled game 1, pretty sure he could have come back out if it was truly on the line. Steichen said as much.

Game 2 concussion which gets everyone.

The injury yesterday though is a major concern.

I expect it's season ending 

 

[Moosejawcolt]

4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Stafford missed 19 games the first 2 seasons of his career

Good point, but one qb was drafted because of his athletic ability and how the coaches could use that athleticism to their best advantage. Really handcuffs the team when u wince ever time this guy gets hit.

[Moosejawcolt]

1 minute ago, gnet550 said:

This is just Josina trying to act like she knows what is going on like usual....she goggled it and hopes she is right...I wouldn't get too worried yet..

Could be right, but any injury to the throwing shoulder is concerning no matter the severity.

[MikeCurtis]

3 hours ago, IanColts22 said:

1 Month is 4 games he will be missing and I think that's great news we won't be making noise in the playoffs without AR getting the experience he needs.  Since he is out 4 games we might as well tank the season get a top 5 pick for next year.  But unless Minshew plays lights out and is the next brock purdy for the Colts then hey I'll take that too

Nah.   
 

We beat 2 very good teams with Minchew

 

Why in the world would you tank??

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Could be right, but any injury to the throwing shoulder is concerning no matter the severity.

The good news this isn’t a injury that usually effects the shoulder in the future. But it does seem like reinjury could be easier.

[DougDew]

41 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Too bad he cant get TDs the way Richardson does.  I dont think sam has the talent to win games in the league

For once, I'd like to see Sam get the full support of the team and the coaching staff for 6 games.  This is an evaluation/development season for everyone, and we know what Minshew is.

[jvan1973]

4 hours ago, IanColts22 said:

1 Month is 4 games he will be missing and I think that's great news we won't be making noise in the playoffs without AR getting the experience he needs.  Since he is out 4 games we might as well tank the season get a top 5 pick for next year.  But unless Minshew plays lights out and is the next brock purdy for the Colts then hey I'll take that too

[TrueBlue4ever]

Mantra - Run the Damn Ball! Stache at 68% completion rate  and doesn’t turn it over. Smart, quick release, playing awesome. 

We ran the ball on the Titans! Anything is possible. 
 

Jacksonville, it’s time we end the losing streak at their house. 

[Defjamz26]

3 hours ago, krunk said:

these types of thread are never complete without the good ole tank the season for draft picks recommendation! 

Everyone here is obsessed with the idea of getting MHJ lol.

[DougDew]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

There is nothing out of the ordinary here.

 

1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

Yeah, normally you go to your team doctor/specialist and they give you an initial opinion and then if they bring up surgery or more than a few weeks of rest they send you to one of the really well known specialist in that field and to get their opinion because they can afford it.  I also agree with you since it’s your rookie QB and it’s his throwing arm of course they are going to error on the side of caution and get him the best treatment they can before making any decisions.

Since the tweet said that AR was seeking multiple opinions, I assumed he was the driver of it.  If the tweet said that The Colts recommended that AR seek multiple (specialists) opinions, I would have assumed they were the driver of it.

[TrueBlue4ever]

10 minutes ago, DougDew said:

For once, I'd like to see Sam get the full support of the team and the coaching staff for 6 games.  This is an evaluation/development season for everyone, and we know what Minshew is.

I like the fact that the offensive line is doing what they are doing. With that backfield and the RPO option alive and well, a mobile QB, anything is possible 

[1959Colts]

2 hours ago, csmopar said:

I don’t know. I think Sam E with this coach may not be a total screw job.

I agree. As I said in the past, our biggest problem last year was the horrible O line blocking, and coaching. Ryan was bad, Foles was bad, Sam was bad... and probably, if we had him then, Minshew would have been bad. If forced to play, Ill take Sam as our 3rd stringer. We would have a chance to win games. The pass protection and run blocking is still the key.

 

[DougDew]

4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

I like the fact that the offensive line is doing what they are doing. With that backfield and the RPO option alive and well, a mobile QB, anything is possible 

Sure, and its not like our receivers are any different from the seasons where we had no deep passing game.  Sam could probably dink and dunk as well as Minshew and AR (who is not the most accurate short thrower), and run better than Minshew.

 

Sam's head isn't as good as Minshew's, but experience would likely help that.

[NFLfan]

48 minutes ago, luv_pony_express said:

 

From what I've read, a Grade 3 AC Separation involves tearing of both the acromioclavicular (AC) and coracoclavicular (CC) ligaments (a Grade 2 involves tearing of one of these).

 

But, obviously, take that with a grain of salt.  I have no idea about the severity of AR's injury and I'm assuredly not a doctor.

 

If he tore the ligaments, he might need surgery, as that is his throwing shoulder. The ligaments should not be loose.

 

I have had shoulder injuries -- they are very painful. I wince as I think about them. But people recover from them. Richardson will too.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Why would AR want to risk his long term earnings potential by coming back 3 or 4 games too soon?  I'm not calling the Colts evil or anything, but I think AR has more of a vested interest in his long term health than an NFL team does.

for the same reason he wasn’t sliding or going down early. He wants to compete and wants to play. If he can do that without surgery he will. 

[coming on strong]

3 hours ago, DoubleE Colt said:

Has any team been shown to have actually tanked a season.......I mean even if the top brass wanted it how do you go about convincing the players?!......"Hey guys, here's an idea...why don't you all just tank the season after 5 games and look terrible in the process therefore affecting your future chances financially so we can have high picks next year and hopefully replace a fair few of you while you all look worthless?......any takers?!"

You don’t convince the players you over rule the gm and make bad decisions on purpose. Like maybe firing a coach and installing a former player 

[GoColts8818]

29 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Everyone here is obsessed with the idea of getting MHJ lol.

Yeah did you see his dad here lol.  No I get it he’s not the only WR in the draft.

[gnet550]

51 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Could be right, but any injury to the throwing shoulder is concerning no matter the severity.

Absolutely can agree there...concerning for sure.  Not a huge fan of Josina though, tends to try and be first and chicken little on things...

[AwesomeAustin]

32 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Everyone here is obsessed with the idea of getting MHJ lol.

I think every team and their fan base wants that guy. He is that good. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, 1959Colts said:

He sure did well against us in OT last week

Yes he did, I give him all the credit in the world. He is still a good QB and has had a very good career with good stats and a Ring. The Rams beat us fair and square. I just wish more people would give us the same credit for beating teams like at Baltimore and beating Tennessee. Instead, a certain few make up excuses for the other team to why we win, instead of giving us credit. We weren't favored in either of those games, Baltimore was a 6 point favorite and Tennessee was a 2.5 point favorite. So apparently Vegas felt like those teams were better than us. Vegas has made billions of dollars, so they what they are talking about.

 

Also, almost nobody gave us a chance to win at Baltimore on ESPN or the NFL Network. It was about 50/50 regarding Tennessee. Baltimore lost yesterday because they had 8 drop passes which was stressed heavily on Get UP this morning, Lamar had 3 passes for TD's that were dropped, clear drops. Baltimore is a playoff team easily. Tennessee was coming off a blowout win over Cincy, Tennessee isn't as good as they were a couple years ago but a team that is still above average at worse.

[Nickster]

4 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Last night she reported he would get multiple opinions no matter what. This isn’t new need news.

If you look at QB injuries most happen in the pocket. 

Pocket QBs don’t get the pounding running QBs do.

 

And so far I don’t believe any of Anthony’s injuries came in the pocket.  If it is true that most QBs injuries are in the pocket iits because the great super majority of the time is spent in the pocket.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, Nickster said:

Pocket QBs don’t get the pounding running QBs do.

 

And so far I don’t believe any of Anthony’s injuries came in the pocket.  If it is true that most QBs injuries are in the pocket iits because the great super majority of the time is spent in the pocket.

Go look at the injuries. I saw. Tweet last week and every one was a pocket QB.  It was a list of QB injuries. Not just pocket passsers.  Top five was all pocket passsers.

[GoColts8818]

 

[NFLfan]

4 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

If you look at QB injuries most happen in the pocket. 

 

I believe this is true. I had an analyst look into this and he found this to be true. This was a couple of years ago; so, I don't have the link. If you find it please post it. 

[AKB]

it is his throwing shoulder

 

here we go again

[ADnum1]

1 hour ago, NFLfan said:

 

If he tore the ligaments, he might need surgery, as that is his throwing shoulder. The ligaments should not be loose.

 

I have had shoulder injuries -- they are very painful. I wince as I think about them. But people recover from them. Richardson will too.

This is what I have heard too.

 

Most can just "pop" their shoulder right back in.  If they work desk jobs, they can get away with it.

 

But for a football player, if it is loose, it is more likely to "pop back out" again.

[2006Coltsbestever]

37 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Go look at the injuries. I saw. Tweet last week and every one was a pocket QB.  It was a list of QB injuries. Not just pocket passsers.  Top five was all pocket passsers.

Drew Brees is another one and he ended up a top 10 QB of all-time.

[NFLfan]

3 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

This is what I have heard too.

 

Most can just "pop" their shoulder right back in.  If they work desk jobs, they can get away with it.

 

But for a football player, if it is loose, it is more likely to "pop back out" again.

 

Yes, that's right. Athletes especially one that uses his arm to play cannot have loose ligaments. And that is his throwing shoulder.

 

It does not sound like Richardson had a dislocation (shoulder popping out). I may be wrong.

[NFLfan]

43 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Go look at the injuries. I saw. Tweet last week and every one was a pocket QB.  It was a list of QB injuries. Not just pocket passsers.  Top five was all pocket passsers.

 

I found an article but it is long. It goes in depth about injuries. The author is a doctor in physical therapy and he said shoulder injuries are the most prevalent. I did not realize that. Anyway, here is the article.

 

https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/mobile-quarterbacks-and-injury-rates#/

 

[horseshoecrabs]

I thought that with his size that he would be more durable but, you never know, it could be because of his lack of time playing in college, he was used to being a bull sort of speak and has not learned how to protect himself, how to fall or slide. I think that is and art in itself to survive in the NFL to stay heathy. I mean look at Brees, Brady, Peyton, and a lot of others that had long careers. I don't know if that is something that is instinct or can be taught. 

[chad72]

1 hour ago, Defjamz26 said:

Everyone here is obsessed with the idea of getting MHJ lol.

 

The draft is deep at WR. Odunze, Mitchell, Worthy all bring some to the table, IMO.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Listening to Kevin Bowens podcast. Dude is making so many dumb claims about this injury. I don’t think he realizes we could win and develop Richardson at same time. Now just complaining about Minshew winning games and ans hurting our draft stock. I got need for him we would be winning with Anthony too. 

[Yoshinator]

Don't see the point in watching anymore. While I acknowledged Minshew looked good yesterday, there's only two reasons to watch him for the next month or more if you're a fan. 1.) If you think he has a chance to be our starting QB one day over Richardson or 2.) You want to help win enough games with him to make the playoffs and that's all you're rooting for with him until Richardson returns later in the year. 

 

This goes back to the situation where now, instead of Richardson's development, the only thing I really care about is the win now with Minshew. There's other player development, but it'll be stunted because the offense won't be as explosive. The only selling point is if we win, it may help us make the playoffs down the road when we get Richardson back. 

 

Feel bad for Richardson, feel bad for Steichen and Ballard for having to put up with this garbage, bad luck. I feel bad for all the fans who paid good money to see these games that have to go through this again. I don't care if Minshew is a solid, high-end backup. What's the point in investing in watching 4 or more games with him as the starting QB when he's not the long-term starter, and he may not even be on this team past this year? The only reason to care is to win for the long-term. It's not good enough of a reason for me. 

 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Steichen should be talking to the media in about 15 minutes.

[krunk]

2 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Everyone here is obsessed with the idea of getting MHJ lol.

Hey I'm down with that now that you bring up that point. Tank For Harrison it is! 😂

[Old Colt]

6 hours ago, #12. said:

A month is good news.  It looked worse, honestly.

Look for him to be back after the bye week.....